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Re: 4.f3 idea
Reply #4 - 04/06/10 at 01:38:05
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Not wholly unrelated, but worth mentioning:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.a3 Bxc3+ 5.bxc3 c5 6.f3 d5 7.cxd5 Nxd5 8.dxc5 f5 9.Nh3 Qa5 10.e4 fxe4 11.Ng5 Nf6 after which Yakovich recommends 12.Qd6! Qxc3+ 13.Kf2 Bd7 14.Bb5 Qc2+ 15.Be2!? as better for White.  But the simple 12...h6! looks almost winning for Black...
  
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Re: 4.f3 idea
Reply #3 - 05/01/09 at 08:42:16
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In the line ) after 19...Bd7 20.Bxc5 bxc5 21.Qb2 Rf4 22.Qa2 Re8 23.Ng5 Rxf1 24.Rxf1 Qxe5 i do not see any reason why Black should be worse... But it is just a quick look at the position. Maybe I missed something...
  
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Re: 4.f3 idea
Reply #2 - 04/28/09 at 19:03:02
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Schaakhamster wrote on 04/28/09 at 14:12:58:
Markovich wrote on 04/28/09 at 01:45:13:
Just a plain and simple anti-Nimzo idea after 4.f3 d5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 d5 7.cxd5 Nxd5 8.dxc5 f5 9.Qc2 O-O 10.e4 fxe4 11.fxe4 Nf4 12.Nf3 Qc7 13.Be3 Nd7 14.Bc4 Nxc5 15.0-0 Bd7 16. Rae1 b6, which is considered equal in Yakovich's 2004 book.  Here Timman versus Karpov, Reykjavik 1991 played 17.Bd4=.  I think White should play 17.e5 with a promising game.  (a) 17...b5 18.Ba2; (b) 17...Ba4 18.Qb1 Ng6 19.Qb4; (c) 17...h6 18.Nd4 (18...Nd5 is met by 19.Bxh6); best may be (d) 17...Ng6 18.Bd4 with what I perceive to be longterm pressure.

you play d5 twice as black and capture on c5 as white without black playing c5; so I guess typo Smiley

about your idea; looks like something I wouldn't mind playing as white although the  position looks messy and unballanced but that seems the be the general idea after 4 f3


Yeah, on move six I put d5 instead of c5 as correct.  I fixed it in the original.

Messy is right I suppose, but for the time being I like the look of it for White.
  
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Re: 4.f3 idea
Reply #1 - 04/28/09 at 14:12:58
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Markovich wrote on 04/28/09 at 01:45:13:
Just a plain and simple anti-Nimzo idea after 4.f3 d5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 d5 7.cxd5 Nxd5 8.dxc5 f5 9.Qc2 O-O 10.e4 fxe4 11.fxe4 Nf4 12.Nf3 Qc7 13.Be3 Nd7 14.Bc4 Nxc5 15.0-0 Bd7 16. Rae1 b6, which is considered equal in Yakovich's 2004 book.  Here Timman versus Karpov, Reykjavik 1991 played 17.Bd4=.  I think White should play 17.e5 with a promising game.  (a) 17...b5 18.Ba2; (b) 17...Ba4 18.Qb1 Ng6 19.Qb4; (c) 17...h6 18.Nd4 (18...Nd5 is met by 19.Bxh6); best may be (d) 17...Ng6 18.Bd4 with what I perceive to be longterm pressure.

you play d5 twice as black and capture on c5 as white without black playing c5; so I guess typo Smiley

about your idea; looks like something I wouldn't mind playing as white although the  position looks messy and unballanced but that seems the be the general idea after 4 f3
  
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Re: 4.f3 idea
04/28/09 at 01:45:13
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Just a plain and simple anti-Nimzo idea after 4.f3 d5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 c5 7.cxd5 Nxd5 8.dxc5 f5 9.Qc2 O-O 10.e4 fxe4 11.fxe4 Nf4 12.Nf3 Qc7 13.Be3 Nd7 14.Bc4 Nxc5 15.0-0 Bd7 16. Rae1 b6, which is considered equal in Yakovich's 2004 book.  Here Timman versus Karpov, Reykjavik 1991 played 17.Bd4=.  I think White should play 17.e5 with a promising game.  (a) 17...b5 18.Ba2; (b) 17...Ba4 18.Qb1 Ng6 19.Qb4; (c) 17...h6 18.Nd4 (18...Nd5 is met by 19.Bxh6); best may be (d) 17...Ng6 18.Bd4 with what I perceive to be longterm pressure.
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