TopNotch wrote on 04/17/09 at 02:42:55:


This position, and others arising after 7...Nbd7, are covered in the latest (March 2024) issue of Chesspublishing.

I would guess so.

I notice that that Kg2 move (after 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nbd7 8. Be3 Re8 9. d5 Nh5 10. g3 Bf8 11. Ne1 Ng7 12. Nd3 Be7 13. Qd2 f5 14. f3 Nf6) was given as leading to a slight advantage for White in Panczyk & Ilczuk's 2009 book (citing a game in which Black replied 15...fe 16. fe Ng4).

Vass wrote on 12/05/12 at 14:37:17:


Yes, I'd never thought the dangerous part of these titles was meant to just apply to the opposition 

For further amusement, here's the game with soundtrack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HptmXm956oI

Hi JEH and thanks. Yes, these are very much my perspectives too even tho' I've never actually tried the Dembo line. I like McNab's ideas and that's why I was attracted to the rather strange-looking ...b6 line, where in some circumstances I imagine Black can even play on the queenside but where the battle could really flare up anywhere depending on both players' aggressive or pacific intentions! Strategic yes, but Golubev (I think it was him) makes the point in one of his ChessPub game annotations that the ...Nbd7 lines can get surprisingly rich and lively! Of course, if Black goes ...exd4 things could get very strategically and/or tactically sharp as a matter of course and here I guess a close knowledge of Classical Fianchetto lines would prove very useful ...

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If this is the case, motorhead, what is your recommendation against the lines given by Ametanoitos and Daniel on the other thread? -- are you suggesting (a) that Black is really fine there (and if so, how?) or (b) that Black should choose a line other than the ...Re8 one (and if so, which)?

Michael Ayton wrote on 12/04/12 at 15:27:19:



As just said, 7... Nbd7 works fine against 8.Be3 but nothing has changed with 8.Qc2. So this was and is the critical variation.

TonyRo wrote on 02/17/10 at 16:48:35:


First of all, we now discuss two books which aren't relevant for the very topic. Back to that I still find it not too helpfull what Dembo shows us. She presents a dangerous weapon but misses to explain how to use it. As said in a post before, she gives some variations with comments like "black is fine". But what about the function of that weapon? I think that is not to the point, that series of books has.
I do not possess other Dembo-books but I have Watson's "Dangerous Weapons The French". Compairing these both books for me leads to a clear result: Watson is much more insightful (but that too is off the topic )
What I can extract from the ractions in this thread up to now is that the dangerous weapon 8.Qc2 Nh5!? isn't really dangerous at all, nor is it doubleedged enough for Black to muddy the waters. I simply see no active way to proceed after 9.Bg5 f6 10.Be3 Nf4 11.Bxf4 exf4 and now say 12.a3 (or pass)...
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