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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #8 - 06/20/09 at 15:54:28
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Do you mean, play c6 before d5? I guess you can take on d5 if you play d5 first. If black plays c6 first, I don't see how to stop black from playing d5, except for playing d5 as white first. I think black should not take on d5, but play d6 instead.

Is this correct and, if yes, how does play continue?
  
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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #7 - 06/19/09 at 15:47:56
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but what if black switches to neo grunfeld slav with c6 as fischer did and kasparov did vs karpov - I dont see white getting much there - or have there been developments?
  
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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #6 - 06/18/09 at 20:32:06
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I'm not sure if this is helpful, but don't dismiss the starting out books! I'm 2100 ELO and still think they are helpful starting points.

Otherwise, you can't really go wrong with the KID section of this website Smiley.
  
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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #5 - 06/18/09 at 16:38:31
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Yes I'm aware of the Avrukh book. I have got the first volume myself and I want to build my repertoire around his book.

However I find the material a little advanced for me and I could also use some books on the basics of these openings first. In Holland my rating is around 1600, but I think I'm a bit underrated. The "Starting Out" level is to easy and other books often give not that much prose, but merely plain lines. And I get a bit like Shocked

Has anybody got a clear way to study typical positions, that arise from a particular opening, so that I also can play well against a differend, but logical move?
  
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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #4 - 06/18/09 at 08:42:40
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TonyRo wrote on 06/17/09 at 13:55:59:
You've picked a great variation to play against the KID. It's probably one of the top 3 choices (The Classical and the Samisch being just as popular), and most KID players would prefer to play against something else. A quick survey of the main lines:

After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. g3 0-0 5. Bg2 d6 6. 0-0 Black can play :

6...Nc6 7. Nc3 a6!? intending to meet d5 by White with ...Na5 and ...c5, with ...Rb8, ....Bd7, and ...b5 soon to follow (normally)

OR

6...Nbd7 7. Nc3 e5 8. e4 and now:

8...exd4 is an aggressive system of development pioneered by Swiss / British GM Joe Gallagher. Black generally follows up with ...Re8, ...a6, ...Rb8, ...c5 and ...b5, sometimes sacrificing the d-pawn. Certainly structurally suspect, but if White doesn't respond with precision Black's activity is extraordinarily dangerous.

8...c6, normally intending ...Qb6 I believe. This is the one line I've never played, so it's hard for me to comment on it for the most part.

If you're looking for a book on the Fianchetto System, you could certainly do worse than this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Kings-Indian-Grunfeld-Fianchetto-Lines/dp/1901983749/ref=s...


Keep also in mind that Avrukh's book should cover fianchetto lines so a) consider waiting a few months for the book to come out to have the most uptodate stuff,
b) i guess there will be a burst in popularity of the variation.
  
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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #3 - 06/18/09 at 07:40:01
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Thanks to both Grin
  
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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #2 - 06/17/09 at 14:21:50
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Keep in mind, you also have to play g3 against grunfeld then.
  

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Re: 4. g3 variation
Reply #1 - 06/17/09 at 13:55:59
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You've picked a great variation to play against the KID. It's probably one of the top 3 choices (The Classical and the Samisch being just as popular), and most KID players would prefer to play against something else. A quick survey of the main lines:

After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. g3 0-0 5. Bg2 d6 6. 0-0 Black can play :

6...Nc6 7. Nc3 a6!? intending to meet d5 by White with ...Na5 and ...c5, with ...Rb8, ....Bd7, and ...b5 soon to follow (normally)

OR

6...Nbd7 7. Nc3 e5 8. e4 and now:

8...exd4 is an aggressive system of development pioneered by Swiss / British GM Joe Gallagher. Black generally follows up with ...Re8, ...a6, ...Rb8, ...c5 and ...b5, sometimes sacrificing the d-pawn. Certainly structurally suspect, but if White doesn't respond with precision Black's activity is extraordinarily dangerous.

8...c6, normally intending ...Qb6 I believe. This is the one line I've never played, so it's hard for me to comment on it for the most part.

If you're looking for a book on the Fianchetto System, you could certainly do worse than this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Kings-Indian-Grunfeld-Fianchetto-Lines/dp/1901983749/ref=s...
  
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4. g3 variation
06/17/09 at 13:12:44
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Hi,

Because I faced some problems facing the KID, I decided I would like to keep things a little more open and play this line:

1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 g6
3. Nf3 Bg7
4. g3

What do you think about this and what are the main lines?

Thanks
  
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