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Ender Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 408 Joined: 05/22/06	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #12 - 10/30/09 at 11:56:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	Fllg wrote on 07/31/09 at 15:58:26: Thinking about an early ...h6 in the Sicilian I remember an article recommending 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 h6!? with the idea 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5! 6.Ndb5 d6 with some sort of improved Sveshnikov since Bg5 isn´t possible. Otherwise an early ...g5 may be on the cards. Improved? 7.Nd5 is just better for white.

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ACSian YaBB Newbies Offline In winter's depth I found invincible summer in me Posts: 17 Location: singapore Joined: 10/30/09 Gender:	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #11 - 10/30/09 at 06:59:25	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hey, it's probably better to go for stuff that you actually see in main lines at a later stage. For instance 5...Qc7, (or your ...Bd7). These moves are forever cropping up everywhere, so it wouldn't be such an awful our-of-book idea to play it immediately. However except the Keres Attack and some weird Dragondorfs I can't for the life of me think up any line where Black would play ...h6. Besides what's the intention after a reply 6. Bc4? That said, it's impossible in this pragmatic day and age to condemn any line to the Recycle Bin. Will observe later developments.

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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4977 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #10 - 08/01/09 at 15:41:59	Post Tools	Print Post
	TN's line (a) reminds me of an Informant novelty from about 20 years ago, involving Black playing ...h6 with the idea of ...g5 in the Classical Scheveningen (but without having castled kingside of course). I suppose it compared unfavorably to e.g. the Browne System. I'm not sure why line (c) would be good for White though, with the Bishop occupying e3 (which the knight might want) and perhaps ...h6 preventing White from answering ...g6 with Nh6 in some lines.


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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #9 - 08/01/09 at 11:52:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	I'm not sure I trust this for Black after 6.Be3, for example: a) 6...e6 7.Be2 a6/0-0 8.0-0 followed by f4 and Qe1, when it is far from clear what Black has gained from playing ...h6, which is probably more harmful than useful because it weakens Black's kingside. b) 6...a6 is somewhat more logical since if White plays as in the English Attack with 7.f3, then 7...e5 8.Nb3 Be6 is playable for Black. However, after 7.Bc4 e6 8.Bb3, White can count on a slight edge since f4-f5 is going to hurt in the future due to the weakening of the g6-square and the loss of a tempo in a sharp position. c) 6...e5 (probably the best attempt to justify 5...h6, but unfortunately it has a flaw as well) 7.Bb5! and now both 7...Bd7 8.Bd7 Qd7 9.Nf5 and 7...Nbd7 8.Nf5 are favourable for White, who activates his knight and disrupts Black's coordination. Unfortunately, I can't get this 5...h6 variation to work. I recommend 5...Bd7 instead if you want a non-theoretical but flexible way to play the Sicilian.

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Fllg God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 647 Joined: 05/30/09 Gender:	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #8 - 08/01/09 at 07:17:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Indeed. Even the Morra may be okay here. Honestly I consider an early ...h6 as a concession in most openings. Myself I wouldn´t play this way in a tournament game even if there is no direct refutation. That´s prejudice from my side but I have grown up with "rules" like fast development, King safety an so on. Regarding the subject of this thread 6.Bc4 with a quick f4-f5 (in case Black plays e6) looks quite logical to me highlighting the "weakness" Black has created on g6.


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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #7 - 07/31/09 at 19:40:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	Fllg wrote on 07/31/09 at 15:58:26: Thinking about an early ...h6 in the Sicilian I remember an article recommending 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 h6!? with the idea 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5! 6.Ndb5 d6 with some sort of improved Sveshnikov since Bg5 isn´t possible. Otherwise an early ...g5 may be on the cards. Somehow in my brain the article is linked with Stefan Bücker and New in Chess, but I´m not sure. Perhaps he can clearify this himself. Yes,I noticed some games with 2...h6 too, but since 2...a6 3.c3 is supposedly good for white, then 2...h6 would probably encourage all Anti-Sicilians...


