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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #35 - 02/06/10 at 17:44:32
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boki wrote on 02/05/10 at 10:44:52:
Sorry Embarrassed

Doan worry.  It's not as if there aren't dozens of similarly offtopic posts upthread.  But he's right, we've tried to transfer all our arguments about "advertising" to that other thread.
  

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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #33 - 02/05/10 at 09:18:14
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boki nice to know your opinion but post it over here where the topic is being discussed, so I might have chance to reply  Wink:

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1265220818
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #32 - 02/04/10 at 11:00:12
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For me most of such post " xxx wil publish a new book on yyy opening" are quite interesting. I ´think many of us are interested in new (opening) chess books, so it is just nice to know that something will/ has been published.
I would miss such posts and it would be in my opinion unnecessary censorship Angry
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #31 - 02/03/10 at 23:37:11
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Markovich wrote on 02/03/10 at 17:58:12:
May I respectfully suggest that any further advocacy on the question of advertising should be posted under "Chess Publishing General, Discussion?"

Yes, this seems like a good idea, to what extent are such posts useful or simply advertising? Maybe we should try to decide this question once and for all?
Maybe the moderator should splice these last few posts? Undecided
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #30 - 02/03/10 at 18:19:00
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 02/03/10 at 18:06:36:

Markovich's suggestion is excellent! Shall we adjourn to the General chat section?


No, not "Other, General Chess," but "Chess Publishing, General," which concerns policies and procedures here.
  

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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #29 - 02/03/10 at 18:06:36
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TonyRo wrote on 02/03/10 at 15:47:36:
This raging against advertising has got to stop in my opinion. It's one thing to stop people from posting Viagra advertisements on this forum, but to make people aware of a new book by posting the publisher's blurb seems completely fine to me. It's only a matter of time before someone goes, "Hey, I heard this new book by Joe Chesswriter is coming out soon! What's the deal with it?" and then someone is going to post the blurb or post a link anyway. Is it advertising then?

This is a forum for chess information, and a lot of it focuses on books. There has to be exceptions, and it seems to me that these advertisements are more helpful than hurtful. Relax a bit around here. If you have a problem with it message Tony or a mod - cut the rudeness.


I agree wholeheartedly.  One of the reasons I like the Chess Publishing forum is that it encouarages those who write, read and publish chess-related material to share their work.  Tony (Kosten, not Ro) has alread made clear that he will allow this (in relation to a book on the Dutch).

This should be a non-issue since the owner of the site has clarified what is allowed.  But if there are any doubts, please refer to the title of the site!

Note, Markovich wrote while I was posting my response.


Markovich's suggestion is excellent! Shall we adjourn to the General chat section?
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #28 - 02/03/10 at 17:58:12
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May I respectfully suggest that any further advocacy on the question of advertising should be posted under "Chess Publishing General, Discussion?"
  

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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #27 - 02/03/10 at 16:57:54
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Actually I did think you wanted advertising allowed when your first sentence was "This raging against advertising has got to stop in my opinion". But you are right - how to distinguish what is blatant advertising and what is not is very subjective. In my view a post which adds no personal views and simply provides a link to another website with a copy and paste of the publishers blurb is advertising, others are entitled to think differently, and in the case of the QGD post the moderator did!
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #26 - 02/03/10 at 16:20:59
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I'm not proposing to allow all advertising, as I'm sure you can interpret from my post above. My point is that it was made by a poster who's got nearly 100 posts (some less given it was a while ago), not someone who has 3 who clearly has alterior motives. There's a distinct difference in intent, and in my opinion, if he's just looking to provide an announcement and book suggestion to the forum, then it's not advertising. You never answered where you draw the line with this in my last post, and it's still not clear.

If I started a post to discuss the new Attacking Chess titles coming out by Everyman, and posted the blurbs to inform people what they were about, would that be advertising, given that I clearly have no affiliation with them, and that I just wanted to stimulate discussion and provide information?
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #25 - 02/03/10 at 15:54:27
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If its offensive to me then I´ve no problem being "rude" as you say - I think its more important to eliminate this practice than to hurt someones feelings. The other day the moderator wanted to cut a perfectly legitimate thread (in my view) on the Dutch and I stood up for it as I didnt regard it as advertising, so its not like I'm in favour of censorship! I think the rules are fairly clear now - if someone says lets just allow all advertising and everyone to do as they like then thats another story...
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #24 - 02/03/10 at 15:47:36
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This raging against advertising has got to stop in my opinion. It's one thing to stop people from posting Viagra advertisements on this forum, but to make people aware of a new book by posting the publisher's blurb seems completely fine to me. It's only a matter of time before someone goes, "Hey, I heard this new book by Joe Chesswriter is coming out soon! What's the deal with it?" and then someone is going to post the blurb or post a link anyway. Is it advertising then?

