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Re: QGA Move order Issue
Reply #2 - 03/09/09 at 12:36:37
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In my opinion, if the point of playing 2. Nf3 is only to avoid the budapest, then you should not play it. It cuts so many good openings, that it is not worth it (and the budapest player has a plan B anyway ...) :

Here is a (not-complete) list of the stuff you can't play because of this:

- QGA with e4 is not possible anymore (like you mentioned)
- early f4 lines against benoni
- Grunfeld main line (Exchange with Bc4 Ne2)
- Dangerous lines omitting Nf3 in QGD
- ...

If for all these lines you have an alternative which fits with your repertoire, then ok. I don't think you'll see much QGA from this move order, since it requires to have a full repertoire with 1... Nf6 + QGA + d pawn special.

Except if someone see this when preparing a game against you. It's pretty easy to see this trick when looking at your games in a database.
  
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Re: QGA Move order Issue
Reply #1 - 03/09/09 at 05:12:19
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I would suppose that it would be pretty darned uncommon, perhaps especially below master level or some such.      
  
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QGA Move order Issue
03/09/09 at 04:46:15
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I am beginning to play the white side of the lines recommended in "Playing the queen's gambit".  I quite like the 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e4 Nf6 4. e5 Nd5 5. Bxc4 position.

Against the Indian defenses I have always played 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 since it seemed to cut out  some work (Budapest and Black Knights Tango).  2.Nf3 fits with the rest of my QG repertoire if black transposes to the QGD, Slav, etc.

How many black players will transpose to the QGA after 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3. c4 dxc4 ?   If this is a rare move sequence, I presume familiarizing myself with a line such as 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. c4 dxc4 4. Nc3 a6 5. e4 b5 6. e5 Nd5 7. a4 is less work than learning the Budapest and Black Knights tango.
  
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