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Re: Grandmaster level analysis
Reply #4 - 12/30/08 at 15:11:22
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I saw Micawber's answer.   

While the point of simplifying to a won endgame is still valid, it's nice to see that players are sometimes so fixated on one idea that they miss obvious choices that anyone else can see.

  
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Re: Grandmaster level analysis
Reply #3 - 12/28/08 at 17:12:59
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You are both right. Smiley

Of course the authors' point is simply that sometimes exchanging into a pawn ending is the simplest/only way to win. But they should have chosen a different example. This one fits better in a beginner's book under "The pinned piece"!

I'm reading trough a lot of material on endgames and particularly the art of exchanging, to develop my own training material. I see this problem all the time: The author has useful ideas to present but makes a poor choice of games. Sometimes I can keep all the concepts presented in a chapter, but have to find all new positions, ones that actually illustrate the points without having some fundamental flaw!
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Re: Grandmaster level analysis
Reply #2 - 12/28/08 at 16:20:14
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1.Rxg8+,Rxg8 2.Qe5+ seems a simpler solution   Wink
  
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Re: Grandmaster level analysis
Reply #1 - 12/28/08 at 15:18:04
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Ouch!  Grin

Another "variation" could also be provided
"1 Rxg8 Qxg8
2 Qxg8 etc and wins the pawn ending"
overlooking 2 Qxa2
  

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Grandmaster level analysis
12/27/08 at 20:38:52
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A small christmas puzzle:

Kotov-Matanovic, Interzonal 1952 [Variation]

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"In this unusual position with four queens White's extra pawn does not make itself felt. But the forced exchange of all eight major pieces immediately makes everything clear."

1.Rxg8+ Rxg8
2.Qxg8+ Qxg8
3.Rxg8+ Qxg8
4.Qxg8+ Kxg8
5.Kf1

... and White wins the pawn ending. This is all from Razuwajew and Nesis: Die Kunst der Vereinfachung, Band 1 (1982).

Question: What important detail did the distinguished Soviet grandmasters miss in their analysis?  Grin
  

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