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Reply #45 - 02/14/11 at 11:54:32
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That's already mentioned in the bibliography so it must be a different article?
  
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Reply #44 - 02/14/11 at 11:51:57
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Wasn't it in SOS 2 under the title 'The Fianchetto Spanish'?
  

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Reply #43 - 02/14/11 at 11:47:20
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Been looking at the RLR and in particular Smyslov Fianchetto Variation
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 g6
Was looking for some other sources and on the "Kenilworthian" blog there is a post by Michael Goeller (I think he posts on this board?) http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/kenilworthian/2009/03/repertoire-renovations.... that discusses related lines and has a bibliography, I have here reproduced the bibliography for this line:

Smyslov Variation of the Ruy Lopez (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 g6)

•Offbeat Spanish by Glenn Flear
•"The Solid but Tricky Fianchetto Spanish" by Glenn Flear in SOS #2.
•"Radulski's Ruy Lopez" in SOS #3
•Opening for White According to Anand, Volume 1, by Alexander Khalifman
•Beating the Ruy Lopez with the Fianchetto Variation by Andrew Soltis

Now my questions is this: I have been unable to find the mentioned article "Radulski's Ruy Lopez". It certainly isn't in SOS #3. Does anybody know where it's from?
  
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Reply #42 - 12/05/10 at 00:12:19
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I just noticed an amusing game in this book:

[Event "TCh-BIH"]
[Site "Neum BIH"]
[Date "2008.06.11"]
[EventDate "2008.06.04"]
[Round "8"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Kovacevic, A"]
[Black "Brkic, A"]
[ECO "C63"]
[WhiteElo "2616"]
[BlackElo "2521"]
[PlyCount "0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4. Nc3 fxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nxf6+ Qxf6 7. Qe2 Be7 8. Bxc6 dxc6 9. Nxe5 Bf5 10. d4 O-O-O 11. Be3 Bd6 12. O-O-O Bxe5 13. dxe5 Qxe5 14. c3 1/2-1/2

Strange game and even stranger that Sokolov doesn't notice 14.-Qe4 and curtains.

A rare mistake in a book with excellent analysis overall (as far as I can tell.)
  
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Reply #41 - 12/03/10 at 22:57:32
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At least 7.-Nd4 looks like a very playable alternative to the standard 7.-d6. 4.-Nc6 looks interesting as well as 6.-d6 in the 4.-fxe4 line so black seems to have quite a few options against 4.d3.
  
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Reply #40 - 12/03/10 at 16:27:19
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Brrr, castling Queenside is asking for b2-b4.
11.Bc4 d6 12.h3 Qe7 looks reasonable indeed.
  

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Reply #39 - 12/03/10 at 10:18:59
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MarkG, that is the line Andrew Greet gives in Play the Ruy Lopez. 8.c3 Nxf3 9.Qxf3 Be7 10.Nd2 c6 11.Ba4 d5 12.d4 which ends in a rather equal position in his line. Another option, maybe more challenging, is 12.Bb3 when interesting complications arise after 12.-Ne8 13.g4 g6.

MNb, yes 11.Bc4 might be better but black can go for the standard Qe7 and d6, and depending on circumstances Bg4 or Bd7 and long castling, or Be6 neutralising the bishop. I don't think black is in great trouble here.
  
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Reply #38 - 12/03/10 at 09:24:57
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You are not overlooking anything. 8.c3 Nxf3+ 9.Qxf3 can be found in my old books and also in the databases.
I only presented this game because a) not everybody has collected ICCF-games and b) because I thought it remarkable that the JS-Gambit was played in corr chess game and produced a win despite modern software.
I also play for ICCF and my rating is considerably lower than Shabaev's.

SteelyDanIII wrote on 12/02/10 at 22:59:20:
7.-Nd4 8.Nxd4 Bxd4 9.c3 Bb6 9.a4 a5 looks quite solid for black imo, i.e. 10.Nd2 0-0 11.Nc4 Ba7!? Perhaps white has a very tiny edge with accurate play.

Not after 12.Nc4 as Ba7 13.Nxe5 leads to nothing and the Knight will have to retreat.
11.Bc4 iso 11.Nd2 looks more challenging to me. How is Black going to finish development?
  

