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Re: Benko question for white
Reply #12 - 08/18/08 at 04:19:23
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Thanks everyone who replied...  I am also wondering what people think of 4.f3, yes 4.f3 not 5.f3.  4.f3 is feachered in attacking with 1.d4 by Dunnington.  What do people think??
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Re: Benko question for white
Reply #11 - 08/18/08 at 02:10:04
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I quite like 4.Nf3, not fearing the Blumenfeld (e6) and hoping for g6 5.cxb5 a6 6.Nc3 axb5 7.e4 b4 8.Nc3.

TonyRo wrote on 08/16/08 at 01:23:33:
I have always preferred 7..d6 8.Bf4 g5 9. Be3! Nxe4 10. Bd3 Nf6 11. Bxg5 Bg7 12. Ne2, when it's a pretty decent sized mess.


Probably better 9...Bg7.
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Re: Benko question for white
Reply #10 - 08/17/08 at 23:51:15
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saubhikr wrote on 08/17/08 at 12:32:02:
I agree. If black knows the variation in advance, white is at best equal.




If Black is playing the Benko and does not know the current line against the Zaitsev he probably has good chance of getting diced.  But, its such a forcing line and easy to remember that I won't venture it as White.

Recently I've been toying with the 4.Qc2 (declined) lines, which seem underexamined and remain fertile ground for original & (possibly) creative play.
  
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Re: Benko question for white
Reply #9 - 08/17/08 at 12:32:02
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I agree. If black knows the variation in advance, white is at best equal.
  
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TonyRo wrote on 08/15/08 at 21:08:23:
Really? I would think that most Benko players would relish being able to play typical plans and put their pieces on familiar squares and just grind away. It surprises me, since a lot of times in the Zaitsev the positions look nothing like a Benko! I looked at it a little bit when I played 1. d4, and I never thought White was worse in any lines. What's your preferred response after 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cb a6 5. Nc3 ab 6. e4 b4 7. Nb5?


Shhhhh....

The Zaitsev is busted and is good for Black as White does not even equalize in main line..
  
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Re: Benko question for white
Reply #7 - 08/16/08 at 01:23:33
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I have always preferred 7..d6 8.Bf4 g5 9. Be3! Nxe4 10. Bd3 Nf6 11. Bxg5 Bg7 12. Ne2, when it's a pretty decent sized mess.
  
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Re: Benko question for white
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TonyRo wrote on 08/15/08 at 21:08:23:
Really? I would think that most Benko players would relish being able to play typical plans and put their pieces on familiar squares and just grind away. It surprises me, since a lot of times in the Zaitsev the positions look nothing like a Benko! I looked at it a little bit when I played 1. d4, and I never thought White was worse in any lines. What's your preferred response after 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cb a6 5. Nc3 ab 6. e4 b4 7. Nb5?


I used to play this as White eons ago.  But was put off by 7..d6 8.Bf4 g5 9.Bxg5 Nxe4 10.Bf4 Qa5.  Also, I wasn't sure what was happening after 10..Bg7 11.Qe2 Nf6 12.Nxd6 Kf8 13.Nxc8 Qxc8.  Have there been any developments in these lines? 
  
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Re: Benko question for white
Reply #5 - 08/15/08 at 21:15:03
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Zatara wrote on 08/14/08 at 02:51:03:
Hi all,
wich is sharper and has better reputation; 5.F3 OR 5.B6. 
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This is an easy one.  5.f3 is sharper.  5.b6 has a better reputation.
  
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Re: Benko question for white
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Really? I would think that most Benko players would relish being able to play typical plans and put their pieces on familiar squares and just grind away. It surprises me, since a lot of times in the Zaitsev the positions look nothing like a Benko! I looked at it a little bit when I played 1. d4, and I never thought White was worse in any lines. What's your preferred response after 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cb a6 5. Nc3 ab 6. e4 b4 7. Nb5?
  
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Re: Benko question for white
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TonyRo wrote on 08/14/08 at 21:00:38:
If you are looking for a sharp system against the Benko, why not give the Zaitsev a whirl? That's about as sharp and as un-Benko-ish the Benko can get. Cheesy



As a Benkoist, I relish seeing the Zaitsev.
  
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Re: Benko question for white
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If you are looking for a sharp system against the Benko, why not give the Zaitsev a whirl? That's about as sharp and as un-Benko-ish the Benko can get. Cheesy
  
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Re: Benko question for white
Reply #1 - 08/14/08 at 18:15:40
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Bit of an aimless question.  Play through some grandmaster games in both and see what kinds of themes and ideas come up and what you like or dislike.  Ask yourself why White would play either move—what s/he is playing for—and whether you are more sympathetic to one plan or the other...
  
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Benko question for white
08/14/08 at 02:51:03
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Hi all,
wich is sharper and has better reputation; 5.F3 OR 5.B6. 
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