This is a forum for chess information, and a lot of it focuses on books. There has to be exceptions, and it seems to me that these advertisements are more helpful than hurtful. Relax a bit around here. If you have a problem with it message Tony or a mod - cut the rudeness.
  
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Reply #23 - 02/03/10 at 15:46:01
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Good point  Undecided Although the wider picture would be to eliminate these type of posts.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #22 - 02/03/10 at 15:42:45
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I understand, I just meant he said it back in 2008 and it had been languishing on page 8 of this forum until you brought it back to the front by yelling at him.  If he is trying to advertise the book and bring it to everyone's attention, you are just doing his job for him.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #21 - 02/03/10 at 15:35:22
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what does it matter when he wrote it? He shouldnt be doing it! This is actually a follow-up to a more recent post in the QGD where the same poster has something similar. It could be he has no relationship with Everyman, in which case he is just inadvertently doing their advertising for them, or that he does have a relationship with Everyman which is even worse of course.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #20 - 02/03/10 at 13:54:41
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He wrote that 15 months ago, you know.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #19 - 02/03/10 at 11:25:14
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notyetagm wrote on 09/24/08 at 20:29:17:
An upcoming book by EVERYMAN CHESS is just what you need. Smiley

http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=491

This book looks stupendous! It is exactly what I need, as I am actually stupid enough to follow McDonald's recommendation in Starting Out: 1 e4! and play the Open Siclian.

Seven Ways to Smash the Sicilian
Yury Lapshun Nick Conticello

One of the main reasons the Sicilian is the most popular opening is that is it promotes such bold and aggressive chess. But as White it's not enough just to attack; you must do so in the right way, using the appropriate weapons. In this book Yury Lapshun and Nick Conticello introduce, categorize and analyse the 'Seven Deadly Sacrifices' White has at his disposal. It's impossible to play Open Sicilian positions with either colour without an intimate knowledge of these sacrifices, and by using illustrative games the authors teach you everything you need to know, including the vital skill of how to recognize when favourable sacrificial conditions arise.

*The ultimate guide to Sicilian bashing

*Covers main lines of the Sicilian

*Includes a feast of entertaining games and violent sacrifices

Published June 2009 EU, July 2009 US | ISBN 9781857445954
Format Paperback, 192 pages


This post is almost identical to another one you made elsewhere:

notyetagm wrote on 07/22/08 at 21:11:22:
http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=491

This book looks stupendous! It is exactly what I need, as I am actually stupid enough to follow McDonald's recommendation in Starting Out: 1 e4! and play the Open Siclian.

Seven Ways to Smash the Sicilian
Yury Lapshun Nick Conticello

One of the main reasons the Sicilian is the most popular opening is that is it promotes such bold and aggressive chess. But as White it's not enough just to attack; you must do so in the right way, using the appropriate weapons. In this book Yury Lapshun and Nick Conticello introduce, categorize and analyse the 'Seven Deadly Sacrifices' White has at his disposal. It's impossible to play Open Sicilian positions with either colour without an intimate knowledge of these sacrifices, and by using illustrative games the authors teach you everything you need to know, including the vital skill of how to recognize when favourable sacrificial conditions arise.

*The ultimate guide to Sicilian bashing

*Covers main lines of the Sicilian

*Includes a feast of entertaining games and violent sacrifices

Published June 2009 EU, July 2009 US | ISBN 9781857445954
Format Paperback, 192 pages


A book is "stupendous" that you haven´t even seen yet? Do me a favour. I´ve seen that you have started a thread on another "upcoming" everyman book elsewhere in a similar fashion. These kind of posts are blatant advertising, please stop hijacking the forum like this.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #18 - 09/24/08 at 20:48:40
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notyetagm wrote on 09/24/08 at 20:29:17:
An upcoming book by EVERYMAN CHESS is just what you need. Smiley

http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=491

This book looks stupendous! It is exactly what I need, as I am actually stupid enough to follow McDonald's recommendation in Starting Out: 1 e4! and play the Open Siclian.