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Reply #37 - 12/03/10 at 01:46:22
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MNb wrote on 12/02/10 at 09:54:00:
I think 4...Nf6 more precise and after 5.0-0 not fxe4 6.dxe4 transposing, but 5...Bc5 6.exf5 0-0 7.Be3 Nd4.

A game from Silicon Era:

Shabaev,V (2170) - Koc,Z [C63]
WS/M/175 ICCF, 13.10.2008

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5 4.d3 Nf6 5.0-0 Bc5 6.exf5 0-0 7.Be3 Nd4 8.Ba4 d5 9.Nbd2 Ng4 10.Bxd4 exd4 11.h3 Nh6 12.g4 Nxf5 13.gxf5 Bxf5 14.Kg2 Bd6 15.Rh1 Qf6 16.Qe2 c6 17.Rae1 Qg6+ 18.Kf1 Qh6 19.Kg2 Rf6 20.h4 Bg4 21.Rh3 Qh5 0-1


8.Ba4 wouldn't be my first choice here though I understand the desire to keep this piece. I don't have an engine available right now so I may be overlooking something horrible, but if I got this over the board, I think I would play 8.c3 with the idea that Nxb5 runs into 9.Bxc5 d6 10.Qb3+ so it looks like black has to exchange on f3 when white preserves his light squared bishop anyway.
  
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Reply #36 - 12/02/10 at 22:59:20
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7.-Nd4 8.Nxd4 Bxd4 9.c3 [something like 9.Nd2 might lead to play similar to Svidler-Radjabov 2008, where white's queen was on d3 instead of e2.] 9.-Bb6 9.a4 a5 looks quite solid for black imo, i.e. 10.Nd2 0-0 11.Nc4 Ba7!? Perhaps white has a very tiny edge with accurate play.

Sokolov shows some interesting ideas in 6.-d6 which look fully playable as well.

4.-Nd4 is not covered. 4.-Nf6 neither which is kind of strange in such a detailed book and the line you mention with 7.Be3 Nd4 I did not see, but by transposition from another chapter you can find the position after 7.Nc3 Nd4 where Sokolov seems pretty optimistic about black's compensation for the pawn. 4.-Nf6 looks like a decent alternative to 4.-fxe4, though the top guns seem to favour the latter. I've been doing a little research and at least there seems to be lots of room for investigation. I'm rather curious to see what Brunello says about these variations in his book.
  
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Reply #35 - 12/02/10 at 09:54:00
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7...Nd4 8.Nxd4 Bxd4 9.c3 Bb6 10.a4 looks good for White.
After 6...d6 Black must be worse with that passive King's Bishop.
Another transposition begins with 4...Nd4. Is it mentioned by Sokolov? I think 4...Nf6 more precise and after 5.0-0 not fxe4 6.dxe4 transposing, but 5...Bc5 6.exf5 0-0 7.Be3 Nd4.

A game from Silicon Era:

Shabaev,V (2170) - Koc,Z [C63]
WS/M/175 ICCF, 13.10.2008

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5 4.d3 Nf6 5.0-0 Bc5 6.exf5 0-0 7.Be3 Nd4 8.Ba4 d5 9.Nbd2 Ng4 10.Bxd4 exd4 11.h3 Nh6 12.g4 Nxf5 13.gxf5 Bxf5 14.Kg2 Bd6 15.Rh1 Qf6 16.Qe2 c6 17.Rae1 Qg6+ 18.Kf1 Qh6 19.Kg2 Rf6 20.h4 Bg4 21.Rh3 Qh5 0-1
  

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Reply #34 - 12/02/10 at 01:44:34
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I've been going through the chapters on the Janisch gambit in this book. Quite impressive analysis but the coverage on 4.d3 is a bit wet compared to other chapters. 4.-Nf6 isn't even mentioned, though the main line after 5.0-0 Bc5 6.exf5 0-0 7.Nc3 can be found by transposition in the 4.Nc3 Nf6 chapter, but with earlier deviations missing.

