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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #66 - 06/03/15 at 22:00:36
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kylemeister wrote on 06/01/15 at 17:41:57:
I notice that in a few of the previous games with 4. h3, Black responded in kind with 4...a6.


hmmm - interesting tit for tat.

But 4...d5 must surely be the principal move.
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #65 - 06/01/15 at 17:41:57
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I notice that in a few of the previous games with 4. h3, Black responded in kind with 4...a6.
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #64 - 06/01/15 at 15:46:20
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Fllg wrote on 05/31/15 at 07:43:46:
He was probably inspired by Tiger´s Modern Wink


No, its more of a useful waiting move, avoiding the 4.Bb5 Bd6 line. Knowing Jobava though, g4 is alwas an option for the future  Wink
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #63 - 05/31/15 at 07:43:46
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He was probably inspired by Tiger´s Modern Wink
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #62 - 05/30/15 at 23:49:12
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anybody see Jobava's new move:

1.b3 e5 2.Bb2 Nc6 3.e3 Nf6 4.h3!?

Seems like a very interesting new idea.
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #61 - 04/27/15 at 20:02:16
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RdC wrote on 04/26/15 at 15:42:27:
A slight surprise that there isn't a dedicated sub-forum on 1. b3.


I could add one if there was enough demand, or enough posts.
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #60 - 04/26/15 at 15:42:27
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A slight surprise that there isn't a dedicated sub-forum on 1. b3. Anyone looking for a mad opening should try Rapport - Adly from the World Team Championship.

After 1. b3 a5, what is White's best second move? Candidates include 2. Bb2, 2. a3, 2. a4 (unlikely) plus more recent tries of 2. c4 and 2. e4 as in the game in question. After 1. b3 a5 2. e4 a4, should White take and then 3. bxa4 Rxa4 4. Nc3, or play 3. b4 as was played by Rapport?

Here's the whole game

  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #59 - 08/26/14 at 18:40:21
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Odessky's book is a masterpiece, and he is also witty and can write which is a bonus.
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #58 - 08/26/14 at 01:31:34
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Your commentary is unfair to Odessky. I've read the book from cover to cover unlike you. Odessky is quite original. His book is the best one out there on the Nimzo Larsen Attack. Lakdawala's book pushes the boundaries a bit but the heart of the issue lies with Odessky.

Like you, I had trouble with Odessky's writing style but unlike you I persevered. I'm much better off for doing so and, like the author, I have a friend for life.
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #57 - 08/11/14 at 23:48:56
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Had the book for years. Finally got a chance to look at it while on vacation. Not a fan!  The book jumps around a lot and doesn't offer much in original thought.  The author isn't even convincing. (The whole section: where he states *this analysis is based on who I might of played in blitz online ... but I can't be sure its them.. bla bla etc etc  and "this opening is great for blitz only"  etc etc  was kinda of IMO "weak."   If you write a book, pump your reader up about the material. One can push the positives of an opening like this without sugar coating the negatives.  Offer an original thought at the very least.  I know a few people who use this opening in CC chess and it works fine (because there is a huge scope for original work... )  All he had to do was look into the CC side of the opening..   Just my 2 cents worth
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #56 - 06/08/14 at 00:38:00
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RoleyPoley wrote on 06/07/14 at 21:27:43:
I think its exactly because he doesnt sell it.

Dont know how the Lakdawala book stands up in comparison but that appears much more jovial.


I don't have either book (only the older one by Tait/Jacobs and a Dunnington (?) book which also covered 1.f4, 1.b4 and 1.g4), but having seen both authors' other work, Lakdawala is bound to be much more optimistic.

Anybody who's seen both care to comment on how well Lakdwala, with several years of theoretical progress on his side, solves the problems raised by Odessky?
  

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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #55 - 06/07/14 at 21:27:43
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Koji wrote on 06/07/14 at 21:08:19:
Why does this book receive so much praise (or any at all for that matter)? He doesn't sell the opening at all. Chapter 4 is pathetic - where he makes excuses that this is somehow a blitz/rapid opening (?? Jobava would beg to differ). Many (all?) of his chapters end on a pessimistic note where some Black idea is presented and no white plan to try and counter it; one would conclude not that the positions are equal (which a nimzo-larsen player would have made peace with) but that white is struggling for equality (???). Very uninspiring and not impressed by the quality of the analysis either.


I think its exactly because he doesnt sell it.

Dont know how the Lakdawala book stands up in comparison but that appears much more jovial.

Got to say, Jobova seems a pretty awesome player to watch out for...appears to play a lot of less fashionable openings and gets good results with them.
  

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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #54 - 06/07/14 at 21:08:19
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Why does this book receive so much praise (or any at all for that matter)? He doesn't sell the opening at all. Chapter 4 is pathetic - where he makes excuses that this is somehow a blitz/rapid opening (?? Jobava would beg to differ). Many (all?) of his chapters end on a pessimistic note where some Black idea is presented and no white plan to try and counter it; one would conclude not that the positions are equal (which a nimzo-larsen player would have made peace with) but that white is struggling for equality (???). Very uninspiring and not impressed by the quality of the analysis either.
  
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #53 - 10/18/11 at 03:38:10
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(Post removed:  Now I see where Odessky says he purposely made major changes to the move order of the actual game.  Well, he says it for Game 1, which is enough if you read the book only sequentially.
Odessky could/should have noted for the reader that his altered move order converges with the true gamescore moves starting with 8.. oo.

Game 1:  B.Larsen - L.Kavalek, 1970, Lugano (rd.10)

Odd that in Game 1 Odessky makes no annotation for  26.. rg8<f (+5.6), the one move that had a large Fritz eval spike --- spikes always mean a bad move.
After White unblocked the long dark diagonal a1-h8 with 26. Nd5<c3 (+1.3), better for Black is to reblock the diagonal with 26.. ne5<f3.
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Re: Play 1.b3! by Ilya Odessky
Reply #52 - 09/28/11 at 23:06:50
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Thank you Troilus, BPaulsen
  
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