Seven Ways to Smash the Sicilian


Be aware that it won't offer a repertoire  nor detailed coverage of opening lines.  It's just about the typical White sacrifices, and how and when they work.
  

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Reply #17 - 09/24/08 at 20:29:17
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An upcoming book by EVERYMAN CHESS is just what you need. Smiley

http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=491

This book looks stupendous! It is exactly what I need, as I am actually stupid enough to follow McDonald's recommendation in Starting Out: 1 e4! and play the Open Siclian.

Seven Ways to Smash the Sicilian
Yury Lapshun Nick Conticello

One of the main reasons the Sicilian is the most popular opening is that is it promotes such bold and aggressive chess. But as White it's not enough just to attack; you must do so in the right way, using the appropriate weapons. In this book Yury Lapshun and Nick Conticello introduce, categorize and analyse the 'Seven Deadly Sacrifices' White has at his disposal. It's impossible to play Open Sicilian positions with either colour without an intimate knowledge of these sacrifices, and by using illustrative games the authors teach you everything you need to know, including the vital skill of how to recognize when favourable sacrificial conditions arise.

*The ultimate guide to Sicilian bashing

*Covers main lines of the Sicilian

*Includes a feast of entertaining games and violent sacrifices

Published June 2009 EU, July 2009 US | ISBN 9781857445954
Format Paperback, 192 pages
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #16 - 09/24/08 at 08:58:46
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Thanks all for your contributions. I guess, I'll start with experts vs Sicilian + Khalifman books. They seem to be the closest from what I'm looking for (Bg5 or Be3 + 0-0-0 lines).

The informants are great but they lacks text explanations which is for me important (at least at the beginning).
  
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Reply #15 - 09/24/08 at 07:02:02
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"Desmontando la Siciliana", You better buy it at the editorial site. I have used it some times with a very good service.

http://www.esferaeditorial.com/es/compra.php

  

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Reply #14 - 09/24/08 at 04:42:23
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Boki,
Thanks for that tip. Very easy to miss non-English texts.

A proven author. Looks a hefty time. May well be worth a look.

Found it here:

http://www.indalchess.com/tienda/product_info.php?cPath=21_39&products_id=108&os...

Any Spanish know if this site is reliable?

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Reply #13 - 09/23/08 at 23:02:29
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Besides the Anad-books by Khalifman and experts vs. sicilian there is also a nice spanish book by GM de la Villa "desmetando la siciliana".
However it is quite difficult to get.

It is  a very nice book, all main lines , English attack vs Najdorf, Jugoslavian attack against dragon and so on.
  
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Reply #12 - 09/23/08 at 08:33:05
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All good advice so far.

In addition Dangerous Weapons the sicillian contains quite a few white lines which are sound enough and - importantly - feel like 'proper' open Sicillian lines.

You'd probably want to replace some/many of them eventually but they're certainly good for getting a feel for the kinds of positions you're after long term without massive theory.
  
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Reply #11 - 09/22/08 at 18:44:12
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Yeah I'm not so sure I would use Starting Out: 1. e4! I would lean towards using the Khalifman series if you want strong lines, but you'd have to be willing to do a little bit of work, because the Sicilian covers Volumes 8-10 now, and 11 is coming out soon, with 12 and probably 13 to follow! Experts is quite good too, but with the amount of material to cover in the open sicilians, you expect some shortcutting or missed variations. I also greatly prefer the tree format in Khalifman to complete games. In my opinion the complete games format loses more and more value as the material gets more and more complicated. In the case of the entire open sicilians complex, a tree format is a better choice imo.
  
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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #10 - 09/22/08 at 18:20:55
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McDonalds Starting out 1 e4 recommends open Sicilians and he appears to be useing Adams games a lot. Only problem with this book is that there are many umentioned moves and some annotations are not 100% accurate (for example Anand- van Wely) and sometimes not deep enough.
  