I was also curious about a variation I studied a while back from the white side: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 f5 4.d3 fxe4 5.dxe4 Nf6 6.0-0 Bc5 7.Qe2 d6 8.Qc4 Qe7 which has been reached by some super-GMs, Sokolov doesn't mention the move 9.b4 which looks strong. The following moves look forced: 9.-Be6 10.Bxc6 bxc6 11.Qa6 Bb6 12.a4 and then it seems to me that black has to go in for 12.-Nxe4 13.a5 Bxf2 14.Rxf2 Nxf2 15.Qxc6 Kf7 16.Kxf2 and white looks better. It's a difficult position to assess though, maybe I'm wrong. 12.-0-0 13.a5 Qf7 14.axb6 Bc4 15.Qa3 Bxf1 16.b7! looks worse.

If this holds up I think black might do better to deviate earlier with maybe 7.-Nd4!? (which Sokolov mentions but doesn't analyse) or 6.-d6.


  
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Reply #33 - 03/22/10 at 19:38:41
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Thank you for providing the link!
  
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Reply #32 - 03/20/10 at 12:45:40
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Markovich wrote on 03/18/10 at 15:11:46:
Rimfaxe wrote on 03/18/10 at 14:27:35:
If you want to learn the classical defence your could start with this article.
http://correspondencechess.com/campbell/hard/h990517.htm

It is quite old but very good, and a good place to start learning the classical defence. And it is free!

I don't think any books published for many years have so good a coverage of the Classical Spanish as these articles, and after all I don't think theory have changed much during the last decade in this opening anyway.


I'm flattered by that, but anyone should be very careful, because I have since discovered that the method of play I recommended after 5.Nxe5 is not sound in all variations.  I explained why some time ago in a thread here, but it's too much trouble to unearth it.

Also since that writeup is old, there is scant treatment of White's popular Qd3 in the more positional line.  Contrary to your assertion, theory has moved forward.  You could take my work as an intro, but I would recommend you look at the updates here and also get Sokolov's Spanish book.


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Reply #31 - 03/18/10 at 17:25:01
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The c3, d4 Bg5, Qd3 line threw me off the Classical.  I would much rather play a standard closed Spanish than those positions for Black.

I think the soundest systems in Sokolov's book are Smyslov's 3...g6 and the Schliemann and would recommend Smyslov's line over the Schliemann due to the latter leading to several slightly worse but holdable endings for black and in general being a giant theoretical black hole.
  
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Reply #30 - 03/18/10 at 15:11:46
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Rimfaxe wrote on 03/18/10 at 14:27:35:
If you want to learn the classical defence your could start with this article.
http://correspondencechess.com/campbell/hard/h990517.htm

It is quite old but very good, and a good place to start learning the classical defence. And it is free!

I don't think any books published for many years have so good a coverage of the Classical Spanish as these articles, and after all I don't think theory have changed much during the last decade in this opening anyway.


I'm flattered by that, but anyone should be very careful, because I have since discovered that the method of play I recommended after 5.Nxe5 is not sound in all variations.  I explained why some time ago in a thread here, but it's too much trouble to unearth it.

Also since that writeup is old, there is scant treatment of White's popular Qd3 in the more positional line.  Contrary to your assertion, theory has moved forward.  You could take my work as an intro, but I would recommend you look at the updates here and also get Sokolov's Spanish book.
  

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Reply #29 - 03/18/10 at 14:27:35
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If you want to learn the classical defence your could start with this article.
http://correspondencechess.com/campbell/hard/h990517.htm

It is quite old but very good, and a good place to start learning the classical defence. And it is free!

I don't think any books published for many years have so good a coverage of the Classical Spanish as these articles, and after all I don't think theory have changed much during the last decade in this opening anyway.
  
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Reply #28 - 03/15/10 at 23:00:31
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Matemax wrote on 03/15/10 at 22:10:19:
Fromper wrote on 03/15/10 at 22:00:16:
So what's the verdict on this book? Worth getting for a 1700 player who's tired of banging out 12 moves of the mainline Ruy Lopez against opponents my own level, only for both of us to sit there wondering what to do next?


too complicated for 1700 - you should get Watson's books

??? What's too complicated for a 1700? The mainline RL, or the less common lines in this book? Or are the lines in this book ok, but the book itself is too complicated? And which books by Watson are you referring to?
  

