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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #69 - 07/05/10 at 20:55:13
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I fully support Jacob & Co in their position of publishing schedule and puting quality in front of quantity.
But I am just curios about Najdorf lines proposed by Ftacnik. As everyone knows there are tons of papers written on 6.Bg5 e6 line. And according to the table of content this line is covered in only 30 or so pages. So I am curious whether this will be a full coverage of all possibilities in proposed lines or justa modern treatment. To be honest I doubt that one can fully cover all possible lines in such number of pages even the selected lines are not the main ones. In addition the motto of the series says: "...Try the main lines" Smiley
  
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Reply #68 - 07/05/10 at 15:20:23
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@MNb Well, the points I made should probably have come with the proviso 'in theory'.  In practice the results can be somewhat different!  Smiley
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #67 - 07/05/10 at 14:04:03
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Hoppers wrote on 07/04/10 at 23:03:34:
which leaves you wondering just how good the material is on the lines you really want to see.  The result is then that you are more tempted to buy the book.

Perhaps then it's not such a smart move to present a page containing a sideline that is supposed to lead to =+, but in reality should be equal but demands accurate play from Black. Or am I wrong?
  

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Reply #66 - 07/05/10 at 10:38:39
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Well, my (vaguely educated!) guess would be that coverage of a 'minor' line in the Najdorf would still be rather useful.  Virtually all of those lines have a reasonable body of theory around them; and have been receiving 2700 attention of late.  For instance, there has been some rather serious developments in the line 6 h3, such as 6...e6 7 g4 b5 8 Bg2 Bb7 9 0-0 b4 10 Nd5!   

Therefore a .pdf of supposedly lines might still be considered a bit too much of a give-away.
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #65 - 07/05/10 at 07:56:55
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Hoppers wrote on 07/04/10 at 23:03:34:
@Gorath

The .pdf samples are rarely of some really 'meaty' mainline material.  They are usually an example of the quantity/quality of the analysis; which leaves you wondering just how good the material is on the lines you really want to see.  The result is then that you are more tempted to buy the book.



Ok but why not for example one Minor Open Line (like 6.Rg1,6.g3,6.h3,6.f4,6.Be2 or 6.Bc4) ?
  
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Reply #64 - 07/04/10 at 23:03:34
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@Gorath

The .pdf samples are rarely of some really 'meaty' mainline material.  They are usually an example of the quantity/quality of the analysis; which leaves you wondering just how good the material is on the lines you really want to see.  The result is then that you are more tempted to buy the book.
  

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Reply #63 - 07/04/10 at 22:16:04
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Oho, on page 79 I am missing the game Bohosjan-Williams, Zonal 1972: 8.f5 e6 9.fxg6 (in the game 9.fxe6 fxe6 was played) fxg6 10.Qe1. Black doesn't have to be worse after the opening, but should play accurately.
  

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Reply #62 - 07/04/10 at 21:30:13
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I agree. I like Ftacnik's style in this excerpt, but it seems illogical to promote a book about the Najdorf with a chapter about the Grand Prix.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #61 - 07/04/10 at 11:39:35
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I don't know if all noticed that 2 days ago the excerpt was published on the site. Here the link:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/GM6-The-...

The excerpt was nice but there is something that i didn't understand. Why no excerpt of an Open Sicilian Chapter? That was a bit disappointing for me! I will the book anyway but it would have been nice to see a Najdorf/Scheveningen line.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #60 - 07/02/10 at 20:18:07
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Here's a quick update as promised a while back. I left the office a few hours ago, at which point the book was just about ready to go for printing, with just a few trivial final changes waiting to be made. Barring any extraordinary circumstances, it should now be with the printer. It will take roughly three weeks for the book to be printed and delivered to our warehouse, and another few days to reach the various retailers around Europe.

I noticed a couple of issues that cropped up in the discussion, so here is my take on them.

Firstly, I saw there was some talk about lines with ...e6 instead of ...e5 (for instance after 6.Be2) not being a 'real' Najdorf. When producing a repertoire book you can never please everyone, so I do not see much point in debating this issue at length. However I will just point out that Ftacnik is a serious expert on the Scheveningen set-up (he has been playing it for close to 30 years at GM level), and frankly I think we would have been crazy to throw almost three decades of accumulated knowledge away and force him to recommend a line in which he has very little experience. So come on people, let's appreciate what the author has to contribute and take the opportunity to broaden our chess knowledge by learning about something different. 

