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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #8 - 09/12/10 at 11:55:28
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iris wrote on 12/08/09 at 00:13:39:
The Larsen line of the Classical 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 Cd4 4.Nd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bg5 Bd7 seems to be in trouble..after 7.Qd2 Rc8 (8.f4! Nd4 9.Qd4 Qa5 10.e5 was the Alsina Leal-Dreev 2009,1-0 crush)8.O-O-O Nd4 9.Qd4 Qa5 and it seems that just about anything gives white an add..10.Be3,10.h4  Undecided...but I really do not have an answer to 10.Bd2!..this best I can find are some inferior endgames of Dreevs...any help with 10.Bd2 would be appreciated!..


Bad news for supporters of 6...Bd7: after playing the Hyper-Accelerated Dragon for most of his youth, Malakhov has been playing 6...Bd7 for quite a while (Dreev's influence) but now seeems to have abandoned it for (of all things) the old Berlin with 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.0-0 Nxe4 5.d4 Be7 6.Qe2 Nd6 7.Bxc6 bxc6 8.dxe5 Nb7.  Roll Eyes

Whether sound or not, Black's game after 6...Bd7 is difficult. However Kozul and others are still playing 6...e6 7 Qd2 a6 8 0-0-0 Bd7.

Top players have not played the Classical much in recent years, but it is a fairly safe bet that the fashion will swing back as soon as one elite player starts adopting it regularly again. Such a sound-looking system, played by e.g. Botvinnik and Spassky at World Championship level, just has to be playable!
  
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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #7 - 09/11/10 at 22:45:33
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after Bd2 it looks like ......b5 is the best try for black, it makes white react.  a6 is prolly too slow.  not looking at a board but that is what it would seem like to me.
  
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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #6 - 12/21/09 at 01:44:25
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I have no idea. After 6.Be2 I would transpose to the Dragon with ...g6 - I always liked that for Black - and 6.f3 e5 does not seem a problem to me either.
  

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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #5 - 12/21/09 at 01:26:01
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MNb wrote on 12/21/09 at 01:20:56:
Does this defence provide equality and perhaps even winning chances?
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 a6
One might call this the Kramnik-Shishkin Variation.

10.f4
White can activate the other bishop with 10.Bc4 when Qc7 11.f4 (perhaps 11.Bb3 idea b5 12.Rhe1) b5 12.Bb3 Qc5 looks like an equalizer. I could not find much against 11...h6 either.

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This is the current main line that "everyone" is playing the last year or so, isn't it? I can't really comment on the theory; I moved away from the Classical Sicilian because I disliked some of the minor lines (6.Be2 and 6.f3).
  

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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #4 - 12/21/09 at 01:20:56
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Does this defence provide equality and perhaps even winning chances?
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 a6
One might call this the Kramnik-Shishkin Variation.

10.f4
White can activate the other bishop with 10.Bc4 when Qc7 11.f4 (perhaps 11.Bb3 idea b5 12.Rhe1) b5 12.Bb3 Qc5 looks like an equalizer. I could not find much against 11...h6 either.

10...b5 11.Bxf6
11.e5 dxe5 is not convincing.
11.Be2 Bb7 12.Bf3 Rc8 13.Bxf6 gxf5 14.f5 Qa5!?
The text move is Kasparov's choice. Again Black has to play a kind of Botvinnik setup (7...h6 8.Bxf6 gxf6) and again it seems to be an improved version.

11...gxf6 12.Bd3 Qc7
Perhaps Black can do without this move and play 12...Bb7 instead. Pawn e6 remains sensitive.

13.Qe3 Qc5 14.Qg3
14.Qh3 b4 15.Ne2 Bb7 idea 16...0-0-0.

14...b4 15.Ne2 Kf8 16.Kb1 a5 17.Rc1 a4
Black has developed counterplay. His pair of bishops are an important trump on long term.
Hartman-Atalik, EUchT 2000
Alekseev-Stefansson, EUch-4 Istanbul 2004
This approach is more direct than Kramnik's choice 17...h5 against Kasparaov, Amsterdam VSB 1996.
Any comments?
  

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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #3 - 12/15/09 at 20:34:26
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Isn't this just another reason to prefer Csom's move order 6...e6 7.Qd2 Nxd4 8.Qxd4 Bd7 with similar ideas and a possible transposition?
  

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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #2 - 12/13/09 at 14:23:49
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I second that. I have played 8.f4 for some time now and it it leads to quite attractive positions for white I think.
  
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Re: Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
Reply #1 - 12/08/09 at 09:47:38
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8.f4! is the recommendation in "Dismantling the Sicilian" - and it looks good indeed. De la Villa states a += for White
  
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Classical-Larsen 6...Bd7 seems in trouble
12/08/09 at 00:13:39
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The Larsen line of the Classical 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 Cd4 4.Nd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bg5 Bd7 seems to be in trouble..after 7.Qd2 Rc8 (8.f4! Nd4 9.Qd4 Qa5 10.e5 was the Alsina Leal-Dreev 2009,1-0 crush)8.O-O-O Nd4 9.Qd4 Qa5 and it seems that just about anything gives white an add..10.Be3,10.h4  Undecided...but I really do not have an answer to 10.Bd2!..this best I can find are some inferior endgames of Dreevs...any help with 10.Bd2 would be appreciated!..
  
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