Johannes Brahms wrote on 09/13/09 at 10:23:48:


If I recall correctly, 1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 (I assume this is what you are referring to) 3.g3 (3.d3 Bg4 4.Nbd2 is another antidote to these ...Bg4 lines when White can play a reversed Antoshin) 3...Bg4 4.Bg2 Nbd7 5.0-0 Bf3 (5...e6 or 5...g6 is probably better) 6.Rf3! White is slightly better. The immediate 2...Bg4 is more challenging and last time I checked Black was equalising quite comfortably there. In that case 3.e3 Nd7 4.h3 Bf3 5.Qf3 would be my recommendation even though the positions are quite different in nature to the Polar Bear.

An early ...c6 and ...Qb6 before White castles kingside can also be quite irritating for White. 

HM. 'Mirrored' openings. Compare the Ruy Lopez with the Veresov.
The latter may be playable, but there is no discussion that the former is eminently playable.

belaji wrote on 08/12/09 at 05:26:15:


A little. Once I managed to play ...d6; ...f5; and ...e5 against the KIA with great success. Also I met once the setup c4, d3, e4, Nge2 with these moves (I played the bishop to e7) when I finished development
and subsequently failed to find a plan. Finally I have tried 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 f5 once but got creamed after 4.d4.
As I have told you before the next time I will follow Simon Williams' recommendations.

MNb,

Do you have any experience with f5 & e5 (instead of e6) based upon move order?

Thanks,

Bela

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Don't most Dutchies play the French in order to be able to cope with transpositions ?

I play a little bit here and there. I used to play the Najdorf Sicilian and the french. You could perhaps find some of my old posts on these as Basqueknight or the basque knight. I had changed my email and forgotten my password. Hence the new name on this forum. I also like the Modern Tigers version and the Owens. 

I love a lot of openings but I prefer the black side of the board. I recently started studying the Blackburne gambit in the philidor. Its quite fun to play but even more fun to study the history. 

My first encounter with this opening was in an article on Chess Cafe from the Gambit Cartel. Written by a man I have had the pleasure of meeting Tim McGrew.

halfacreek wrote on 05/18/09 at 13:19:54:


I actually am an amateur who plays the bird on a regular basis. Its my main opening with the white pieces! A lot of "anti-dutch" lines are actually quite useless against the bird! That being down one tempo is what can cause huge problems for the second player. 

The two set ups for black you should take a look at most are the froms gambit most likely the lasker variation. It is the most common of the two froms in amateur play! Another is what IM Tim Taylor calls the recipe where black plays an early Bg4. On a trip back home on the other side of Michigan I had the chance to play some old friends of mine who are also at the same level. They relied more on an early Bg4 than anything else. It did not yield bad positions for me just not the typical bird formation. One of my favorite games in the early Bg4 lines is Danielsen-Luther or Nimzowitsch-Kmoch. Both have similar themes. 

Overall though I think that the bird is a great place to start with for making a serious opening repertoire. It will always be frowned upon or doubted by your friends and colleagues. This is actually a great reason to play. Most people look at it with disgust when you open 1.f4! and most of them dont have a single idea of the history and soundness of this opening. Indeed in a lot of times your opponents if they are queens pawn players will play a reverse of their favorite systems against the dutch. I will tell you now that they will have a rude awakening when you come crashing through.

The bird has been a great tool in teaching me the art of attack. When I started playing chess all those years ago I would start an attack. I would proceed to get a superior position and then continue by throwing away my advantage. Every night I would go home and fritz would scorn me with how I should have continued. So after I picked up the bird and went over numerous games that started to change. 

The bird is an interesting choice for white. It has brought me much joy with each win and even with each loss. I have always learned from them. 

As for the dutch. I dabbled in it for awhile after playing the Kings Indian for years. Its not that I didnt like it. I did. I just feel chained to the Kings Indian and its complications and beautiful History on a completely different note I have started to incorporate 1...b6 into my repertoire. Right now against the Kings pawn but I am sure that my love for these strange positions will cross over and maybe even take over my Kings Indian love affair!

I wish you the best of luck in this opening. 

John-Marc Ormechea

the Basque Knight