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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #31 - 10/17/08 at 00:53:08
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TopNotch wrote on 10/17/08 at 00:37:38:
Curiously, the problem is often not the ability to see our own tactical possibilities, but rather an inabilty to fully appreciate, spot and anticipate those of our opponents.  


And do you know a remedy for this? It certainly applies to me.
  

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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #30 - 10/17/08 at 00:37:38
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smrex13 wrote on 08/30/08 at 02:29:20:
Hey Everyone,

Well, after five+ years of playing the French (and Caro now and then), I decided to really commit to  1...e5.  I've gotten some good advice from all of you, but in the last two months my rating vs. 1.e4 has dropped 650 points and my rating vs. 1.d4 is down 500 points.  I'm now playing (and getting trashed) by beginners.  I'm sure that my chess development requires that I master these symmetrical openings, but I've lost all interest in chess.  Even when I go back to my favored French, I get destroyed (10 losses last night against the exchange!?).  I don't know if any of you have faced08/30/08 at 02:29:03 this kind of dilemma.  When I first started to play chess I could tell that 1.e4 e5 was incomprehensible.   The complications were beyond my understanding, and that's still the case. But I really feel that I should be able to play these positions to have a strong understanding of chess.  I'm really getting frustrated by losses against lines like 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 and 1.e4 e5 2.a3, etc.  I really don't know how to improve. I'm getting destroyed by horrific white openings.  Can any of you relate?  I've always been reasonably proficient at new hobbies, but I'm being humiliated by chess (which is why I want so badly to improve).

Please help!!
Scott


Without seeing any of your games I would go out on a limb here and say that you are probably more comfortable and better at playing the closed positions that occur most often in the French than the cut and the thrust Open positions that arise regularly after 1.e4 e5.

The solution here in part is to avoid the temptation to memorise a whole set of Opening book lines, such an approach is almost certainly doomed to fail for someone that has played mostly closed positions all their life.

Your first task is to master the principles, techniques and thought process that govern how you conduct your play and thinking in an Open game.

Define in words the meaning of INITIATIVE in chess without googling it.

Then define the terms Sacrifice and Gambit once again as it relates to chess.

If you can define the above chess terms accurately without googling them, then you have attained the first step of better undertstanding the enemy and by extension a better idea of what skills will need to be developed to fight successfully in 1e4 e5 Open games.

That's enough guidance for now, but suffice it to say it is my firm belief that one should study and master Open games first before tackling seriously any other type of position. The reason being that understanding dynamics and tactics are a fundamental and indispensible part of winning chess and it is a skill that must be honed from the time we are beginners to the point where it almost becomes intuitive. More than any other single aspect, the longer one puts off developing this part of their game, the harder it becomes to improve significantly, especially as we get older. Curiously, the problem is often not the ability to see our own tactical possibilities, but rather an inabilty to fully appreciate, spot and anticipate those of our opponents.  

To be continued.

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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #29 - 10/16/08 at 12:39:18
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Yes, 1...e5 ruined your chess career, it's so obvious!!!
What a stupid opening!! OMG!!!!! We should kill it!!!! COME ON GUYS!!!!!!!
  

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Reply #28 - 09/05/08 at 16:27:47
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CheckMate wrote on 09/05/08 at 14:30:07:
Markovich wrote on 09/05/08 at 12:49:41:
I wouldn't criticise anyone's playing 1...e6 on the basis of the miniscule theoretical superiority of 1...e5 (if indeed one exists). 


Neither would I! But neither would I criticize anyone for playing 4. d3 or 4. Qe2 against the Berlin Defense despite the miniscule theoretical superiority of 4. 0-0 (if indeed one exists). The Berlin endgame is a real pain-in-the-ass for White, it's feels like playing the Exchange Variation.




Your pointed reply made me wish that I had not deleted a paragraph from my post, thinking that it went too far afield. My deleted point was that White is playing with a much better hand than Black, and doesn't need to weasel for chances. Therefore I think White's cost in playing viable-but-suboptimal systems is potentially much greater than Black's cost in doing so.

I will concede however that if someone has a particular understanding of a given system, it may be a good idea to play it even if it's widely considered suboptimal.  I like to play the 4 Pawns Attack, for example.

In any case, were way deep in chess meta-theory here, which is of questionable relevance to anything.
  

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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #27 - 09/05/08 at 14:30:07
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Markovich wrote on 09/05/08 at 12:49:41:
I wouldn't criticise anyone's playing 1...e6 on the basis of the miniscule theoretical superiority of 1...e5 (if indeed one exists). 


Neither would I! But neither would I criticize anyone for playing 4. d3 or 4. Qe2 against the Berlin Defense despite the miniscule theoretical superiority of 4. 0-0 (if indeed one exists). The Berlin endgame is a real pain-in-the-ass for White, it's feels like playing the Exchange Variation.


  
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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #26 - 09/05/08 at 12:49:41
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Willempie wrote on 09/05/08 at 08:02:01:
CheckMate wrote on 09/04/08 at 15:00:15:
What do you guys actually mean with "sub optimal"? It's generally thought that the French Defense is slightly worse than 1 ... e5 and 1 ... c5. Does that really mean that the French is a "sub optimal" opening?


