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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #35 - 02/06/10 at 17:44:32
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boki wrote on 02/05/10 at 10:44:52:
Sorry Embarrassed

Doan worry.  It's not as if there aren't dozens of similarly offtopic posts upthread.  But he's right, we've tried to transfer all our arguments about "advertising" to that other thread.
  

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Reply #34 - 02/05/10 at 10:44:52
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #33 - 02/05/10 at 09:18:14
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boki nice to know your opinion but post it over here where the topic is being discussed, so I might have chance to reply  Wink:

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1265220818
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #32 - 02/04/10 at 11:00:12
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For me most of such post " xxx wil publish a new book on yyy opening" are quite interesting. I ´think many of us are interested in new (opening) chess books, so it is just nice to know that something will/ has been published.
I would miss such posts and it would be in my opinion unnecessary censorship Angry
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #31 - 02/03/10 at 23:37:11
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Markovich wrote on 02/03/10 at 17:58:12:
May I respectfully suggest that any further advocacy on the question of advertising should be posted under "Chess Publishing General, Discussion?"

Yes, this seems like a good idea, to what extent are such posts useful or simply advertising? Maybe we should try to decide this question once and for all?
Maybe the moderator should splice these last few posts? Undecided
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #30 - 02/03/10 at 18:19:00
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 02/03/10 at 18:06:36:

Markovich's suggestion is excellent! Shall we adjourn to the General chat section?


No, not "Other, General Chess," but "Chess Publishing, General," which concerns policies and procedures here.
  

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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #29 - 02/03/10 at 18:06:36
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TonyRo wrote on 02/03/10 at 15:47:36:
This raging against advertising has got to stop in my opinion. It's one thing to stop people from posting Viagra advertisements on this forum, but to make people aware of a new book by posting the publisher's blurb seems completely fine to me. It's only a matter of time before someone goes, "Hey, I heard this new book by Joe Chesswriter is coming out soon! What's the deal with it?" and then someone is going to post the blurb or post a link anyway. Is it advertising then?

This is a forum for chess information, and a lot of it focuses on books. There has to be exceptions, and it seems to me that these advertisements are more helpful than hurtful. Relax a bit around here. If you have a problem with it message Tony or a mod - cut the rudeness.


I agree wholeheartedly.  One of the reasons I like the Chess Publishing forum is that it encouarages those who write, read and publish chess-related material to share their work.  Tony (Kosten, not Ro) has alread made clear that he will allow this (in relation to a book on the Dutch).

This should be a non-issue since the owner of the site has clarified what is allowed.  But if there are any doubts, please refer to the title of the site!

Note, Markovich wrote while I was posting my response.


Markovich's suggestion is excellent! Shall we adjourn to the General chat section?
  
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Reply #28 - 02/03/10 at 17:58:12
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May I respectfully suggest that any further advocacy on the question of advertising should be posted under "Chess Publishing General, Discussion?"
  

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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #27 - 02/03/10 at 16:57:54
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Actually I did think you wanted advertising allowed when your first sentence was "This raging against advertising has got to stop in my opinion". But you are right - how to distinguish what is blatant advertising and what is not is very subjective. In my view a post which adds no personal views and simply provides a link to another website with a copy and paste of the publishers blurb is advertising, others are entitled to think differently, and in the case of the QGD post the moderator did!
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #26 - 02/03/10 at 16:20:59
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I'm not proposing to allow all advertising, as I'm sure you can interpret from my post above. My point is that it was made by a poster who's got nearly 100 posts (some less given it was a while ago), not someone who has 3 who clearly has alterior motives. There's a distinct difference in intent, and in my opinion, if he's just looking to provide an announcement and book suggestion to the forum, then it's not advertising. You never answered where you draw the line with this in my last post, and it's still not clear.

If I started a post to discuss the new Attacking Chess titles coming out by Everyman, and posted the blurbs to inform people what they were about, would that be advertising, given that I clearly have no affiliation with them, and that I just wanted to stimulate discussion and provide information?
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #25 - 02/03/10 at 15:54:27
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If its offensive to me then I´ve no problem being "rude" as you say - I think its more important to eliminate this practice than to hurt someones feelings. The other day the moderator wanted to cut a perfectly legitimate thread (in my view) on the Dutch and I stood up for it as I didnt regard it as advertising, so its not like I'm in favour of censorship! I think the rules are fairly clear now - if someone says lets just allow all advertising and everyone to do as they like then thats another story...
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #24 - 02/03/10 at 15:47:36
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This raging against advertising has got to stop in my opinion. It's one thing to stop people from posting Viagra advertisements on this forum, but to make people aware of a new book by posting the publisher's blurb seems completely fine to me. It's only a matter of time before someone goes, "Hey, I heard this new book by Joe Chesswriter is coming out soon! What's the deal with it?" and then someone is going to post the blurb or post a link anyway. Is it advertising then?

This is a forum for chess information, and a lot of it focuses on books. There has to be exceptions, and it seems to me that these advertisements are more helpful than hurtful. Relax a bit around here. If you have a problem with it message Tony or a mod - cut the rudeness.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #23 - 02/03/10 at 15:46:01
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Good point  Undecided Although the wider picture would be to eliminate these type of posts.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #22 - 02/03/10 at 15:42:45
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I understand, I just meant he said it back in 2008 and it had been languishing on page 8 of this forum until you brought it back to the front by yelling at him.  If he is trying to advertise the book and bring it to everyone's attention, you are just doing his job for him.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #21 - 02/03/10 at 15:35:22
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what does it matter when he wrote it? He shouldnt be doing it! This is actually a follow-up to a more recent post in the QGD where the same poster has something similar. It could be he has no relationship with Everyman, in which case he is just inadvertently doing their advertising for them, or that he does have a relationship with Everyman which is even worse of course.
  
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