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Reply #85 - 05/18/09 at 21:39:30
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And why should it be neccesary to engage with Watson's lines?  Watson throws out a lot of stuff and hopes something sticks. If you like it, suck it and see, but its not as if he's handing out the stone tablets here.
  

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Reply #84 - 05/18/09 at 18:13:03
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Markovich wrote on 05/18/09 at 12:45:25:

But as to what sources were consulted, I'm not sure that's strictly relevant, since the lines considered by Semkov are either wholly original or are considered either unimportant by existing theory.  This is a work of original analysis akin to Monson's book on the Belgrade, though not as dense.

Also taken as a whole it is a complete repertoire, and so far I have found no obvious omissions of important Black ideas.  In fact he even says how he thinks White should treat the Modern and Old Indian.

Well, as far as I can see there's nothing on Watson's 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 O-O 6. Nf3 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Be2 exd5 9. cxd5 Nbd7 10. O-O Re8 11. Qc2 Qe7, there's nothing about Watson's 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 O-O 6. Nf3 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Be2 exd5 9. cxd5 Qe7. 

Watson's alternative recommendation 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 O-O 6. Nf3 c5 7. d5 e6 8. Be2 exd5 9. cxd5 Bg4 10. O-O Nbd7 11. h3 Bxf3 12. Bxf3 Rb8 is only covered with a brief "transposes to another line", when it is at least not 100% clear to me that the transposition has to occur after 13.g4, as black could have some extra options.
  
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Reply #83 - 05/18/09 at 12:59:55
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Confused of course.  I stupidly posted to the other thread, the one about the Chess Stars book for Black.
  

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Reply #82 - 05/18/09 at 12:53:39
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Markovich wrote on 05/18/09 at 12:45:25:
That's odd.  I could swear that I posted a short review of this book over the weekend, and now it's not here.  It was favorable.  Now I'll have to go to the trouble of retyping it.

But as to what sources were consulted, I'm not sure that's strictly relevant, since the lines considered by Semkov are either wholly original or are considered little by-ways by existing theory.  This is a work of original analysis akin to Monson's book on the Belgrade.


Jesting? Or confused?
If the latter, you may have become confused between two different threads: a KID repertoire book for black, and a white 4P text for white (this one).
  
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Reply #81 - 05/18/09 at 12:45:25
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That's odd.  I could swear that I posted a short review of this book over the weekend, and now it's not here.  It was favorable.  Now I'll have to go to the trouble of retyping it.

But as to what sources were consulted, I'm not sure that's strictly relevant, since the lines considered by Semkov are either wholly original or are considered either unimportant by existing theory.  This is a work of original analysis akin to Monson's book on the Belgrade, though not as dense.

Also taken as a whole it is a complete repertoire, and so far I have found no obvious omissions of important Black ideas.  In fact he even says how he thinks White should treat the Modern and Old Indian.
  

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Reply #80 - 05/18/09 at 06:52:08
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It looks like some of the obvious sources were not considered for this book and in fact Watson's recommendations from the Guide to the Modern Benoni are not analysed, at all. I guess Perhaps Dangerous Weapons: The King's Indian came out too late, but Watson would have seemed obvious to me.
  
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Reply #79 - 05/18/09 at 00:40:23
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Semkov wrote on 05/15/09 at 20:11:47:
"My point is that I see the FP as giving Black the kind of game that he wants."
Well, I have just the opposite opinion. KID players like to stick to their typical attacks on the White king. They usually hate to be fiercely attacked  themselves by a well prepared opponent. This is the main reason I like so much the FPA. Many devoted KID players try tricky  move orders to avoid the FPA and land into murky positions in the opening.
By the way, if I was afraid that John Watson could refute my ideas, I would not have written anything. The truth is that Rybka and much better players will put an effort and they will certainly come up with something, but then other players will improve, and so chess is going on. I only claim that the old theory is wrong and I propose new ways backed with deep analysis. If someone can do better, let see him. It is easy to criticise, but difficult to come up with original ideas and have guts to throw them to the lions (sorry, to the forum members).



No apology needed and I am happy to see you make the statements you make in the forums.  I was on the fence, but have now decided to purchase the book because it has this same attitude you display and transfers it to playable moves to defeat KID, then I am sure it will be excellent book and very worthy.
  
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Reply #78 - 05/15/09 at 20:11:47
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"My point is that I see the FP as giving Black the kind of game that he wants."
Well, I have just the opposite opinion. KID players like to stick to their typical attacks on the White king. They usually hate to be fiercely attacked  themselves by a well prepared opponent. This is the main reason I like so much the FPA. Many devoted KID players try tricky  move orders to avoid the FPA and land into murky positions in the opening.
By the way, if I was afraid that John Watson could refute my ideas, I would not have written anything. The truth is that Rybka and much better players will put an effort and they will certainly come up with something, but then other players will improve, and so chess is going on. I only claim that the old theory is wrong and I propose new ways backed with deep analysis. If someone can do better, let see him. It is easy to criticise, but difficult to come up with original ideas and have guts to throw them to the lions (sorry, to the forum members).