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Reply #9 - 09/22/08 at 14:33:25
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I would certainly use "Experts vs The Sicilian" as a start. When I played the open sicilian myself, I was using "Beating The Sicilian 2" and "Beating The Sicilian 3". A good thing with these books is that you get a feel of which sicilians there are and possible transpositions. Both books (EVTS and BTS) advocate main lines. This is very hard work but should be quite rewarding. I haven't studied EVTS that close, but it seems good. The chess stars series that TalJechin mentioned is of course another option. It's more recent. Again, main lines are given and you'll have many many pages to digest.

Another way would be to look at certain 1.e4-players. Adams is now playing the open sicilian and play calm but not lame variations.

PS. I find it a bit odd that people suggest anti sicilians when the original question asked for material for the open sicilian.
  

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Reply #8 - 09/22/08 at 12:29:01
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There is also 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 e5 to deal with. And both the GP and the KIA, even in these limited versions, demand a surprising amount of work.
At the other hand 7.Nd5 against the Svesjnikov is not very theoretical.
  

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Reply #7 - 09/22/08 at 09:07:31
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Yes I agree with you, that repertoire for White is interesting. But Sveshnikov's players could try to get their opening after 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 e6 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Nf6 and now the most played is 6.Nb5 which often result into a Sveshnikov transposition with 6..d6 7.Bf4 e5 8.Bg5. So, what would you suggest, the second most popular: 6.Nxc6?

Other well-known idea is to get an "optimal" c3 Sicilian with 2.Nf3 and 3.c3 only against 2..Nc6 or 2..e6 where Black is now less flexible. Of course against 2..d6, 3.c3 is not the same system.
  
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Reply #6 - 09/22/08 at 02:45:03
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One approach worth considering is

1. e4 c5
2. Nc3

(a) Nc6
3.Nf3 (e6 or d6)
4.d4 cxd
5. Nxd4 and black has missed out on the Nadjorf Kan and Sveshnikov.

you are still going to have to learn to play against the classical, dragon, scheveningen and Taimanov  but you have greatly reduced what yo need to learn.

(b) 2...d6
3.f4 with the best version of the Grand Priz Attack.

(c) 2..e6
3. Qe2 with a King's Indian attack.
  

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Reply #5 - 09/21/08 at 10:08:42
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Wouldn't "Opening for White According to Anand" (Volumes 8-10) fit the description?
  
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Reply #4 - 09/20/08 at 13:37:23
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Game collections and tournament books are often underestimated as opening sources.
For open Sicilians I just want to mention Kasparov´s Predecessors. And "San Luis 2005"
with excellent coverage of many important high level games in still topical  lines.

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Reply #3 - 09/19/08 at 21:31:31
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A hopelessly old-fashioned idea (but one I like) would be to have a look at the open Sicilian games in, say, the most recent couple of Informants.
  
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Reply #2 - 09/19/08 at 21:08:21
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The good news is that you don't need to start with the main lines. There is a lot of less critical stuff that requires less work and still contains considerable venom. The bad news is that there are not many sources you can use. The really bad news is that almost all the good introductory sources are and 25 years old and non-English. Personally I still use Pachmann's excellent overview (in German).
The only recent book that might fulfill your needs is Davies' Taming the Sicilian. It's a repertoire book for White based on 6.g3 variations.
If you prefer the topical variations then it must be Experts vs. The Sicilian combined with Khalifman's Openings according to Anand volumes.
  

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Re: Book on open Sicilian for White
Reply #1 - 09/19/08 at 16:28:11
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If you are not afraid of theory Experts is a good way to start.
Beating the Sicilian 3 is an other book but its quite outdated.
  
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Book on open Sicilian for White
09/19/08 at 15:50:20
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Hi,

I really like the open sicilian, but I'm a little bit lost due to the amount of lines. I never dared to play it on the board the way I would like to play (with castling long on almost every variation), because I'm afraid of facing a deep theoretical line I didn't study (I don't know any line ...)

That's why I would like to start studying the open sicilian on the white side SERIOUSLY. For that I'm looking for books. The problem is almost every book written on the sicilian are for the black side.
Could someone recommend me some good books to study ? One book per variation would be fine (Classical, Najdorf, Dragon, Schev, Shveshnikov, ...)
Is "Experts vs Sicilian" a good start ?

PS: I know the open sicilian is the most complex opening and it's pretty hard to study but I'm motivated and I like reading books.

Thanks !
  
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