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Reply #40 - 03/27/09 at 17:54:01
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Yes, had a bunch of them when there today.
  
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Reply #39 - 03/25/09 at 14:27:36
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Anyone know if this is in stock at the london chess centre?
  
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Reply #38 - 03/20/09 at 10:00:34
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Very green isn't it? Two tone as well. It seems that they felt the need to compete with the 'exciting' colour schemes from the SOS series.....
  
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Reply #37 - 03/20/09 at 01:03:55
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Mine just got here today.  Ordered from Amazon.UK, and I live in Vegas.  See you guys at the National open.
  
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Reply #36 - 03/14/09 at 13:35:15
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JEH wrote on 03/13/09 at 22:29:13:
It's out already. Mine arrived, but sadly I've got to rescue it from the parcel office first


Oh, ... can it be true? That I hold here, in my mortal hand, an opening book  of purest Green?  Cool

  

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Reply #35 - 03/13/09 at 22:29:13
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ANDREW BRETT wrote on 03/13/09 at 20:39:56:
When is this book out ! And should we get discounts for subscribers to chesspub !!!???


It's out already. Mine arrived, but sadly I've got to rescue it from the parcel office first  Roll Eyes

The Return of ...Nbd7? I'd never though it had gone away  Smiley
  

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Reply #34 - 03/13/09 at 20:39:56
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When is this book out ! And should we get discounts for subscribers to chesspub !!!???
  
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Reply #33 - 03/12/09 at 01:40:55
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The KID is the one major defence where I deliberately avoid the main lines for White. You get interesting, unbalanced psoitions almost no matter what you play for White, so I think the main lines (Classical, Gligoric, Fianchetto) are not mandatory at my level.

But this book deals with most of the sidelines I do play, so now a) they will be higher on Black players' radar, b) they will be better prepared and c) I will have to buy the book myself!

I have mostly good things to say about Everyman, but this is downright annoying!  Angry
  

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Reply #32 - 03/11/09 at 20:05:40
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The majority of these "Dangerous Weapons" are from Black's point of view. However, this does have the advantage of presenting Black with an almost complete repertoire; the only major lines not covered from Black's point of view are the Makogonov variation, the 4.e4 d6 5.g3 line, and the Smyslov variation. However, the antidotes given for these lines by previous books are still valid.
  

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Reply #31 - 03/11/09 at 19:56:45
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The 14 Weapons are:
- Attacking the Fianchetto (4.g3 c5)
- 5.f4 0-0 6.Nf3.e5 vs the Four Pawns Attack
- 5.f4 0-0 6.Nf3 c5 7.dxc5 in the Four Pawns Attack
- 5.f4 c5 6.d5 and 8.dxe6 in the Four Pawns Attack
- 6...Na6 7.e5 in the Four Pawns Attack
- Sämisch Variation with 5.f3 Nc6
- 6...Nd7 vs Seirawan's Favourite (5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Nge2)
- 5.Nge2 Nbd7 6.Ng3 e5 7.d5 h5 h-pawn attack
- Averbakh System 5.Be2 0-0 6.Bg5 c5 with ideas for white and black
- Averbakh System 5.Be2 0-0 6.Bg5 Na6
- Karklins-Ilincic Variation, 7...Nh5 in the Classical Line
- 7...Nbd7 8.Be3 in the Classical Line
- 7...Nbd7 8.Qc2 Nh5!? in the Classical Line
- 6...Nbd7 in the Classical Line
  

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Reply #30 - 03/11/09 at 16:56:14
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005 Preface

006 Series Introduction

009 Attacking the Fianchetto

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nf3 Bg7 4 g3 c5)

026 The Four Pawns Attack Doesn't Prevent 6...e5

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 f4 0-0 6 Nf3 e5)

042 The Pawns That Bind

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 f4 0-0 6 Nf3 c5 7 dxc5)

066 Showdown!

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 f4 c5 6 d5 0-0 7 Nf3 e6 8 dxe6)

085 Continuing to Roll Forwards

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 f4 0-0 6 Nf3 Na6 7 e5)

114 Hold Back that d-pawn!

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 0-0 5 f3 Nc6)

125 Striking into d4

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Bd3 Nc6 6 Nge2 Nd7)

140 Advance that h-pawn!

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nge2 Nbd7 6 Ng3 e5 7 d5 h5)

154 Cramp and Provoke

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Be2 0-0 6 Bg5)

180 Further Constriction with the Averbakh

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Be2 0-0 6 Bg5 Na6)

196 The Karklins-llincic Variation

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nh5)

222 The Return of...Nbd7: Part One

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nbd7 8 Be3 Re8)

