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Reply #15 - 01/20/10 at 13:24:29
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Matemax wrote on 01/20/10 at 07:17:00:
Sokolov gives 11...Qf5 as the critical variation and has analysis over serveral pages. He rejects 11...Qf4? and also thinks that 11...Qc5 is not sufficient. Furthermore he gives 11...Qh4? and 11...Qa5 (should be an interesting try).


Well I will be thrilled if that turns out to be true.  I await my copy of this book with great eagerness.

I do think it's quite interesting to see a strong GM arguing in favor of these defenses that the chess world has largely pooh-poohed.  If I were a partisan of White's side of the Spanish, I'd be sure to get myself a copy of this book.
  

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Reply #14 - 01/20/10 at 07:17:00
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Markovic says (in a thread some time ago):
Well, I must say that it's exasperating to have posted here many times how, after 1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 Nc6  3. Bb4 f5  4. Nc3 fxe4  5. Nxe4 d5  6. Nxe5 dxe4  7. Nxc6 Qg5 (some call this the "Classical" Schliemann) 8. Qe2 Nf6, White's strongest and best is not the highly reputed and often-exclam-adorned 9. f4, but 9. Nxa7+! when 9...Bd7  10. Bxd7+ Nxd7 (10...Kxd7  11. Qb5+ is better for White) 11. f4! and to see this line repeatedly ignored when the Schliemann is taken up in the updates!  One key observation is that 11...Qxf4 transposes into a version of 9. f4 Qxf4  10. Nxa7 where Black has captured on d7 with the wrong piece.  Another is that Black's better 11...Qc5 12. Nb5 Qxc2 (useless is 12...0-0-0  13. Nc3 Nf6  14. a4! intending to run the a-pawn) 13. d4! Bb4+  14. Kf2 Qxe2+  15. Kxe2 and White has a comfortable, pawn-up ending.

Sokolov gives 11...Qf5 as the critical variation and has analysis over serveral pages. He rejects 11...Qf4? and also thinks that 11...Qc5 is not sufficient. Furthermore he gives 11...Qh4? and 11...Qa5 (should be an interesting try).
  
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Reply #13 - 01/19/10 at 20:33:15
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Great! Thanks.
  

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Reply #12 - 01/19/10 at 20:24:02
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MNb wrote on 01/19/10 at 20:18:01:
Keep me informed - if Sokolov indeed investigates 5...d5 I'll want it to. I have never liked 5...Nf6.


He treats both  Grin and also 5. ... Be7 (  Cheesy ) and 4. ... Nf6.

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Reply #11 - 01/19/10 at 20:21:39
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Markovich wrote on 01/19/10 at 19:04:21:
Maarten Koning wrote on 01/19/10 at 09:29:42:
If I am not mistaken Markovich always had a soft spot for the Schliemann, but stopped playing it because he didn't trust the 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 f5 4 Nc3 fxe4 5 Nxe4 d5 line anymore. Sokolov tries to revive that line, so I am very curious if Markovich agrees with Sokolovs judgment and analysis.


I don't have this book yet.  I plan to buy it, but if anyone in the mean time would care to say how Sokolov treats 9.Nxa7+, which in my view is the critical line, I would be interested.  But I thought 5...Nf6 and not 5...d5 was what Sokolov advocated.

P.S. I just ordered the book from Chess for Less, so I expect I'll have it in a week or so. 


He threats it very extensive. Very dense material not helped by the typesetting. What the value is of that analysis I can't tell but he also thinks 9 Nxa7 is critical.
  
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Reply #10 - 01/19/10 at 20:18:01
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Keep me informed - if Sokolov indeed investigates 5...d5 I'll want it too. I have never liked 5...Nf6.
  

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Reply #9 - 01/19/10 at 19:04:21
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Maarten Koning wrote on 01/19/10 at 09:29:42:
If I am not mistaken Markovich always had a soft spot for the Schliemann, but stopped playing it because he didn't trust the 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 f5 4 Nc3 fxe4 5 Nxe4 d5 line anymore. Sokolov tries to revive that line, so I am very curious if Markovich agrees with Sokolovs judgment and analysis.


I don't have this book yet.  I plan to buy it, but if anyone in the mean time would care to say how Sokolov treats 9.Nxa7+, which in my view is the critical line, I would be interested.  But I thought 5...Nf6 and not 5...d5 was what Sokolov advocated.

P.S. I just ordered the book from Chess for Less, so I expect I'll have it in a week or so.
  

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Reply #8 - 01/19/10 at 09:29:42
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If I am not mistaken Markovich always had a soft spot for the Schliemann, but stopped playing it because he didn't trust the 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 f5 4 Nc3 fxe4 5 Nxe4 d5 line anymore. Sokolov tries to revive that line, so I am very curious if Markovich agrees with Sokolovs judgment and analysis.
  
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Reply #7 - 01/08/10 at 05:37:50
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The book has arrived. Haven't had much time to look at it, but it looks good. A experienced GM saying: hey I played this stuff for quite some time and this is my take on what are in my eyes the critical lines.  Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - 01/05/10 at 10:53:32
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Thanks for the feedback. I have ordered the book!
  
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Reply #5 - 01/04/10 at 19:13:58
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This is another "New in Chess" great book in the line of "Chebanenko Slav" and "Flexible French". Another top class author presenting his ideas on an opening he knows.

I think every line of the book is well explained and therefore playable with both(!) colours. Don't forget that we mostly don't meet Karjakin, Anand or Leko who may blow us away (but would so in every other opening as well) but some mere mortals. I think that one can play all the lines in the book against any opposition (with White and Black).

White players get a good feeling for these offbeat lines that are mostly cut short in opening guides. Black players get the depht they need to have to play them.

So what does Sokolov really recommend for Black - well the "Classical Spanish" for sure (it´s the biggest part of the book) and also Smyslov's variation (3...g6). Furthermore he thinks that the Schliemann is completely sound at the moment and that even the Delayed Schliemann may be worth a try sometimes (even he think it is not sound in the end). Bird's defence and Cozio (3...Nge7) are not on that same level at the moment - they should lead to a small opening advantage for White.

Playing the Ruy with both colours I think this book will give me a better understanding of the lines without ...a6 and may even give me a boost to try some lines (especially if I know White goes for the Exchange Variation).

  
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Reply #4 - 12/24/09 at 14:24:47
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Its very pretty book.
Schliemann is very deeply covered (mainly 4.Nc3 fe4 5.Ne4 d5) but for sidelines and 4.d3 is better QualityChess book (or maybe old Yudasin's Schliemann gambit). Next chapters are very interesting too and very usable for everyone, but i found little scepticism from his comments and i am little lost thread, which defence Sokolov recommend for long time and which for only rarely using and fun.



  
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Reply #3 - 12/17/09 at 10:18:18
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Looking for feedback on this book.

Anybody?
  
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Reply #2 - 11/20/09 at 05:12:12
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There are a couple other books out about the Schliemann currently as well, including one from the usually excellent Quality Chess.
  
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Reply #1 - 11/20/09 at 02:26:46
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Thanks for this info.  I'm interested to see if he salvages the Cordel Gambit after 3..Bc5 4.c4 f5 5.d4 fxe4 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.Ne5.
  
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