You make sub-optimal use of the e-pawn. It could have moved 2 squares Wink


I rather suspect Willampie is pulling your leg.

I wouldn't criticise anyone's playing 1...e6 on the basis of the miniscule theoretical superiority of 1...e5 (if indeed one exists).  There are reasons why somebody might want to play 1...e6, notwithstanding that.  Particularly as Black, one has to find ways to overcome the opponent, and for any given player, certain systems might be better adapted to that.

As most here will know, I do advocate exclusive use of 1...e5 for young and improving players, but that is another issue entirely.
  

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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #25 - 09/05/08 at 08:02:01
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CheckMate wrote on 09/04/08 at 15:00:15:
What do you guys actually mean with "sub optimal"? It's generally thought that the French Defense is slightly worse than 1 ... e5 and 1 ... c5. Does that really mean that the French is a "sub optimal" opening?


You make sub-optimal use of the e-pawn. It could have moved 2 squares Wink
  

If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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What do you guys actually mean with "sub optimal"? It's generally thought that the French Defense is slightly worse than 1 ... e5 and 1 ... c5. Does that really mean that the French is a "sub optimal" opening?

  
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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #23 - 09/03/08 at 20:15:16
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Markovich wrote on 09/01/08 at 13:58:24:
MNb wrote on 09/01/08 at 12:05:44:
Thanks.  Grin I already thought you were too smart not to know about the meaning of decimals. Me not being American I have never seen that advertisement. Neither did I know who MC was.


In the old radio ads (I can remember them as far back as the early 1950s), it was always, "ninety-nine and fourty-four one-hundredths."  This "99.44%" stuff is very modern, and faintly un-American.  I don't think Ivory is advertised with this tag any more, is it?  "Ninety-nine and fourty-four one-hundreths" is a nostalgic reference, and not very common anymore.  




I admire your knowledge of the arcane.  I believe you are wholly correct.  In particluar, the suggestion that the modern use
of "percentage" is un-American is one of the funniest things I've read.

I salute the nuance and layering of your humour, sir.  Smiley


1. ....e5 or die!
  

I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.
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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #22 - 09/01/08 at 13:58:24
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MNb wrote on 09/01/08 at 12:05:44:
Thanks.  Grin I already thought you were too smart not to know about the meaning of decimals. Me not being American I have never seen that advertisement. Neither did I know who MC was.


In the old radio ads (I can remember them as far back as the early 1950s), it was always, "ninety-nine and fourty-four one-hundredths."  This "99.44%" stuff is very modern, and faintly un-American.  I don't think Ivory is advertised with this tag any more, is it?  "Ninety-nine and fourty-four one-hundreths" is a nostalgic reference, and not very common anymore. 

  

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Reply #21 - 09/01/08 at 12:05:44
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Thanks.  Grin I already thought you were too smart not to know about the meaning of decimals. Me not being American I have never seen that advertisement. Neither did I know who MC was.
  

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Reply #20 - 09/01/08 at 11:56:54
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MNb wrote on 09/01/08 at 10:45:17:
drkodos wrote on 08/30/08 at 19:53:32:
LeeRoth wrote on 08/30/08 at 16:05:49:
With 1..e5, the goal is to equalize first, then to look for active play.


I believe this is 98.44% true.


Why not 98,43% ?



Because Ivory soap is 99.44% pure.  It's a self absorbed American advertising reference. 

Ivory soap was proud of its cleaning powers and hired a beautiful spokeswoman to pitch their product.  Only later find out she also starred in pornographic films.  Her name:  Marilyn Chambers.

Her film:  Behind the Green Door.

They billed her as the "99.44% pure girl."

Their tag:  For more than 125 years, Ivory has been bringing timeless values like good, clean fun to American families. A familiar and trusted part of our past, today’s Ivory now brings you everything from baby smooth skin in the bath to pure cleansers for the kitchen and laundry. The same promise of purity and mildness that made Ivory the right choice for your grandmother’s mother still makes Ivory best for your entire family.

So I lessened it by 1 percent to account for modern times.  Cheesy


You asked!   Grin
  

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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #19 - 09/01/08 at 10:45:17
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drkodos wrote on 08/30/08 at 19:53:32:
LeeRoth wrote on 08/30/08 at 16:05:49:
With 1..e5, the goal is to equalize first, then to look for active play.


I believe this is 98.44% true.


Why not 98,43% ?
  

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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #18 - 09/01/08 at 04:44:44
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drkodos wrote on 08/30/08 at 19:53:32:
LeeRoth wrote on 08/30/08 at 16:05:49:
With 1..e5, the goal is to equalize first, then to look for active play.



I believe this is 98.44% true.

Of course there are specific exceptions, but as a general template, this philosophy will minimize loses.



in all e4 e5 openings sharp options are avaible so I don't agree. At my level (1700) most opponents will look at you like you just shot their dog when you play b5 in the two knights.

For me e4 e5 is about matching your opponent blow for blow.
  
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Re: 1...e5 has destroyed my chess career
Reply #17 - 09/01/08 at 01:23:50
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Is the Petroff an option?  Open lines and center, plenty of games to study, and enough sidelines for patzers like me to root around in for fun.  I started with it as a way to ease into 1..e5, and have found it a refreshing change of pace from the 2..Nf6 Scandinavian (which I still play as well).
  
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