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Re: Benko: best vs. 10.Rb1?
Reply #6 - 08/14/09 at 11:57:25
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How is 10.Rb1 standing atm?
  

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Re: Benko: best vs. 10.Rb1?
Reply #5 - 08/13/09 at 18:16:18
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MNb wrote on 08/13/09 at 01:49:19:
It has been a long time since there was even a vague justification to call myself a Benkö guru. I haven't played it since 20 years or so and haven't kept track systemetically either.

http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_anlys/Pain_and_Anguish_3.html

GM Karel van der Weide agrees that 10...Nb6 11.b3 Bc8 is suspect.
So I have looked in my golden oldies to see if I could find some inspiration. Unfortunately I don't have access to my database for the moment (the cause is rather stupid), so you will have to check yourself if it has been played before.

10...Nb6 11.b3 0-0 (why not?) 12.0-0 (12.Nh4 Ra7 13.Bb2 e6) Bb7 13.e4 e6. This idea of ...e6 stems from Bronstein it seems, though he prepared it with ...Qc7 (maybe ...Qd7) and ...Rae8. Compare Averkin-Bronstein, USSR 1974.

You also may compare Flear-Tregubov with a few games in which White chose a similar setup:
9...Nbd7 10.0-0 0-0 11.Qc2 Qa5
a) 12.Rd1 Rfb8 13.Bd2 Ng4 14.b3 Qa3 15.Rab1 Bc8 16.Na4 Ndf6 17.Ne1 Nxf2 Kakageldyev-Vaganjan, Moscow 1979.
b) 12.Rb1 Rfb8 13.Bd2 Nb6 (Ng4 14.h3 Nge5 15.Nxe5 Nxe5 16.b3 Qa3 17.Bc1 Qa5 equal according to Taimanov; Schwarz also suggests 13...Ne8 and 13...Rb7/14...Rba7) 14.b3 Qa3 15.Bc1 Qa5 16.Rd1 Ne8 17.Bb2 Nc7 18.e4 c4 =(T again) Salzman-Benkö, Lone Pine 1981.
But I suppose that White can do without Qd1-c2. Moreover Black is happy with an early draw here, if White answers ...Qa3 with Bc1.

Another idea is 9...Nbd7 10.Rb1 0-0 11.0-0 Qb6 12.Qc2 (12.Bd2? Bc4!) when Schwarz likes Qb7 13.Bg5 (13.Rd1 Bc4 and 13.Nd2 Rfb8) Bc4 Jakobsen-Westerinen, Linköping 1969.
Hope this helps a bit.


Thanks, dear chessfriend, I missed your generous post.  I'll take a look at what your ideas.
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Reply #4 - 08/13/09 at 14:07:43
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The precise one I need to refer to often seems to have been mislaid, unfortunately.

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Re: Benko: best vs. 10.Rb1?
Reply #3 - 08/13/09 at 13:40:49
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Matemax wrote on 08/13/09 at 07:28:32:
If you have access to New in Chess Yearbook 85 - "The Benko is alive and kicking!" on page 217 is exactly what you are looking for...


Thanks.  I have all the Yearbooks, so I'll check it out.   

The precise one I need to refer to often seems to have been mislaid, unfortunately.
  

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If you have access to New in Chess Yearbook 85 - "The Benko is alive and kicking!" on page 217 is exactly what you are looking for...
  
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Re: Benko: best vs. 10.Rb1?
Reply #1 - 08/13/09 at 01:49:19
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It has been a long time since there was even a vague justification to call myself a Benkö guru. I haven't played it since 20 years or so and haven't kept track systemetically either.

http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_anlys/Pain_and_Anguish_3.html

GM Karel van der Weide agrees that 10...Nb6 11.b3 Bc8 is suspect.
So I have looked in my golden oldies to see if I could find some inspiration. Unfortunately I don't have access to my database for the moment (the cause is rather stupid), so you will have to check yourself if it has been played before.

10...Nb6 11.b3 0-0 (why not?) 12.0-0 (12.Nh4 Ra7 13.Bb2 e6) Bb7 13.e4 e6. This idea of ...e6 stems from Bronstein it seems, though he prepared it with ...Qc7 (maybe ...Qd7) and ...Rae8. Compare Averkin-Bronstein, USSR 1974.

You also may compare Flear-Tregubov with a few games in which White chose a similar setup:
9...Nbd7 10.0-0 0-0 11.Qc2 Qa5
a) 12.Rd1 Rfb8 13.Bd2 Ng4 14.b3 Qa3 15.Rab1 Bc8 16.Na4 Ndf6 17.Ne1 Nxf2 Kakageldyev-Vaganjan, Moscow 1979.
b) 12.Rb1 Rfb8 13.Bd2 Nb6 (Ng4 14.h3 Nge5 15.Nxe5 Nxe5 16.b3 Qa3 17.Bc1 Qa5 equal according to Taimanov; Schwarz also suggests 13...Ne8 and 13...Rb7/14...Rba7) 14.b3 Qa3 15.Bc1 Qa5 16.Rd1 Ne8 17.Bb2 Nc7 18.e4 c4 =(T again) Salzman-Benkö, Lone Pine 1981.
But I suppose that White can do without Qd1-c2. Moreover Black is happy with an early draw here, if White answers ...Qa3 with Bc1.

Another idea is 9...Nbd7 10.Rb1 0-0 11.0-0 Qb6 12.Qc2 (12.Bd2? Bc4!) when Schwarz likes Qb7 13.Bg5 (13.Rd1 Bc4 and 13.Nd2 Rfb8) Bc4 Jakobsen-Westerinen, Linköping 1969.
Hope this helps a bit.
  

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Benko: best vs. 10.Rb1?
08/12/09 at 17:41:41
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Would any Benko gurus here be willing to say what they play when the dread 10.Rb1 is on the board?  I spent several hours searching for a somewhat adequate idea for Black, without really coming up with one.  I'm attracted to the idea 10...Nb6 11.b3 Bc8, as propounded by Pinski, but I found nothing against 12.Nh4 h6 13.Qd3!

So far, the best idea I have seen is 10...0-0 11.0-0 Qa5 12.Bd2 Ng4!? as in Flear-Tregubov, French League 2008, but I don't find Black's chances all that appealing even then.
  

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