Secondly, about this idea of postponing the book in order to wait for Khalifman's next volume. Forgive me for saying so, but this would indeed have been a "no brain" step for us to take. Yes, it would have been nice to see what Khalifman has in store after 6.Be3 e6 7.f3. Okay, with that being said, let's think of the drawbacks:
1) We would p!ss off all the customers who have pre-ordered (and paid for) the book and have patiently been waiting for it. 
(By the way I don't know if this site has some kind of auto-censoring facility for words like "the p-word", hence the slight adjustment. And by the way if you find that offensive then please accept my sincerest apologies...and p.off...no just kidding! Anyway back to the subject at hand...)
2) We would p!ss off all the other customers who are waiting to buy the book.
3) We would p!ss off the chess retailers around Europe and across the world, who know they will do great business with a GM Repertoire book.
4) We would have to spend time and resources monitoring developments taking place in all the variations featuring in the other 18 chapters.
5) Finally, QC would lose a significant amount of revenue by delaying. 

Not a brilliant plan, is it? So instead we publish ASAP and promise a free update on our website to counter any problem lines arising in Khalifman's book. (And incidentally, how many publishers would even offer to do that?) 

Having dealt with those two subjects, let me just say I'm happy to see that the great majority of comments here have been positive and supportive, so I hope the book lives up to what are undoubtedly high expectations.

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #59 - 06/30/10 at 08:37:05
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I should say that if you want a book on time with what this includes, then buy "Play the Najdorf" by James Rizzitano, published by Gambit. It is only 144 pages, which means you cannot cover everything, but it looks like a decent job. (But to say that this book is not dating as fast as ours would be silly).

If you want a very ambitious project, then get our book. If it turns out there is a problem with the Khalifman book - go to our site and we will produce an update.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #58 - 06/30/10 at 08:32:30
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To suggest that the Starting Out books from Everyman are not time dependent is silly. Also, to suggest that their authors are on time is unrealistic. Clearly the reason why they have to have these long delays is because they have to create a buffer for when the authors are not on time.

However, this does not relate to the main problem, which is that if you force an author to be on time (at times it can be done), you have to accept a much lower quality outcome way too often. 

It also does not relate to the problem that we don't announce a fixed date, but a projected date. We are clear on our site that we are not making full promises and that we will not compromise on quality. 

About the Khalifman book - actually there are some logistics related to waiting another month; we also publish other books. To be able to offer lower postage rates to the chess dealers, we publish our books in twos. Also, we try to keep 3-6 weeks between publication dates. With 24 new books or so coming out in 2010, waiting 6 weeks because of 1 possible line is a lot. (not to speak of the extra work in updating the rest of the book as well). It is much better to have an update if needed on our website.

  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #57 - 06/29/10 at 11:31:12
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Jacob Aagaard wrote on 06/29/10 at 08:16:30:

(I would never decide when to print a theory book because of money. I know it is not the intention to insult, but I am a bit hurt anyway. I think we have proved a long time ago that we are not thinking money first when we do things. [...]

My post wasn't meant to be insulting in any way, Jacob. I tend to see things from a business perspective, and it seems perfectly natural to me to keep business matters in mind when running a business. It's good to hear your attitude is a bit more idealistic than mine would be in a similar situation. Wink
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #56 - 06/29/10 at 11:17:29
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F22 wrote on 06/29/10 at 09:36:54:
Jacob Aagaard wrote on 06/29/10 at 08:16:30:
We are the fastest publisher by far. We publish the book when it is finished - not when it fits into some publishing schedule. Everyman, as an example, can spend up to a year before publishing a book, from when it was written. Chess Stars comes close, but are delayed by the translation process - but it is my impression that they are doing as well as they possibly can.

At the moment we are still analysing critical positions in the Najdorf book - in three days we are going to the printer with the final product. 

Regarding GM1 & GM2 - the author spent the time writing them (15 months apart) and not the publisher. We inserted new references and analysis the night (literally night) it went to the printer, it was out 3 weeks later.


Part of publishing business is to make sure your authors deliver their work on time. I am confident Everyman is doing a lot better on that front than you guys. Marin and Avrukh would have a hard time taking up so much time if they were working with Everyman or Gambit.

Also boasting about being the fastest publisher (in your sense of the word) is kind of disingenuous. Everyman can wait because the majority of their products age much better than GM-rep books. For example a 6 month delay for "Starting Out: King's Indian" is not a big deal because it is a light theory book mostly focused on basic ideas of KID rather than sharp detailed variations. You can make the same argument for game collections, endgame books, puzzle books, ... which is the vast majority of what Everyman publishes. With GM-rep books you guys have no choice but to publish at the very first moment you can, otherwise the material can become quite useless.

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GM6 is ready the 16th of July to shipping to the shops. We will ship it from our office the 20th, the shops will have it 1-2 days later.


Thank god. I hope my hardcover copy arrives here in Vancouver by August!