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Reply #27 - 03/15/10 at 22:10:19
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Fromper wrote on 03/15/10 at 22:00:16:
So what's the verdict on this book? Worth getting for a 1700 player who's tired of banging out 12 moves of the mainline Ruy Lopez against opponents my own level, only for both of us to sit there wondering what to do next?


too complicated for 1700 - you should get Watson's books
  
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Reply #26 - 03/15/10 at 22:00:16
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So what's the verdict on this book? Worth getting for a 1700 player who's tired of banging out 12 moves of the mainline Ruy Lopez against opponents my own level, only for both of us to sit there wondering what to do next?

  

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Reply #25 - 01/24/10 at 18:33:56
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Talking of Greet's book. He recomends 8.Bb3 in the Main Line of the Bird's. This is also not covered in  Sokolov's book. Neither is it mentioned in Flear's old 'Offbeat Spanish' or more amazingly Dangerous weapons 1.e4 e5 which Greet himself co-authored BIZARE!!!!!

Any comments! Shocked
  
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Reply #24 - 01/22/10 at 10:12:41
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 01/20/10 at 19:09:13:
Matemax wrote on 01/20/10 at 07:17:00:
Markovic says (in a thread some time ago):
Well, I must say that it's exasperating to have posted here many times how, after 1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 Nc6  3. Bb4 f5  4. Nc3 fxe4  5. Nxe4 d5  6. Nxe5 dxe4  7. Nxc6 Qg5 (some call this the "Classical" Schliemann) 8. Qe2 Nf6, White's strongest and best is not the highly reputed and often-exclam-adorned 9. f4, but 9. Nxa7+! [...]

I'd be interested to learn what Sokolov recommends against Hugo Süchting's 8.Nd4+! c6 9.Bf1!. In Kaissiber 7 (1998) I had expressed my sympathy for this line, accompanied by analyses. Has Black really enough for the pawn?

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Reply #23 - 01/21/10 at 05:19:46
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TonyRo wrote on 01/20/10 at 21:28:59:
It seems as though these days, the stronger the player, the less there is in the bibliography. Chess Stars Bibliography's are extraordinarily small, and it doesn't surprise me that this one is any different.


It adds to the impression that most GM's rely a  lot more on their own research rather then on literature then we patzers think. I read more then once that a GM stated that he just needed one good book (recent wasn't necessairy) for the basics and a database (and nowadays an engine I would assume) to research a new opening.   
  
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Reply #22 - 01/20/10 at 21:28:59
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It seems as though these days, the stronger the player, the less there is in the bibliography. Chess Stars Bibliography's are extraordinarily small, and it doesn't surprise me that this one is any different.
  
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Reply #21 - 01/20/10 at 20:56:40
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No bibliography and no mention of Kaissiber? I am shocked.
  
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Reply #20 - 01/20/10 at 20:39:53
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tafl wrote on 01/20/10 at 19:42:41:
One curious detail in Sokolov's book is that after 3...Bc5 he doesn't seem to consider Greet's 4.Nxe5!? at all (but after 4.0-0 Nf6 he considers 4.Nxe5 in great detail).


Well in a way it is an odd book. Sometimes he covers a lot of ground sometimes his approach is very narrow. There is no bibliography and I haven't met any references to others books. I have the impression that the book is just the result of Sokolov and a database.

To his defence 4. Nxe5!? seems a minor line while 5. Nxe5 is quite mainstream theory. And 4. Nxe5!? can be "avoided" by the Berlin moveorder.
  
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Reply #19 - 01/20/10 at 19:42:41
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One curious detail in Sokolov's book is that after 3...Bc5 he doesn't seem to consider Greet's 4.Nxe5!? at all (but after 4.0-0 Nf6 he considers 4.Nxe5 in great detail).
  

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Reply #18 - 01/20/10 at 19:09:13
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Matemax wrote on 01/20/10 at 07:17:00:
Markovic says (in a thread some time ago):
Well, I must say that it's exasperating to have posted here many times how, after 1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 Nc6  3. Bb4 f5  4. Nc3 fxe4  5. Nxe4 d5  6. Nxe5 dxe4  7. Nxc6 Qg5 (some call this the "Classical" Schliemann) 8. Qe2 Nf6, White's strongest and best is not the highly reputed and often-exclam-adorned 9. f4, but 9. Nxa7+! [...]

