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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #28 - 02/18/10 at 14:39:45
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Im not a big fan of anderw martin but this DVD is absolute perfect, the best of the ones i have seen so far. One really gets the feeling of Andrew giving you comprehensive knowledge.

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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #27 - 02/09/10 at 21:42:14
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I loved his How to Cheat at Chess! I still have it on the top of my chess book case.  (Ok, that's where I keep my miscellaneous titles, and not where I keep my best ones.  But still.)

One of his recommendations, on how to beat a strong player in a two-game simul, still worries me as a correspondence strategem.

I know the amazing thing about my statement is that I have only one book case devoted to chess books. Cry
  
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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #26 - 02/09/10 at 20:31:46
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Phil Adams wrote on 02/09/10 at 16:29:24:
Memories are so short... When he was an active player, Bill Hartston (sic) was an IM of GM strength. He won the British Championship twice (1973 and 1975).  Black against 1 d4, he specialised in the Gruenfeld and the Czech Benoni and wrote good books on each of these. He also annotated games very instructively for the British Chess Magazine for many years.

Not to forget his excellent How to cheat at chess and not quite so funny follow-up! Wink
  
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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #25 - 02/09/10 at 16:29:24
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Bibs wrote on 02/04/10 at 11:49:12:
Dink Heckler wrote on 02/03/10 at 19:03:13:
Hartson is from the '70s. But its useful for this sort of stuff, which was much more prevalent back then.


For those looking for this source, it may be Bill Hartston, presenter of Play Chess.
The only notable Hartson I know of was a professional footballer.


Memories are so short... When he was an active player, Bill Hartston (sic) was an IM of GM strength. He won the British Championship twice (1973 and 1975).  Black against 1 d4, he specialised in the Gruenfeld and the Czech Benoni and wrote good books on each of these. He also annotated games very instructively for the British Chess Magazine for many years.
  
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Reply #24 - 02/04/10 at 13:34:01
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OK, it seems my memory failed me.

A search at Amazon shows some chess books by William Hartson, but they all seem to be misspelled.
  

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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #23 - 02/04/10 at 13:14:57
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No, Harts[i]t[/i]on and Wa[i]s[/i]on is correct.
  
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Reply #22 - 02/04/10 at 13:12:28
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No, that's the same Hartston...Wason looks like he may be missing a 't' as well  Smiley
  

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Reply #21 - 02/04/10 at 12:47:07
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As a matter of fact there is an author with that name who has written a chess book: 'Psychology of Chess' (W.R. Hartson and P.C. Wason, Batsford 1983).
  

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Reply #20 - 02/04/10 at 11:55:18
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Funny stuff...I thought it might be Hartston before I posted...Googled 'Hartson Benoni' to be conscientious...and the results indicated that that was my man...still never did look quite right  Smiley
  

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Reply #19 - 02/04/10 at 11:49:12
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Dink Heckler wrote on 02/03/10 at 19:03:13:
Hartson is from the '70s. But its useful for this sort of stuff, which was much more prevalent back then.


For those looking for this source, it may be Bill Hartston, presenter of Play Chess.
The only notable Hartson I know of was a professional footballer.
  
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Reply #18 - 02/04/10 at 08:37:42
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f4 is one popular idea. Except, it should be added, against 4...Ne7, when you need some other idea.
  

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Reply #17 - 02/04/10 at 05:31:04
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MNb wrote on 02/04/10 at 01:16:04:
Dink Heckler wrote on 02/03/10 at 17:04:58:
This is the Old Benoni.

Books: Raetsky / Chetverik, and Hartson's Benoni books both deal with all the odds-and-ends Benonis.


There is also a book by Kondratjew and Stoljar that deals with it. It is in German. From the diagrammed position they give no less than 6 options for Black: 4...Be7; 4...g6; 4...a6; 4...Ne7; 4...Nf6 and 4...Nd7.
They also give the options 4.f4, 4.Bd3 and 4.Be2 for White.
I have no idea what White's best setups are these days. I suppose that a database research is the quickest way to get a few ideas.