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Obviously we will not wait for the Khalifman book. It is not a matter of business, but a question of the material in our book being 400+ pages, and we will meet the Khalifman book on only 1 place (the nature of repertoires). If indeed there is a problem - which I hope there will not be - we will probably make an update for our website. 

Anyway, it is more fair like this - both teams not having seen the other sides analysis - publishing at the same time.

(I would never decide when to print a theory book because of money. I know it is not the intention to insult, but I am a bit hurt anyway. I think we have proved a long time ago that we are not thinking money first when we do things. The cynics can laugh all the want, but I did not give 5 years of no income to this project to be guided by imaginary financial gains. This does not mean that we are not a business, of course we are. We just produce things in the optimal way - and only then look at a way to make money out of it. We don't allow the money to make the strategy - among other things, it probably does not work anyway...)


I am not saying that you should wait for Khalifman's book because of money. I am merely suggesting you guys live up to the premise of series (I have already had this discussion here regarding Avrukh's choice against semi-Slav). No GM would say: "My Najdorf repertoire against 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 has a hole in it but that line is a small part of the entire theory of Najdorf so I can ignore it!". They would try and find a way to repair the damage, my point was waiting for 2 weeks would make sure this would not happen, I agree it is perfectionist but in "public theory" (theory that everyone has access to) Khalifman is the only other source which potentially could find a hole in your proposed repertoire and if you guys survive him it will be quite some time before your book's material gets challenged.


I find it very puzzling why there are so many complaints about delays. QC is apparently doing all they can to produce the books and deliver them quickly. The authors need time to do the best of the content. 

I'm very happy about the QC books I have. Excellent contents and nice layouts. I also like that the QC staff take their time to do their blog and answer questions here. Keep up the good work!
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire Najdorf sicilian
Reply #55 - 06/29/10 at 09:36:54
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Jacob Aagaard wrote on 06/29/10 at 08:16:30:
We are the fastest publisher by far. We publish the book when it is finished - not when it fits into some publishing schedule. Everyman, as an example, can spend up to a year before publishing a book, from when it was written. Chess Stars comes close, but are delayed by the translation process - but it is my impression that they are doing as well as they possibly can.

At the moment we are still analysing critical positions in the Najdorf book - in three days we are going to the printer with the final product. 

Regarding GM1 & GM2 - the author spent the time writing them (15 months apart) and not the publisher. We inserted new references and analysis the night (literally night) it went to the printer, it was out 3 weeks later.


Part of publishing business is to make sure your authors deliver their work on time. I am confident Everyman is doing a lot better on that front than you guys. Marin and Avrukh would have a hard time taking up so much time if they were working with Everyman or Gambit.

Also boasting about being the fastest publisher (in your sense of the word) is kind of disingenuous. Everyman can wait because the majority of their products age much better than GM-rep books. For example a 6 month delay for "Starting Out: King's Indian" is not a big deal because it is a light theory book mostly focused on basic ideas of KID rather than sharp detailed variations. You can make the same argument for game collections, endgame books, puzzle books, ... which is the vast majority of what Everyman publishes. With GM-rep books you guys have no choice but to publish at the very first moment you can, otherwise the material can become quite useless.

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GM6 is ready the 16th of July to shipping to the shops. We will ship it from our office the 20th, the shops will have it 1-2 days later.


Thank god. I hope my hardcover copy arrives here in Vancouver by August!

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Obviously we will not wait for the Khalifman book. It is not a matter of business, but a question of the material in our book being 400+ pages, and we will meet the Khalifman book on only 1 place (the nature of repertoires). If indeed there is a problem - which I hope there will not be - we will probably make an update for our website. 

Anyway, it is more fair like this - both teams not having seen the other sides analysis - publishing at the same time.

(I would never decide when to print a theory book because of money. I know it is not the intention to insult, but I am a bit hurt anyway. I think we have proved a long time ago that we are not thinking money first when we do things. The cynics can laugh all the want, but I did not give 5 years of no income to this project to be guided by imaginary financial gains. This does not mean that we are not a business, of course we are. We just produce things in the optimal way - and only then look at a way to make money out of it. We don't allow the money to make the strategy - among other things, it probably does not work anyway...)


I am not saying that you should wait for Khalifman's book because of money. I am merely suggesting you guys live up to the premise of series (I have already had this discussion here regarding Avrukh's choice against semi-Slav). No GM would say: "My Najdorf repertoire against 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 has a hole in it but that line is a small part of the entire theory of Najdorf so I can ignore it!". They would try and find a way to repair the damage, my point was waiting for 2 weeks would make sure this would not happen, I agree it is perfectionist but in "public theory" (theory that everyone has access to) Khalifman is the only other source which potentially could find a hole in your proposed repertoire and if you guys survive him it will be quite some time before your book's material gets challenged.
  
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