I'd be interested to learn what Sokolov recommends against Hugo Süchting's 8.Nd4+! c6 9.Bf1!. In Kaissiber 7 (1998) I had expressed my sympathy for this line, accompanied by analyses. Has Black really enough for the pawn?
  
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Reply #17 - 01/20/10 at 17:21:30
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Well I have been looking at bit and pieces (mainly Jaenisch/Schliemann and Bird stuff) but now I'm going to look at the part which was my main motivation for buying the book: The Classical variation. Just dusted of my Offbeat Spanish by Flear (2000) and the 2 Hard Chess columns (1999) for reference. A quick scan seems to indicate that nothing specific has been published on the Classical since then  Shocked.
  
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Reply #16 - 01/20/10 at 15:08:04
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If I were a partisan of White's side of the Spanish, I'd be sure to get myself a copy of this book.

That's what I did Wink
(even I play the Ruy with both colours but haven't played the Schliemann for more than 10 years with Black - well "times are a....chaiaching" lalala)
  
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Reply #15 - 01/20/10 at 13:24:29
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Matemax wrote on 01/20/10 at 07:17:00:
Sokolov gives 11...Qf5 as the critical variation and has analysis over serveral pages. He rejects 11...Qf4? and also thinks that 11...Qc5 is not sufficient. Furthermore he gives 11...Qh4? and 11...Qa5 (should be an interesting try).


Well I will be thrilled if that turns out to be true.  I await my copy of this book with great eagerness.

I do think it's quite interesting to see a strong GM arguing in favor of these defenses that the chess world has largely pooh-poohed.  If I were a partisan of White's side of the Spanish, I'd be sure to get myself a copy of this book.
  

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Reply #14 - 01/20/10 at 07:17:00
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Markovic says (in a thread some time ago):
Well, I must say that it's exasperating to have posted here many times how, after 1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 Nc6  3. Bb4 f5  4. Nc3 fxe4  5. Nxe4 d5  6. Nxe5 dxe4  7. Nxc6 Qg5 (some call this the "Classical" Schliemann) 8. Qe2 Nf6, White's strongest and best is not the highly reputed and often-exclam-adorned 9. f4, but 9. Nxa7+! when 9...Bd7  10. Bxd7+ Nxd7 (10...Kxd7  11. Qb5+ is better for White) 11. f4! and to see this line repeatedly ignored when the Schliemann is taken up in the updates!  One key observation is that 11...Qxf4 transposes into a version of 9. f4 Qxf4  10. Nxa7 where Black has captured on d7 with the wrong piece.  Another is that Black's better 11...Qc5 12. Nb5 Qxc2 (useless is 12...0-0-0  13. Nc3 Nf6  14. a4! intending to run the a-pawn) 13. d4! Bb4+  14. Kf2 Qxe2+  15. Kxe2 and White has a comfortable, pawn-up ending.

Sokolov gives 11...Qf5 as the critical variation and has analysis over serveral pages. He rejects 11...Qf4? and also thinks that 11...Qc5 is not sufficient. Furthermore he gives 11...Qh4? and 11...Qa5 (should be an interesting try).
  
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Reply #13 - 01/19/10 at 20:33:15
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Great! Thanks.
  

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MNb wrote on 01/19/10 at 20:18:01:
Keep me informed - if Sokolov indeed investigates 5...d5 I'll want it to. I have never liked 5...Nf6.


He treats both  Grin and also 5. ... Be7 (  Cheesy ) and 4. ... Nf6.

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http://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/PDFs/RLR.pdf

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Markovich wrote on 01/19/10 at 19:04:21:
Maarten Koning wrote on 01/19/10 at 09:29:42:
If I am not mistaken Markovich always had a soft spot for the Schliemann, but stopped playing it because he didn't trust the 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 f5 4 Nc3 fxe4 5 Nxe4 d5 line anymore. Sokolov tries to revive that line, so I am very curious if Markovich agrees with Sokolovs judgment and analysis.


I don't have this book yet.  I plan to buy it, but if anyone in the mean time would care to say how Sokolov treats 9.Nxa7+, which in my view is the critical line, I would be interested.  But I thought 5...Nf6 and not 5...d5 was what Sokolov advocated.

