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Hey, my old buddy Link! I have been trying your double fianchetto recently on the other site, and have just gotten into the sway of things. However, in my game, they did not opt for c5-d5. It began as this...
1. f4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 g6 4. Bb2 Bg7 5. g3 Nc6 6. Bg2 Bg4 7. 0-0 0-0 8. e3 Qd6 9. Qe1 Nb4 10. Na3
Not in this particular order. I am not asking for advice so that I can get ideas to play against him, but I am simply critiquing my ideas so far. I already have chosen what I am going to try against him, which I explain here - however, anything that anyone chooses to contribute, I would like to consider in the future of my 1. f4 explorations.
For one, the primitive Nb4 causes White to question his setup, and where Black has not committed to c5 as of yet, they have an extra tempo for the ...e5 push. I had debated after Nb4 swinging the queen back to c1 (instead of Na3) and if ...e5, then Ba3 winning the exchange pinning the queen to the rook. But to give up a strong bishop for a rook that is not doing anything at the moment, well, that is a debatable choice. Plus, the tempo spent swinging from Qd1-e1-c1 (or back to d1 even with the idea of a3 kicking the knight) was another that crossed my mind.
Right now, the knight is simply annoying, and I am not so sure about allowing Nxc2 or Nxa2, as I want to venture this game without allowing those options - not that they might not allow White counterplay, but simply on the basis of playing for a unique character of game.
So here is where I stand this morning when thinking about the position. I thought about playing Qf2, and then swinging my king rook to c1, and then preparing to assault the center. So, something like this - Qf2 / Rfc1 and then preparing c4... The downside to this, that I see at the moment, is the long diagonal a1-h8, but at the worst, if I avoid any tricks he may have, I will have given him a hole that he must cover as later tactics on the kingside can come into play. Plus, shifting a piece from the kingside to the queenside does take away some time and power from that side of the board...however, his knight move did not help him to gain more control over e5. And then, he also has the option of trying for c5 (which I doubt) and then swinging the knight behind the pawn, in Ruy Lopez fashion.
So I am simply throwing out this idea... Let's look at it this way...should White have tried to shore up with a3 or c3? I don't really like those moves personally, as Black is about to fight for ...e5 quickly. c3 blocks the diagonal. a3 is a good move, but I think the timing is critical for something more active.
This is my fun in chess! Playing interesting, unique positions that require unique thought. I normally play the e3 setup in the Bird - I never go straight into a queenside fianchetto normally, but I am swimming through different Bird setups to find what fits my personality (the Bird really is a complex system with many branches!).
I still like the fact that there is some pyschological edge - playing into a less played setup, where an opponent is less familiar, and it gives the game a nice character! Not many 1. e4 games where there are still 8 pawns for each color some 10-20 moves into the game! But I have seen that quite a few times in 1. f4 - the complexity is neat.
Anyway, there's my two cents on my little experience with this line.
I have also tried the mirror, with an early c4 and the double fianchetto, and it provides neat play, but of course, pushing f4 instead of c4 totally changes the early navigation tracks!
I would be interested if anyone has an alternate setup to the game I have posted above - maybe not moving the queen to e1 so quickly, or anything....thanks for your time.
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