  
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Reply #77 - 05/14/09 at 18:06:40
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ghenghisclown wrote on 05/14/09 at 17:16:23:
Semkov wrote on 05/14/09 at 13:45:11:
"To avoid getting ripped off by chess authors we probably must stop buying chess books..."


It is senseless to claim that the FPA sucks. Yes, it does, but my book tries to change that so one should comment on which of my variations exactly sucks.


Emphasis mine above.

I'm not going to engage in an analytical war. Of course, I think you'd win anyway. It reminds me of the story of an argument between Bogoljubow and Sämisch. Sämisch kept losing the argument between the two room mates, but technically he was right. It's just that he was the weaker player. 

My point is that I see the FP as giving Black the kind of game that he wants. I had a good friend who liked playing this variation. Despite getting advantages sometimes he ended up clobbered because one slip and Black's tactical play is always just beneath the surface - ready to pounce. I doubt very much (sorry) whether a book on the FP can withstand scrutiny by say, John Watson or someone like him.

Also, this opening has certain qualities I don't like. Among them is the fact the preponderance of victories for White seem more related to rating than any other factor. You'd have to really upset the applecart, if you pardon the phrase, to demonstrate something worthwhile.


I think Semkov's claim is that his new analysis will fundamentally change the assessment of the Four Pawn's Attack. I am skeptical, but am prepared to reserve judgement.
  

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Reply #76 - 05/14/09 at 17:16:23
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Semkov wrote on 05/14/09 at 13:45:11:
"To avoid getting ripped off by chess authors we probably must stop buying chess books..."


It is senseless to claim that the FPA sucks. Yes, it does, but my book tries to change that so one should comment on which of my variations exactly sucks.


Emphasis mine above.

I'm not going to engage in an analytical war. Of course, I think you'd win anyway. It reminds me of the story of an argument between Bogoljubow and Sämisch. Sämisch kept losing the argument between the two room mates, but technically he was right. It's just that he was the weaker player. 

My point is that I see the FP as giving Black the kind of game that he wants. I had a good friend who liked playing this variation. Despite getting advantages sometimes he ended up clobbered because one slip and Black's tactical play is always just beneath the surface - ready to pounce. I doubt very much (sorry) whether a book on the FP can withstand scrutiny by say, John Watson or someone like him.

Also, this opening has certain qualities I don't like. Among them is the fact the preponderance of victories for White seem more related to rating than any other factor. You'd have to really upset the applecart, if you pardon the phrase, to demonstrate something worthwhile.
  

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Reply #75 - 05/14/09 at 15:19:11
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TopNotch wrote on 05/14/09 at 02:33:23:
I have decided to order this book to more closely examine its ideas and quality of analysis, after which I will post a full review. 

I am hoping it's more convincing than Dzinzi's new release Slaying The Dragon! which turned out to be nothing more than his usual mix of good and bad analysis with plenty hyperbole thrown in. Needless to say after viewing and analysing Dzinzi's offering, I felt I had been ripped off, hopefully for the last time.

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Chess Stars has good record of publishing, Dzindzi not so.  I always felt Dzindzi publishes for the unwashed masses, Chess Stars for strong Chess players.  Are you implying they may have become the same level of effort?
  
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Reply #74 - 05/14/09 at 13:45:11
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"To avoid getting ripped off by chess authors we probably must stop buying chess books."

Perhaps you do not realise that people actually have stopped buying chess books already! We at Chess Stars have always been trying to publish only the best works we can afford, but I'm afraid that many players cannot tell the difference. The flood of rubbish devaluates the really good books and makes it impossible to produce them. 

It is senseless to claim that the FPA sucks. Yes, it does, but my book tries to change that so one should comment on which of my variations exactly sucks.
  
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Reply #73 - 05/14/09 at 12:33:41
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TopNotch wrote on 05/14/09 at 02:33:23:

I am hoping it's more convincing than Dzinzi's new release Slaying The Dragon! which turned out to be nothing more than his usual mix of good and bad analysis with plenty hyperbole thrown in. Needless to say after viewing and analysing Dzinzi's offering, I felt I had been ripped off, hopefully for the last time.

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To avoid getting ripped off by chess authors we probably must stop buying chess books. Embarrassed
Looking forward for your review, TopNotch.
  

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Reply #72 - 05/14/09 at 03:53:27
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Good, I can't wait for your review...
  

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Reply #71 - 05/14/09 at 02:33:23
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I have decided to order this book to more closely examine its ideas and quality of analysis, after which I will post a full review. 

I am hoping it's more convincing than Dzinzi's new release Slaying The Dragon! which turned out to be nothing more than his usual mix of good and bad analysis with plenty hyperbole thrown in. Needless to say after viewing and analysing Dzinzi's offering, I felt I had been ripped off, hopefully for the last time.

Tops Smiley

  

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