P.S. I just ordered the book from Chess for Less, so I expect I'll have it in a week or so. 


He threats it very extensive. Very dense material not helped by the typesetting. What the value is of that analysis I can't tell but he also thinks 9 Nxa7 is critical.
  
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Keep me informed - if Sokolov indeed investigates 5...d5 I'll want it too. I have never liked 5...Nf6.
  

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Maarten Koning wrote on 01/19/10 at 09:29:42:
If I am not mistaken Markovich always had a soft spot for the Schliemann, but stopped playing it because he didn't trust the 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 f5 4 Nc3 fxe4 5 Nxe4 d5 line anymore. Sokolov tries to revive that line, so I am very curious if Markovich agrees with Sokolovs judgment and analysis.


I don't have this book yet.  I plan to buy it, but if anyone in the mean time would care to say how Sokolov treats 9.Nxa7+, which in my view is the critical line, I would be interested.  But I thought 5...Nf6 and not 5...d5 was what Sokolov advocated.

P.S. I just ordered the book from Chess for Less, so I expect I'll have it in a week or so.
  

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If I am not mistaken Markovich always had a soft spot for the Schliemann, but stopped playing it because he didn't trust the 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 f5 4 Nc3 fxe4 5 Nxe4 d5 line anymore. Sokolov tries to revive that line, so I am very curious if Markovich agrees with Sokolovs judgment and analysis.
  
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Reply #7 - 01/08/10 at 05:37:50
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The book has arrived. Haven't had much time to look at it, but it looks good. A experienced GM saying: hey I played this stuff for quite some time and this is my take on what are in my eyes the critical lines.  Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - 01/05/10 at 10:53:32
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Thanks for the feedback. I have ordered the book!
  
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Reply #5 - 01/04/10 at 19:13:58
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This is another "New in Chess" great book in the line of "Chebanenko Slav" and "Flexible French". Another top class author presenting his ideas on an opening he knows.

I think every line of the book is well explained and therefore playable with both(!) colours. Don't forget that we mostly don't meet Karjakin, Anand or Leko who may blow us away (but would so in every other opening as well) but some mere mortals. I think that one can play all the lines in the book against any opposition (with White and Black).

White players get a good feeling for these offbeat lines that are mostly cut short in opening guides. Black players get the depht they need to have to play them.

So what does Sokolov really recommend for Black - well the "Classical Spanish" for sure (it´s the biggest part of the book) and also Smyslov's variation (3...g6). Furthermore he thinks that the Schliemann is completely sound at the moment and that even the Delayed Schliemann may be worth a try sometimes (even he think it is not sound in the end). Bird's defence and Cozio (3...Nge7) are not on that same level at the moment - they should lead to a small opening advantage for White.

Playing the Ruy with both colours I think this book will give me a better understanding of the lines without ...a6 and may even give me a boost to try some lines (especially if I know White goes for the Exchange Variation).

  
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Reply #4 - 12/24/09 at 14:24:47
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Its very pretty book.
Schliemann is very deeply covered (mainly 4.Nc3 fe4 5.Ne4 d5) but for sidelines and 4.d3 is better QualityChess book (or maybe old Yudasin's Schliemann gambit). Next chapters are very interesting too and very usable for everyone, but i found little scepticism from his comments and i am little lost thread, which defence Sokolov recommend for long time and which for only rarely using and fun.



  
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Reply #3 - 12/17/09 at 10:18:18
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Looking for feedback on this book.

Anybody?
  
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Reply #2 - 11/20/09 at 05:12:12
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There are a couple other books out about the Schliemann currently as well, including one from the usually excellent Quality Chess.
  
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Thanks for this info.  I'm interested to see if he salvages the Cordel Gambit after 3..Bc5 4.c4 f5 5.d4 fxe4 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.Ne5.
  
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11/19/09 at 11:05:47
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Out now

http://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/PDFs/RLR.pdf

In a way you could see this as an update of Glenn Flear's Offbeat Spanish as except for the Berlin Wall almost the same variations are covered.

I had pledged to stop buying opening books but this looks mighty tempting!
  
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