I believe White's most common plan is to play f4, sometimes with Bb5+ thrown in. Black does obtain an outpost on e5, but I believe this isn't a problem if White plays actively in the centre and in several instances the queenside. E.g. 4...Be7 5.f4 ef4 6.Bf4 Nf6 7.Nf3 with e5 ideas, or 5.Bb5 Kf8 6.f4 ef4 7.Bf4 Nd7 8.Nf3 and I would rather be White here.
  

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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #16 - 02/04/10 at 01:16:04
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Dink Heckler wrote on 02/03/10 at 17:04:58:
This is the Old Benoni.

Books: Raetsky / Chetverik, and Hartson's Benoni books both deal with all the odds-and-ends Benonis.


There is also a book by Kondratjew and Stoljar that deals with it. It is in German. From the diagrammed position they give no less than 6 options for Black: 4...Be7; 4...g6; 4...a6; 4...Ne7; 4...Nf6 and 4...Nd7.
They also give the options 4.f4, 4.Bd3 and 4.Be2 for White.
I have no idea what White's best setups are these days. I suppose that a database research is the quickest way to get a few ideas.
  

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Reply #15 - 02/03/10 at 19:03:13
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Hartson is from the '70s. But its useful for this sort of stuff, which was much more prevalent back then.
  

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Reply #14 - 02/03/10 at 18:40:34
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I don't know the theory of this, but when I face it I assume my KN belongs on c4.
  

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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #13 - 02/03/10 at 17:59:51
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Dink Heckler wrote on 02/03/10 at 17:04:58:
This is the Old Benoni.

Books: Raetsky / Chetverik, and Hartson's Benoni books both deal with all the odds-and-ends Benonis.


Old Benoni... Thanks.
I have Starting Out - Benoni Systems by Raetsky & Chetverik (2005) but I don't know about Hartson. Sad
  

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This is the Old Benoni.

Books: Raetsky / Chetverik, and Hartson's Benoni books both deal with all the odds-and-ends Benonis.
  

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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #11 - 02/03/10 at 15:31:48
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Hi

I am reviving  an old thread.

Let's take this sequence of moves,
"1. d4 c5 2. d5 e5 3. e4 d6 4. Nc3 g6/Nf6/etc"
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My questions are:
  • 1) I'm going to be White in this line on Sunday. What are the books/etc to study?
  • 2) What is this called? The black pawn-structure is the same, still it can't be called Czech Benoni.

Question "+1":
What moves does the Chessbase Fritz Trainer by Martin on the Czech Benoni recommend to Black after "1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3"?
  

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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #10 - 09/25/09 at 10:47:49
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kylemeister wrote on 09/17/09 at 22:01:43:
Hmm.  I've always had the impression that the ...Nbd7 and ...Ne8 stuff is the standard treatment, and several books I just checked make no mention of that Old Benoni-ish ...Bg4 approach.  Seems worth consideration to me.  Maybe it has to do with the idea that the CB is potentially a sort of improved KID, and so Black would rather hang on to his light-squared bishop (e.g. for purposes of the potential sac on h3 in Mar del Plata-type positions).


Yes, this ...Bg4xf3 idea is not at all well covered in my sources, but I consider it viable, if somewhat unambitious (even by CB standards).
  

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Reply #9 - 09/25/09 at 10:45:54
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Markovich wrote on 09/16/09 at 13:27:54:
I realize that it's a theoretical no-no, but I wonder if 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e5 4.Nc3 d6 5.e4 Be7 6.f4 is in fact a viable way of fighting against this system.  Black gets e5 but White gets the f-file and can fight back with Nf3 and Bf4.


I don't think White can make this work. Nf3, Bf4 are met by ...Nbd7, Nh5, Bf6, g6, Ng7...and White's position lacks all dynamism.
  