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Fllg God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 647 Joined: 05/30/09 Gender:	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #6 - 07/31/09 at 15:58:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	Thinking about an early ...h6 in the Sicilian I remember an article recommending 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 h6!? with the idea 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5! 6.Ndb5 d6 with some sort of improved Sveshnikov since Bg5 isn´t possible. Otherwise an early ...g5 may be on the cards. Somehow in my brain the article is linked with Stefan Bücker and New in Chess, but I´m not sure. Perhaps he can clearify this himself.


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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #5 - 07/31/09 at 13:08:27	Post Tools	Print Post
	OK, I think I've seen that one actually! So, Transporter fans and sicilianites could start their game with hoarsely whispering "One condition, I play my Sicilian" @Fllg Ooops, I noticed Kasperek-Pokojowczyk, but there black was probably wishing he'd played ...h6 instead of presumably wasting a tempo with a7-a6-a5 Strange that h6 could be confused with a6 more than once, I wonder how that would occur since there are two scoresheets so wouldn't those putting it in the database react over h6 and check the other copy - or did both players write h6 by mistake?


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Bibs God Member Offline Posts: 2342 Joined: 10/24/06	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #4 - 07/31/09 at 12:50:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	TalJechin wrote on 07/31/09 at 12:45:44: Bibs wrote on 07/31/09 at 12:35:05: Why Transporter? Jason Statham a fan? Well, at first I though ]d6,e7,f7,g7,h6 looked like a boat and since I was on a ferry... but then I realised that both the ferry and 5...h6 is all about transport, so why not? Is that the long ferry journey I heard about up there where everyone gets completely smashed? Anyhow, here's Statham: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbh3CDBNIQA


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Fllg God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 647 Joined: 05/30/09 Gender:	Re: The Transporter Sicilian!? Reply #3 - 07/31/09 at 12:49:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	TalJechin wrote on 07/31/09 at 12:28:01: To my surprise it has actually already been tried by a handful quite strong players. I am sure some of these games were entered wrongly into the database actually starting as a Najdorf with 5... a6. Look e.g. at the game Mohr-Timoscenko, Yerevan Ol. 1996 and here especially at white´s 23rd move. In fact there are several misleading mistakes of this kind in Megabase.


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	Bibs wrote on 07/31/09 at 12:35:05: Why Transporter? Jason Statham a fan? Well, at first I though d6,e7,f7,g7,h6 looked like a boat and since I was on a ferry... but then I realised that both the ferry and 5...h6 is all about transport, so why not?


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	Why Transporter? Jason Statham a fan?


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The Transporter Sicilian!?
07/31/09 at 12:28:01

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On the ferry over to Helsingör recently, I was thinking about the Dragadorf, when another similar idea appeared to me.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 h6!?

About a decade ago I looked at something I called "the Anteater Sicilian" at the time (5...Nbd7) on my site. But iirc, white could keep an edge with 6.Bg5 - which would be one of the pros of the Dragadorf, as against 5...g6 6.Bg5 is nothing special.

Still, white's Qd2+Bh6 and/or ...b5 a4! resources made me wonder if there was something else with a similar idea. Thus 5...h6 eliminating Bg5 while black keeps it open what kind of d6-Sicilian he's intending to play.

Depending on white's 6th, black can go for 6...a6, 6...e5, 6...Nc6, 6...e6, 6...g6 and perhaps also 6...Nbd7.

I guess the choice depends on which mainline systems black knows best.

And since Bg5 is the mainline in several of those, I guess 5...h6 may not be completely useless to get white out of book in a delayed Classical, Najdorf, Scheveningen, Dragadorf etc

I've added a pgn-file with some games I found with the diagram position. To my surprise it has actually already been tried by a handful quite strong players.

TheTransporterSI.pgn ( 17 KB | Downloads )

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