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Re: Eric's October 2008 update.
Reply #7 - 05/04/09 at 14:12:22
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AlanG wrote on 05/04/09 at 13:31:26:
I found a game score at the French Federation's website, but it says it's a draw? Is that right? - the final position looks good for White.  Sad


Yes, but a draw won the match for us, so the Montpellier captain (our own Glenn Flear) asked Eric to take the repetition when he had an extra exchange (the end of the game is missing from the FFE site).
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Re: Eric's October 2008 update.
Reply #6 - 05/04/09 at 13:31:26
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I found a game score at the French Federation's website, but it says it's a draw? Is that right? - the final position looks good for White.  Sad

It'll be interesting to see Eric's analysis of the game.

When I analysed this, I (and my friend Fritz) thought that it was better for White to play Rd1 (when the queen is on h5) instead of playing h2-h4 (with the queen on f7).  I think both lines win, but Rd1 seemed clearer. It's hard to find anything useful for Black to do in this position.

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Re: Eric's October 2008 update.
Reply #5 - 05/04/09 at 12:05:39
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AlanG wrote on 11/11/08 at 17:50:41:
White can play 10.Nxd7.

The point is that after the natural 10...Bxd7 White has a surprising resource.

11.Bxd6 Qxd6 12.dxc5 Qxc5 13.Bxh7+! Kxh7 14.Qh5+ Kg8 15.Ne4! gaining tempo by hitting the Black queen.


The sixth round of the French league almost came to a standstill on Saturday when Eric managed to play this fantastic novelty against none other than the GrandMaster Dmitry SVETUSHKIN 2615!! Shocked
You can even see this unique moment captured on video over on the French Federation's site!
The game will no doubt feature in the next update! Smiley
  
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Re: Eric's October 2008 update.
Reply #4 - 11/14/08 at 13:32:31
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GMEricPrie wrote on 11/14/08 at 09:55:42:
Thanks a lot Alang! This is an incredible trap. Nxd7 was looking so lame... Do you have any game with it that I could publish? I have found none.

No, I found this line a while ago, but I haven't had the chance to play it.
What do you think about the position after 10...Qxd7. i.e. if Black knows about the trap is 10 Nxd7 still worth playing?
  
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Re: Eric's October 2008 update.
Reply #3 - 11/14/08 at 09:55:42
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12.Qc2(!) g6!? 13.0-0 and something else than 13...c4?! 14.Be2 e5  Kveinys-Nyback Plovdiv 2003.
This possibility was difficult to miss indeed as it appeared in brackets ( without evaluation however...) just one line after the extract given by anonymous.
But when you give credit to an evaluation after 7 non forced moves without analysis on the base of one single game...In comparison with my game 12, I would be surprised if White had anything there with that become bad bishop on g3 and that hole on e4. Incidentally, I will comment Sedlak-Drozdovsky with the same structure in the next delivery.

Please, stop asking...stop asking me to stop criticizing J-K experimental book!

I say what I estimate right and what is not.
In this update about 9...Nd7! :
"This is well spotted by Cox but underrated by J-K who even give 10.Nf3 as a reply (as in our game 12), but embellished with an exclamation mark and on the base of a unique uncommented game! It is a pity that these 2 books were printed at approximately the same time and are only complementary: What one does right the other does not do, or very superficially. It would have been so much nicer to see a debate of ideas..."

Thanks a lot Alang! This is an incredible trap. Nxd7 was looking so lame... Do you have any game with it that I could publish? I have found none.
  
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Re: Eric's October 2008 update.
Reply #2 - 11/12/08 at 00:12:23
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Anonymous3 wrote on 11/11/08 at 23:44:32:
After 1. d4 d5 2. Bf4 Nf6 3. e3 c5 4. c3 e6 5. Nd2 Bd6 6. Bg3 Nc6 7. Ngf3 Qe7 8. Bd3 O-O 9. Ne5 Nd7 10. f4?! f6! 11 Nxc6 bxc6 Eric Prie missed 12 Qc2! which gives White an advantage. Qc2 is given in Win with the London System under a different move-order (page 105 line a2). I was pretty sure he was going to miss this.

I also want Eric Prie to stop criticizing Win with the London System. The point of the book was to examine the experimental 2 Bf4 and open up new areas to explore. This book does this exceptionally well. It seems like all he does is criticize this book.

But does 12.Qc2 give White an advantage?

I think the line given in the book (which I like, by the way) is:

12. Qc2 f5 13.Nf3 a5 14.Bh4 Qe8 15.Ne5 Bxe5 16.dxe5 Ba6 17.c4 Nb6 18. b3 a4 19.0-0

But can't Black just play 16...c4 ?
  
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Re: Eric's October 2008 update.
Reply #1 - 11/11/08 at 23:44:32
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After 1. d4 d5 2. Bf4 Nf6 3. e3 c5 4. c3 e6 5. Nd2 Bd6 6. Bg3 Nc6 7. Ngf3 Qe7 8. Bd3 O-O 9. Ne5 Nd7 10. f4?! f6! 11 Nxc6 bxc6 Eric Prie missed 12 Qc2! which gives White an advantage. Qc2 is given in Win with the London System under a different move-order (page 105 line a2). I was pretty sure he was going to miss this.

I also want Eric Prie to stop criticizing Win with the London System. The point of the book was to examine the experimental 2 Bf4 and open up new areas to explore. This book does this exceptionally well. It seems like all he does is criticize this book.
  
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Eric's October 2008 update.
11/11/08 at 17:50:41
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In the position considered in games 10-14, i.e. after the moves:

1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Bf4 Bd6 4.Bg3 Nf6 5.e3 O-O 6.Nbd2 c5 7.c3 Nc6 8.Bd3 Qe7 9.Ne5 Nd7

there is an interesting alternative for White that isn't mentioned.

White can play 10.Nxd7.

The point is that after the natural 10...Bxd7 White has a surprising resource.

11.Bxd6 Qxd6 12.dxc5 Qxc5 13.Bxh7+! Kxh7 14.Qh5+ Kg8 15.Ne4! gaining tempo by hitting the Black queen. Black's defensive problems are increased because the bishop on d7 may be vulnerable after a future Qxf7. Analysing this with Fritz suggests White has a clear, maybe winning,  advantage.

Unfortunately Black can avoid this by 10...Qxd7. Then the sacrifice is still good enough for a draw, but no more.

Anyway, there's a pretty good chance of Black falling into the trap.
  
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