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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #9 - 03/30/09 at 13:06:24
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MNb wrote on 03/29/09 at 21:14:39:
This is not a contradiction, as the word "but" suggests, as I was writing about 5...a6 6.Be3 g6 and now I do not think 7.Be2 suboptimal. Do you?

Maybe not the Clasical you're thinking of, but one thing I worried about when I experimented with the "Dragadorf" was if White could play the setup from Dangerous Weapons: The Sicilian with Be3/Qd2/Be2/0-0-0. In that book I only found reference to two games where Black combined ...a6 with ...Nc6, namely J.Van der Wiel-H.Eidam, Gran Canaria 1996 and V.Vehi Bach-D.Fernandez Losada, Pontevedra 2002. Maybe black should rather stick to his Dragadorf guns with a combination of ...b5, Nbd7, Bb7 and delayed castling.
  

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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #8 - 03/29/09 at 21:14:39
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This is not a contradiction, as the word "but" suggests, as I was writing about 5...a6 6.Be3 g6 and now I do not think 7.Be2 suboptimal. Do you?
  

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Reply #7 - 03/28/09 at 09:27:57
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Yes, but if white playes g3 and even maybe f4 in the dragon, he also has chosen an "suboptimal defence". as you call it.
  

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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #6 - 03/28/09 at 01:42:26
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Why should playing a sound setup in which Black has committed himself to a suboptimal defence be less challenging? Sounds too much like a positive version of LDZ's eternal "coward" argument. I know you don't mean it that way, but I still hope you get the point.
Try another point of view. If Black was obliged to play ...a6 in the Classical Dragon (new stupid FIDE rule), don't you think the Classical would be much more popular?
The bottom line is: do you want to play that as Black or not? And that question you have to answer for yourself.
  

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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #5 - 03/27/09 at 21:44:21
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MNb wrote on 03/27/09 at 11:17:44:
Of course White does not need to play f3 in that case: 5...a6 6.Be3 g6 7.Be2 or 7.h3 Bg7 8.Bc4 and White argues that ...a6 is suboptimal. That does not mean that these lines are bad for Black.


I know White has more options but aren't those lines less challenging than White's typical plan with f3?
  
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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #4 - 03/27/09 at 11:17:44
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Of course White does not need to play f3 in that case: 5...a6 6.Be3 g6 7.Be2 or 7.h3 Bg7 8.Bc4 and White argues that ...a6 is suboptimal. That does not mean that these lines are bad for Black.
  

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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #3 - 03/27/09 at 04:28:21
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Let's say that for variety, I want to go into the Be3 lines of the Dragondorf starting from the Najdorf move order. Are there any objective disadvantages to this order compared to the typical Dragondorf move order where a6 is only played after White has gone f3?
  
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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #2 - 03/26/09 at 14:47:32
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Indeed, that was also my idea, also not going to play it against Be3, to avoid yuguslav.
  

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Re: Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
Reply #1 - 03/26/09 at 13:45:51
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Certainly worth it against 6. f4, but I'm not so sure against 6. Bc4. Since you are willing to face the Najdorf 6. Bg5, why also risk facing any Yugoslav lines vs. the Dragon? (moreover, Bc4+h3 has also some venom vs. the Dragon).

Not a Dragon or Dragadorf expert though, so others may give you better advice..
  

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Dragadorf / Najdorf repetoire
03/24/09 at 10:39:56
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Hello there, recently I bought a new book about the najdorf (The sharpest siclian, which I like A LOT). But I'm thinking about playing some lines with 6...g7-g6. (I think it is called the Dragadorf but I'm not sure). Especially against:
6.a4 g6
6.Be2 g6
6.g3 g6
and Perhaps even against 6.Bc4 and 6.f4
I play 6...e5 against the English attack.
Are there some move-orders which might prove difficult?

« Last Edit: 03/24/09 at 15:44:26 by Zatox »  

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