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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Correspondenc chess national associations. Reply #6 - 08/29/08 at 15:48:16	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 08/29/08 at 15:31:11: flaviddude wrote on 08/29/08 at 01:25:15: In Australia, where I live membership of the national body has fallen 60% over the past 10 years. I suspect that this is the case in other countries. Dutch NBC has had a decline of slightly more than 50 % - almost 1300 members in 1990, slightly more than 600 in 2000. Since then it has been growing very slowly. What do you think a high price, Markovic? Subscribing for NBC costs 35 Euro a year, playing a tournament an additional 7 Euro for H-groups and 10 for M-groups. As far as I know nothing prevents you from becoming a member of the Mexican, Canadian or even the Dutch federation, except practical reasons. The NBC has 20-30 members abroad, dispersed over the whole world. What these national federations do is organise national events and compose teams for events like the Olympiad. Well I just payed $57 to sign up for an ICCF qualifying tournament -- one in which an IM norm is possible. I was told that $17 went bact to the US CC federation. What it will be used for there I can only guess. Paying the rent for an empty office?

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trw YaBB Moderator Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1414 Joined: 05/06/08 Gender:	Re: Correspondenc chess national associations. Reply #5 - 08/29/08 at 15:47:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	Markovich wrote on 08/29/08 at 12:43:30: I don't care a fig about the U.S. CC bodies. I wish the ICCF would abandon its federal structure and declare itself to be purely and simply a world body. Prices are high to play in ICCF -- prohibitive indeed to many casual players -- and one of the reasons is that it has to kick back a big share to everyone's national federation. And what exactly do these national federations do? What are they except little clubs of CC chess politicians? Time was you could not even get registered for ICCF without getting Max everlasting Zavanelli to sign you up. At least that has changed. I understand you can tell from an IP address what country the server is in. Use that, plus registration by postal address, to ascertin who plays for which nation. I understood why national federations were necessary when CC was played on postcards, but they seem unnecessary now. You hit hte nail on the head! I can't play for my national federation or ICCF because it costs as much as my month paycheck. So I use all the free correspondence sites FICGS, IECG, redhotpawn.


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10778 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Correspondenc chess national associations. Reply #4 - 08/29/08 at 15:31:11	Post Tools	Print Post
	flaviddude wrote on 08/29/08 at 01:25:15: In Australia, where I live membership of the national body has fallen 60% over the past 10 years. I suspect that this is the case in other countries. Dutch NBC has had a decline of slightly more than 50 % - almost 1300 members in 1990, slightly more than 600 in 2000. Since then it has been growing very slowly. What do you think a high price, Markovic? Subscribing for NBC costs 35 Euro a year, playing a tournament an additional 7 Euro for H-groups and 10 for M-groups. As far as I know nothing prevents you from becoming a member of the Mexican, Canadian or even the Dutch federation, except practical reasons. The NBC has 20-30 members abroad, dispersed over the whole world. What these national federations do is organise national events and compose teams for events like the Olympiad.

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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Correspondenc chess national associations. Reply #3 - 08/29/08 at 12:43:30	Post Tools	Print Post
	I don't care a fig about the U.S. CC bodies. I wish the ICCF would abandon its federal structure and declare itself to be purely and simply a world body. Prices are high to play in ICCF -- prohibitive indeed to many casual players -- and one of the reasons is that it has to kick back a big share to everyone's national federation. And what exactly do these national federations do? What are they except little clubs of CC chess politicians? Time was you could not even get registered for ICCF without getting Max everlasting Zavanelli to sign you up. At least that has changed. I understand you can tell from an IP address what country the server is in. Use that, plus registration by postal address, to ascertin who plays for which nation. I understood why national federations were necessary when CC was played on postcards, but they seem unnecessary now.

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HgMan God Member Offline Demand me nothing: What you know, you know Posts: 2330 Location: Up on Cripple Creek Joined: 11/09/04 Gender:	Re: Correspondenc chess national associations. Reply #2 - 08/29/08 at 11:58:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	60% is remarkable attrition. I'm sure the Canadian Correspondence Chess Association is smaller than when I started 10+ years ago, but I doubt it can be that small. The CCCA has introduced a new women's national championship, and will offer a junior national championship next year as ways of recruiting new players.

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flaviddude Senior Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 329 Location: Australia Joined: 01/12/04 Gender:	Re: Correspondenc chess national associations. Reply #1 - 08/29/08 at 02:36:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	This is very strange. I made the previous posting on Chess Publishing.com and planned to put a posting on this site. Before I could do so it has already been done complete with typos.

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flaviddude Senior Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 329 Location: Australia Joined: 01/12/04 Gender:	Correspondenc chess national associations. 08/29/08 at 01:25:15	Post Tools	Print Post
	one of the impacts of the internet is that there has been an explosion of chess players playing on-line at speeds ranging from bullet to correspondence chess speeds (For example ten moves in fifty days). The International Correspondence Chess Federation is the official body organizing the World Championship,running tournaments, awarding titles, maintaining rating lists etc. National Correspondence organizations affiliate to ICCF. What they do varies from country to country but typically they will run domestic championships and other tournaments, organiz entries to international individual and teams tournaments and often publish magazines. In Australia, where I live membership of the national body has fallen 60% over the past 10 years. I suspect that this is the case in other countries. I personally am probably a correspondence specialist. My correspondence rating is far higher than my over the board ratings so i probably care more about correspondence chess more than most people. So I suggest to all members of this forum that you consider joining your national corrspondence chess assocoiation. I also suggest to any over the board Grandmasters reading this posting that you regularly download games from the ICCF and IECG websites. Also obtain Tim harding's latest DVD of correspondence chess games. This has got to help you outplay your opponents in the openings.

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