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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #16 - 05/13/09 at 21:45:39
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Ender wrote on 05/13/09 at 18:53:35:
Is this book onaly about italian, or maybe e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Nf6 will be included?


Hi,
I think it will be a repertoire based on the first moves 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 and then  2...Sf6 3.d3 - so there will be no Petroff....!

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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #15 - 05/13/09 at 18:53:35
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Is this book onaly about italian, or maybe e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Nf6 will be included?
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #14 - 02/18/09 at 01:48:52
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I suppose you mean 3...Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.e5 d5 6.Bb5 Ne4 7.Nxd4 Bc5 8.Be3. This move has the significant objection of Bd7 9.Bxc6 bxc6 10.0-0 Qe7!, which is not possible after 7...Bd7?! 8.Bxc6 bxc6 9.0-0 Bc5 10.f3! (iso 10.Be3) Ng5 11.Be3 (or 11.f4 first).

I think, with Emms, that the future is not in 3....Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.e5 but in 6.0-0 (but only for juniors like my 14-years old son).
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #13 - 02/17/09 at 22:08:28
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MNb wrote on 01/29/09 at 00:52:47:
I don't like 6.e5 either. It reminds me of 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.e5.



The future of this line, if it will have one, will be found in this variation with 6.e5.  As for playing the Bishop to a6, that is only possible if White blunders and plays Bxc6 at the wrong time and does not follow up.  If White plays the 8.Be3 line Black is forced to put the Bishop on d7.

The mistake White often makes is to play Bxc6 before locking down the d4 square.  Then, and only then can that Bishop come out to a6 with good effect for Black.

Either way, it is not a line that Black fears very much, which is the same for the entire complex after 3.Bc4.

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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #12 - 02/17/09 at 21:23:50
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Markovich wrote on 01/30/09 at 17:05:22:
Antillian wrote on 01/28/09 at 18:19:19:
Err....the .....ahem....Giuoco Piano....hmm. And apparently they have one on the - roll the drum beats -  Ponziani as well: http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Play_the_Ponziani

Us 1...e5 players are just quaking in our boots.


Oh, too true!

Time to jump overboard and swim for the Caro, boys, the dread Piano and equally dread Ponziani are the Scylla and Charybdis that will smash our frail 1...e5 ships!  If only they'd kept on playing the Spanish, which was a total piece of cake for us to play against.


don't know, enough GM's playing these lines and getting good results. It won't mean the end of the world for e5 players but a well researched book on these lines could unearth a problem or two for black.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #11 - 01/30/09 at 17:05:22
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Antillian wrote on 01/28/09 at 18:19:19:
Err....the .....ahem....Giuoco Piano....hmm. And apparently they have one on the - roll the drum beats -  Ponziani as well: http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Play_the_Ponziani

Us 1...e5 players are just quaking in our boots.


Oh, too true!

Time to jump overboard and swim for the Caro, boys, the dread Piano and equally dread Ponziani are the Scylla and Charybdis that will smash our frail 1...e5 ships!  If only they'd kept on playing the Spanish, which was a total piece of cake for us to play against.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #10 - 01/30/09 at 07:11:06
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Thanks for that link, Tafl.  I thought the most interesting new book on that list was Shirov's Fire on Board Part III, Opening Secrets Behind 1.e4 e5 Games.  I'm surprised no one's mentioned it.

This is off-topic, I know, but I was also pleased to see some old favorites on the list like Art of Attack, Art of Chess Analysis, Agur's study of Fischer's play, and Tal's Life and Games.  
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #9 - 01/29/09 at 12:22:40
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Actually these two, and quite a few more are now listed in their alphabetical list: http://www.everymanchess.com/A_to_Z_page.php.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #8 - 01/29/09 at 12:07:48
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Stigma wrote on 01/28/09 at 19:00:09:
Gentlemen,
how exactly did you go about finding those pages?


It used to be a lot easier to find up coming books at Everyman Chess, since the URL's all had in numbers, and you could simply increase the number in the URL by one each time to see what was coming. They seem to have changed that system now.

I happened to find this book by doing a title search on the word "play" at the site.

  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #7 - 01/29/09 at 09:03:51
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Hmmm. I used to play the Italian, but with these books there are usually two problems:
-The lines are not pushing for an advantage (eg that Bd2 line)
-The lines that are, often ignore well-known improvements. That is well-known around 1900. It seems current writers on these lines often ignore existing literature (eg Estrin and even the Bilguer)

We'll see how this books will hold up.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #6 - 01/29/09 at 00:52:47
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I don't like 6.e5 either. It reminds me of 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.e5. The inclusion of c3 and Bc5 should benefit Black.
That little 6.0-0 gambit is interesting though.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #5 - 01/29/09 at 00:39:39
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Piano, Pianossimo, whatever. I don't play any of this with either colour, so I'm not that into the terminology Smiley

The latest serious coverage I saw of the c3/d3 lines was Gufeld/Stetskos 1996 book, so it's high time for an update.

I've tried 6.e5, and I think it's a very demanding variation to play... for White! Black is always threatening ...Ba6 to prevent 0-0, breaks with ...c5 and ...f6 and doing something with the b-file (given Bb5xc6/bxc6). So White really has to know what he's doing there.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #4 - 01/29/09 at 00:23:02
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There's also 6.0-0 and 6.e5, which while not necessarily any objectively better than 6.cxd4, should give White better practical chances.

Anyway I'm guessing Emms is concentrating on the c3/d3 lines.  Quite often they call it the Giuoco Piano even though it is technically the Pianissimo.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #3 - 01/29/09 at 00:02:26
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Are we talking the same stuff? As far as I know 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d3 is called the Giuoco Pianissimo. Only 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb4+ 7.Bd2 is the Giuoco Piano - and this is a harmless variation indeed.
  
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Re: New book for white after 1.e4 e5
Reply #2 - 01/28/09 at 19:00:09
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Gentlemen,
how exactly did you go about finding those pages?

I think a repertoire with the Giuoco Piano is a good idea; White often gets positions similar to the Ruy, with strategic depth but without the mass of theory (also without the theoretical edge, of course).

It certainly was strange to see Pinski's Italian book relegate this definite main line of the opening among strong players (c3 and d3) to a small chapter pejoratively called "The Italian Regretted"!
  
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