240 The Return of ...Nbd7: Part Two

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nbd7 8 Qc2 Nh5)

252 The Return of ...Nbd7: Part Three

(1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 Nbd7)

267 Index of Variations

272 Index of Games
  
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Reply #29 - 03/11/09 at 12:13:04
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The 14 Weapons are:
- Attacking the Fianchetto (4.g3 c5)
- 5.f4 0-0 6.Nf3.e5 vs the Four Pawns Attack
- 5.f4 0-0 6.Nf3 c5 7.dxc5 in the Four Pawns Attack
- 5.f4 c5 6.d5 and 8.dxe6 in the Four Pawns Attack
- 6...Na6 7.e5 in the Four Pawns Attack
- Sämisch Variation with 5.f3 Nc6
- 6...Nd7 vs Seirawan's Favourite (5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Nge2)
- 5.Nge2 Nbd7 6.Ng3 e5 7.d5 h5 h-pawn attack
- Averbakh System 5.Be2 0-0 6.Bg5 c5 with ideas for white and black
- Averbakh System 5.Be2 0-0 6.Bg5 Na6
- Karklins-Ilincic Variation, 7...Nh5 in the Classical Line
- 7...Nbd7 8.Be3 in the Classical Line
- 7...Nbd7 8.Qc2 Nh5!? in the Classical Line
- 6...Nbd7 in the Classical Line
  

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Reply #28 - 03/04/09 at 20:24:56
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TopNotch wrote on 02/01/09 at 16:58:35:
By the way: 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nbd7 8 Be3 Re8 9 Qc2 Looks promising for White and although Bologan and Bacrot have both recently posted wins on the Black side of this line, I am not totally convinced by their handling of the position.

Ideas welcome.

Toppy Smiley


I have been doing some poking around myself in this line since I stumbled across it, so I'm interested in what the book has to say. Delaying d5 seems logical. I think Black might be OK with 9. ...Ng4 10. Bg5 Bf6 11. Bxf6 Ngxf6 12. Rad1 c6 e.g.  

½-½ Gyimesi,Z (2610)-Nevednichy,V (2531)/Hungary 2008
0-1 Smirnov,A (2438)-Kozul,Z (2583)/Plovdiv 2008

but there's a lot of ground here.
  

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Reply #27 - 03/04/09 at 14:46:47
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This is supposedly now out according to the Everyman website:

http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Dangerous_Weapons%3A_The_King%27s_India...

Any sightings?
TOC?
Opinions?

  
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Reply #26 - 02/06/09 at 22:31:20
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This book was just promoted to the "Coming Soon" status at everymanchess.com.

I just asked them to send me a Table Of Contents for both that book and the Dangerous Weapons: Anti-Sicilians book.
  
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Reply #25 - 02/01/09 at 16:58:35
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JEH wrote on 01/12/09 at 20:55:02:
Hmm, I see 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nbd7 8 Be3 Re8 9 d5 Nh5 is going to be in there. I only play the Nbd7 stuff myself, so it's noce to see it get some attention.

I stumbled across Bologan and some others (Hebden's one IIRC) doing this followed by Bf8 Ng7 Be7  Huh Couldn't work out what was going on, just seems a lot of effort to show Re8 wasn't a wasted move  Cheesy

Hmm, I think this is book is now going on my want list.


Is this Book availible yet?

By the way: 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nbd7 8 Be3 Re8 9 Qc2 Looks promising for White and although Bologan and Bacrot have both recently posted wins on the Black side of this line, I am not totally convinced by their handling of the position.

Ideas welcome.

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Reply #24 - 01/28/09 at 02:22:52
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kylemeister wrote on 01/27/09 at 20:30:24:
TonyRo wrote on 01/10/09 at 15:15:25:
Somewhat off topic I suppose, but is the Classical King's Indian Uncovered still coming out?


One might well wonder.  I just noticed that the date has been pushed back again, which I estimate has happened a half-dozen times since the book was first announced something like a year ago.  Maybe the "threat" of its publication can be maintained indefinitely.


Proving once again that the threat is stronger than its execution.   Wink
  
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Reply #23 - 01/27/09 at 20:30:24
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TonyRo wrote on 01/10/09 at 15:15:25:
Somewhat off topic I suppose, but is the Classical King's Indian Uncovered still coming out?


One might well wonder.  I just noticed that the date has been pushed back again, which I estimate has happened a half-dozen times since the book was first announced something like a year ago.  Maybe the "threat" of its publication can be maintained indefinitely.
  
