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Re: Anand 11
Reply #11 - 07/26/08 at 15:30:52
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Yes I like 7..Qa5 too, it's most positionnal and is like a "true" Dragon where White played Bc4 and 0-0 and Black Qa5, which is not necessary the best move of the position but still respectable. Yes, it's hard to play for a win against the Maroczy, until White knows how to control the game (under master level, it's often possible to play ..b5 in good conditions, or use other typical tricks, or to get a favourable ending. But a 2700 should probably not play that as Black if he want to beat a 2500. But anyway there is many systems where it's not always easy to play for a win as Black if White is not "suicidal".
  
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Re: Anand 11
Reply #10 - 07/26/08 at 14:45:36
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ArKheiN wrote on 07/21/08 at 07:17:18:
An advantage for White against the Uogele? Impossible!


When I played the A.D. I preferred 7 ... Qa5, a move which leads to normal positions with a pleasant structure. The Uogole is of course also playable but it leads to more messy positions. Perhaps it's just a matter of taste what line you choose for Black.

What puts me off the A.D. is that it's almost impossible for Black to play for a win after 5. c4

  
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Re: Anand 11
Reply #9 - 07/26/08 at 08:57:08
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Unless you present me a clear +/= or more in the Gurgenidze (of course I don't say that's impossible), I will continue to think it's equal with best play, after all, Black's play is based on sound positionnal principes, good development and chance for counterplay, and no structural weakness.

The Uogele is different, because if that's survive, it's mostly tacticaly in the lines with f3, and positionnally if White play 0-0 and Black play without ..a4. But from what I know at the moment, it seems to survive with an about equal position (but OTB White may have a practical +/= advantage that finish as = with good Black play).

About Shirov - Georgiev, maybe the game just proved that Shirov was stronger than Georgiev (even the ELO say that).

Anyway I prefer 9..d6 first to force a 10.f3 or h3 (White will play f4 soon), no Th3 anymore in both lines Smiley, and with the weakening of the g1-a7 diagonal, Black can often force a queen exchange with Qb6 against Qd4. The advantage of 9..Nxd4 instead of d6 is to avoid White's Nb5 as 9..d6 10.Nb5 but after b6 followed by Ba6, Nd7-c5, I believe Black's position is pretty solid. The lines with a4 for Black may be playable but it's quite dangerous.
  
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Re: Anand 11
Reply #8 - 07/24/08 at 17:55:47
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are u sure that White has no advantage against the Gurgenidze?


are u sure that White has no advantage against the Uogele?
Shirov-Georgiev K. 2002
  
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Re: Anand 11
Reply #7 - 07/21/08 at 07:17:18
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An advantage for White with the bind against the Gurgenidze? Impossible!

An advantage for White against the Uogele? Impossible!

Accelerated dragon = draw "by force" Smiley
  
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Re: Anand 11
Reply #6 - 07/20/08 at 16:41:27
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So have they succeeded in finally refuting the dragon forever and ever amen.

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Re: Anand 11
Reply #5 - 07/20/08 at 16:26:09
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I have a better idea.

Why dont El Khalif realse a book about Accelerated Dragon since they are covering both critial lines (Bind and Bc4 yugoslav like) in Anand and Kramnik series?
  
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Anand 11and Kramnik 3
Reply #4 - 07/20/08 at 14:03:05
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A funny thing because in the Accelereted Dragon the moveorder in Kramnik 3 was 1.Nf3 c5 2.c4 g6 3.e4 Sc6 4.d4 cd 5.Nd4 Nf6 6.Nc3. So if the updated Kramnik 3 will use the same moveorder it would be clear that Chalifman and his team are working night and day for 1.e4 and 1.Sf3 players  Wink.      
  

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Re: Anand 11
Reply #3 - 07/20/08 at 10:54:29
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About the Bind, when I played it as black i did not like my position and when I played it as white i didnt like my position either Smiley (but was much more fun being white).

I have heard player say that the Bind is not what it used to be.

The Bc4 yugoslav like variation is regulary played by Karjakin. See for example Karjakin-Ivanchuk 2007 that transposed to regular Dragon.
  
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Re: Anand 11
Reply #2 - 07/19/08 at 16:52:24
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What? No Maroczy Bind against the Accelerated!! I say I'm baffled!
If this repertoire catches on I will start playing the Acc. Dragon again!
  
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Re: Anand 11
Reply #1 - 07/19/08 at 11:41:48
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http://www.chess-stars.com/graphics/eshop/books_special/A11.pdf

I am looking forward to this book since El Khalif recommends Bc4 yugoslav (early Bb3 line) against normal Dragon and Bc4 yugoslav like agianst accelerated.
  
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Anand 11
07/18/08 at 23:17:02
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Just found details of Anand 11 on the Chess-Stars website
www.chess-stars.com
  
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