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Reply #8 - 09/17/09 at 23:20:01
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kylemeister wrote on 09/17/09 at 22:01:43:
the CB is potentially a sort of improved KID


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Reply #7 - 09/17/09 at 22:01:43
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Hmm.  I've always had the impression that the ...Nbd7 and ...Ne8 stuff is the standard treatment, and several books I just checked make no mention of that Old Benoni-ish ...Bg4 approach.  Seems worth consideration to me.  Maybe it has to do with the idea that the CB is potentially a sort of improved KID, and so Black would rather hang on to his light-squared bishop (e.g. for purposes of the potential sac on h3 in Mar del Plata-type positions).
  
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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #6 - 09/17/09 at 12:52:51
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kylemeister wrote on 09/16/09 at 16:21:57:
I don't think I've come across it recently (e.g. it wasn't one of the several approaches addressed in the Yearbook article), but I wonder about White just playing à la the Classical KID (this sort of thing:  1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e5 4. Nc3 d6 5. e4 Be7 6. Nf3 Nbd7 7. Be2 0-0 8. 0-0 Ne8 9. a3 g6 10. Bh6 Ng7 11. Qd2), which I believe has often been considered slightly better for him.


Well doesn't Black typically play ...Bg4 instead of ...Nbd7, intending ...Bxf3, ...Ne8 and ...Bg5?

My understanding is the the two main antidotes are Bd3 with h3 and g4; and g3 with Nge2 and the eventual f2-f4.
  

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I don't think I've come across it recently (e.g. it wasn't one of the several approaches addressed in the Yearbook article), but I wonder about White just playing à la the Classical KID (this sort of thing:  1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e5 4. Nc3 d6 5. e4 Be7 6. Nf3 Nbd7 7. Be2 0-0 8. 0-0 Ne8 9. a3 g6 10. Bh6 Ng7 11. Qd2), which I believe has often been considered slightly better for him.
  
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Reply #4 - 09/16/09 at 13:27:54
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I realize that it's a theoretical no-no, but I wonder if 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e5 4.Nc3 d6 5.e4 Be7 6.f4 is in fact a viable way of fighting against this system.  Black gets e5 but White gets the f-file and can fight back with Nf3 and Bf4.
  

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Reply #3 - 09/16/09 at 13:10:46
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i watched the Andrew Martin DVD maybe 2 Years ago. I remember this being one of his best DVDs. He chatches the principle ideas/manoevers and also gives very concrete suggestions against the most critical/ambitious/dangerous lines from white. So far i could use the Czech Benoni as a surspise weapon from time to time to outplay weaker opponents in the arrising complex middlegame-positions, i have 100% with it  Wink
  

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Re: Czech Benoni
Reply #2 - 09/16/09 at 07:20:19
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kylemeister wrote on 09/15/09 at 16:09:39:
Uh, well, on moves 2 and 3 there are numerous other things White can play, like 2. Nc3, the Trompovsky, 2. Nf3 with the idea of 2...c5 3. d5 (often not followed by c4), 2. Nf3 with the idea of 2...c5 3. c3, 2. Nf3 with the idea of 2...c5 3. e3, 3. Nf3, 3. e3 ...


I hope Palliser will write something about this continuation in his book.
http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/How_to_Play_against_1d4
  

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Reply #1 - 09/15/09 at 16:09:39
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Well, there was a Yearbook article by Steve Giddins a little while back, but naturally it only addressed certain lines.

Uh, well, on moves 2 and 3 there are numerous other things White can play, like 2. Nc3, the Trompovsky, 2. Nf3 with the idea of 2...c5 3. d5 (often not followed by c4), 2. Nf3 with the idea of 2...c5 3. c3, 2. Nf3 with the idea of 2...c5 3. e3, 3. Nf3, 3. e3 ...
  
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09/15/09 at 15:36:31
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I'm thinking about playing the Czech Benoni.
In his DVD Andrew Martin seems to cover d4 Nf6 c4 c5 d5 e5.
Does anyone have an opinion about this DVD ?
What additionale sidelines (at move 2 and 3 do I need to know ?
Are there big holes / problems ?
And any other good sources ?

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