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Reply #22 - 01/12/09 at 20:55:02
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Hmm, I see 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nbd7 8 Be3 Re8 9 d5 Nh5 is going to be in there. I only play the Nbd7 stuff myself, so it's noce to see it get some attention.

I stumbled across Bologan and some others (Hebden's one IIRC) doing this followed by Bf8 Ng7 Be7  Huh Couldn't work out what was going on, just seems a lot of effort to show Re8 wasn't a wasted move  Cheesy

Hmm, I think this is book is now going on my want list.
  

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Reply #21 - 01/10/09 at 15:15:25
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Somewhat off topic I suppose, but is the Classical King's Indian Uncovered still coming out?
  
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Reply #20 - 01/10/09 at 09:43:16
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Many thanks for all these suggestions - some very interesting ones. We actually wrote the majority of the book before Christmas (I'm just touching up the final pages) and I think we have some reasonable new ideas, as well as a few decent rehabilitated lines. One will be appearing shortly in the next KID update...
  
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Reply #19 - 01/08/09 at 05:26:28
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kylemeister wrote on 01/07/09 at 23:20:13:
Well, whatever else might be said of 9. g4 in the Saemisch Panno, it has been a book move for decades and doesn't look shocking or appear to contradict the laws of the game.  I'm even less sure how e.g. the 6. Bg5 Saemisch or the Smyslov could meet any of the criteria.  The definition of Dangerous Weapon seems to be sliding into "pretty much any decent line" here.


I tend to agree.

My suggestions of 6...a5 and 4...Bf5 tend to fall more into the SOS category than the Dangerous Weapons one, and the 8...Re8 line isn't suitable for the series, but I think the remaining suggestions contain quite a bit of venom, and they also have the advantage of being relatively unexplored. Maybe the 6...a6 variation isn't that dangerous if White refuses to meet ...c5 with d5 allowing ...b5!, though.
  

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Reply #18 - 01/07/09 at 23:20:13
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Well, whatever else might be said of 9. g4 in the Saemisch Panno, it has been a book move for decades and doesn't look shocking or appear to contradict the laws of the game.  I'm even less sure how e.g. the 6. Bg5 Saemisch or the Smyslov could meet any of the criteria.  The definition of Dangerous Weapon seems to be sliding into "pretty much any decent line" here.
  
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Reply #17 - 01/07/09 at 22:40:52
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what about these

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Be3 Nc6 7.Nge2 a6 8.Qd2 Rb8 9.g4!?
(chris ward showed this to me and we had an interesting game after 9...b5 10.cxb5 axb5 11.Ng3 e5!? he won but i got a good position even though i sacrificed 2 pawns0

Samisch with Bg5?

Smyslov is always irritating

i think 5.h3 is always difficult to face otb, black can easily drift into a passive position
  
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Reply #16 - 01/07/09 at 20:34:13
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Thanks for that info kylemeister.

On reflection, 8...Re8 seems mainly a transpositional device more than a Dangerous Weapon.
  

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Reply #15 - 01/07/09 at 20:21:54
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Actually 8...Re8 in the Classical Fianchetto has been considered in many books, and in my experience most of them think White does better not to play 9. d5.
  
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Reply #14 - 01/07/09 at 20:06:56
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The following are some suggestions for inclusion in the aforementioned book:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Na6 8.Be3 Ng4 9.Bg5 Qe8 10.c5 or 10.Re1 - both lines seem quite dangerous.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Nc6 8.d5 Ne7 9.Bg5 - I don't see how this line is any worse than the 9.Ne1/Nd2 variation, although I admit it probably isn't any stronger either.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 a5 - depends on the evaluation of the critical 7.0-0 Na6 8.e5. Theory has doubts about its soundness, but perhaps improvements can be found.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Nge2 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Ng3 ed5 9.cd5 Nh5 - quite tricky and offers plenty of piece play for Black. However, I usually beat back the attack as White, so perhaps it's not as dangerous as it seems.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 0-0 5. f3 0-0 6.Be3/Bg5 a6 - a strong line if Black is striving for an improved Benko Gambit.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.Nf3 d6 5.g3 0-0 6.Bg2 Nbd7 7.0-0 e5 8.e4 Re8 - I haven't heard any books mention this line, but I don't think the obvious 9.d5 offers White any advantage with best play.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 Bf5 - quite complex and Hazai/Lukacs seemed to like it for Black.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4   0-0 6.Nf3 c5 7.d5 e6 8.de6 - Moskalenko praises this move highly in NIC Yearbooks, although with best play Black should equalise. Even so I think such an attacking scheme fits the criteria for a Dangerous Weapon superbly.
  

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Reply #13 - 01/07/09 at 17:52:21
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kylemeister wrote on 01/07/09 at 16:26:53:
My impression is that the Bronstein queen-sac line has long been considered slightly better for White.

To be honest I have the same impression Smiley - I wonder the last time a creative IM or GM had a look at this line - perhaps with a little help from the little fish  Black gets what HgMan mentioned: A surprising reevaluation of a somewhat inferior line...

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At least it looks dangerous, doesnt it? Wink
  
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My impression is that the Bronstein queen-sac line has long been considered slightly better for White.
  
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Reply #11 - 01/07/09 at 14:14:35
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Agree with Matemax re: the 4...0-0 lines. Been playing em for years online without knowing too much detail.
Particularly good as an anti-saemisch weapon with ...c6..d5.
Would like to see what some proper research digs up.

Queensac line? Wasnt that busted years ago? By a Levitt game iirc, but forget the details. They wont go near that.
  
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Reply #10 - 01/06/09 at 14:11:07
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I hope there is also room for Black's Dangerous Weapons....

I opt for:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 0-0!?

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.Nf3 0-0!? 5.e4 and now various "shots" like ...c5, ...c6 (I think Glek likes them)


And it would be nice to have a look at Bronsteins (was it him?) queensac line in the Sämisch (Nh5, f5, Qh4)
  
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I looked up John Watson's review of Offbeat King's Indian (because someone had mentioned it in another KI thread) and he mentions this:

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1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.g3 Bg7 4.Bg2 0-0 5.0-0 d6 6.Nc3 (the Martinowsky System, difficult for Black to meet




  
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Reply #8 - 01/05/09 at 13:08:05
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TopNotch wrote on 01/05/09 at 04:05:44:
HgMan wrote on 01/04/09 at 22:36:53:
Well, in fairness, the whole series might be called Surprise Weapons, and I'm no marketing wiz, but that doesn't sound quite so sharp.  I have a few of the books and I think each chapter strives to divert from the mainstream mainlines before move 10, so I doubt you'll get what you're looking for.  You will, however, get a few surprises that might be worth the odd outing from time to time.  They're geared to quick study and rapid application.

Here's the criteria for what constitutes a Dangerous Weapon:

1) Moves that create complex, original positions full of razor sharp tactics and rich positional ideas where creative attacking play is rewarding moves which are new, rare or very fresh, leaving plenty
of scope for research.

2) Moves that are highly ambitious; ones which aim for total domination.

3) Moves that have previously been discarded or discredited by theory perhaps unfairly so or maybe for the wrong reasons.

4) Moves that are visually shocking; moves which seem to contradict the laws of the game.


Based on the above criteria much better tries could be:

1.d4 g6 2.c4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.e4 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.h4  Shocked

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 0-0 6.g4  Shocked

1.c4 g6 2.Nc3 Bg7 3.e4 d6 4.d4 Nf6 5.Be2 0-0 6.h4  Shocked

Lots of fun for both sides at the very least.

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Reply #7 - 01/05/09 at 09:48:52
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i was playing speed chess against an expert, and he played averbahk/four pawns attack, if there is such name (thats what i call it); followed by e5.  real annoying.
  
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HgMan wrote on 01/04/09 at 22:36:53:
Well, in fairness, the whole series might be called Surprise Weapons, and I'm no marketing wiz, but that doesn't sound quite so sharp.  I have a few of the books and I think each chapter strives to divert from the mainstream mainlines before move 10, so I doubt you'll get what you're looking for.  You will, however, get a few surprises that might be worth the odd outing from time to time.  They're geared to quick study and rapid application.

Here's the criteria for what constitutes a Dangerous Weapon:

1) Moves that create complex, original positions full of razor sharp tactics and rich positional ideas where creative attacking play is rewarding moves which are new, rare or very fresh, leaving plenty
of scope for research.

2) Moves that are highly ambitious; ones which aim for total domination.

3) Moves that have previously been discarded or discredited by theory perhaps unfairly so or maybe for the wrong reasons.

4) Moves that are visually shocking; moves which seem to contradict the laws of the game.


Based on the above criteria much better tries could be:

1.d4 g6 2.c4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.e4 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.h4  Shocked

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2 0-0 6.g4  Shocked

1.c4 g6 2.Nc3 Bg7 3.e4 d6 4.d4 Nf6 5.Be2 0-0 6.h4  Shocked

Lots of fun for both sides at the very least.

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Reply #5 - 01/04/09 at 22:43:15
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I seriously considered the Reti KID line for the Dangerous Weapons - Flank book ... but the problem is that it is not really dangerous! Also it is very difficult to define any mainlines as both sides have such a large choice of plans and move orders.
My two chapters on the Mikenas stick strictly to the mainline well beyond move 10! Wink
  
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Reply #4 - 01/04/09 at 22:39:51
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I should add, however, that I really like this series.  I have made good use of a few chapters in correspondence chess, and drew on a couple of the books in preparation for my first otb tournament in a decade.  Without the time, energy, or inclination to get caught up on a bunch of openings in order to be ready for all possibilities, these recommendations to a great job of cutting some corners and getting you a playable middlegame.  With all these kids knowing reams of theory (one claimed before our encounter that he had gone looking for my games online in order to prepare), all I want is a decent position 15-20 moves in.  If I get that, I know I can win.  If I can get these kids out of book early, so much the better...
  

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Reply #3 - 01/04/09 at 22:36:53
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TopNotch wrote on 01/04/09 at 21:20:22:
Neither of these are particularly Dangerous Weapons, and would be better suited to a book entitled Surprise Weapons: The KID.

It will be interesting to see what is offered when the book is finally released, Particularly as the real Dangerous Weapons against the KID are to be found in the well worn main systems, namely: The Four Pawns Attack; Classical; Samisch and last but not least the Fianchetto Lines; these are the Dangerous Systems that concern KID players most. 


Well, in fairness, the whole series might be called Surprise Weapons, and I'm no marketing wiz, but that doesn't sound quite so sharp.  I have a few of the books and I think each chapter strives to divert from the mainstream mainlines before move 10, so I doubt you'll get what you're looking for.  You will, however, get a few surprises that might be worth the odd outing from time to time.  They're geared to quick study and rapid application.

Here's the criteria for what constitutes a Dangerous Weapon:

1) Moves that create complex, original positions full of razor sharp tactics and rich positional ideas where creative attacking play is rewarding moves which are new, rare or very fresh, leaving plenty
of scope for research.

2) Moves that are highly ambitious; ones which aim for total domination.

3) Moves that have previously been discarded or discredited by theory perhaps unfairly so or maybe for the wrong reasons.

4) Moves that are visually shocking; moves which seem to contradict the laws of the game.

In lieu of that, I suspect the Reti KID (which as you note didn't beat Capa in itself) is a surer bet than cutting edge theory in the mainlines, although the more I think about the Reti KID:

1) There's probably too much to cover in a single chapter for it to be fully useful in this format.

2) It's unlikely that the authors would examine a variation that diverges so considerably from the standard KID move order (for White, anyway).

Best bet: a few unorthodox ideas around moves 5-8 in the Saemisch, Four Pawns, etc...
  

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Unownasofyet wrote on 01/03/09 at 19:07:16:
The book is going to be released in April/May, and I have been waiting for this book for a while. I would think that it would be a great weapon for 1.c4 players like me who hate playing against the KID with all their heart. Here are my predictions as possible things for White:

1.c4, Nf6 2.Nf3, g6 3.b4!? Reti beat Capablanca with it.

5.Nge2 in main line.

Both are fun to play, offbeat, and overall sound enough. What are your predictions for this book?


Neither of these are particularly Dangerous Weapons, and would be better suited to a book entitled Surprise Weapons: The KID.

Reti got nothing out of the opening in the quoted game with Capa and only won after his famous opponent made an oversight in the middlegame.

I don't rate 5.Nge2 very highly either, as both 5...c5!? and 5...0-0 6.Ng3 c5 seem quite comfortable and easy to play for Black.

It will be interesting to see what is offered when the book is finally released, Particularly as the real Dangerous Weapons against the KID are to be found in the well worn main systems, namely: The Four Pawns Attack; Classical; Samisch and last but not least the Fianchetto Lines; these are the Dangerous Systems that concern KID players most. 

It just occurred to me that this series is written for both colors, so from that perspective it should be doubly interesting.  Wink

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Reply #1 - 01/04/09 at 19:01:34
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I was rather hoping that this line might make it into the Reti/Flank Openings book, but I guess it could find a place in the KID book. 

I think White gets a very good game against the standard KID, but play against 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.b4 Bg7 4.Bb2 O-O 5.g3 c6 6.Bg2 d5 is a bit trickier...
  

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01/03/09 at 19:07:16
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The book is going to be released in April/May, and I have been waiting for this book for a while. I would think that it would be a great weapon for 1.c4 players like me who hate playing against the KID with all their heart. Here are my predictions as possible things for White:

1.c4, Nf6 2.Nf3, g6 3.b4!? Reti beat Capablanca with it.

5.Nge2 in main line.

Both are fun to play, offbeat, and overall sound enough. What are your predictions for this book?
  
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