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Reply #50 - 02/15/10 at 15:00:09
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All of you that has studied microeconomics and utilility, to you this is clear but for all the rest one have to explain why someone chooses to buy instead of getting for free.

As I studied this I have to admit it is still far from clear. To say it directly: Empirical it's wrong. And it's easy to explain from Darwin's point of view: Survival of the fittest is not survival of the strongest. It is survival of those best fitting to an enviroment or being able to adapt to it (very often by social organisation). Or as we're talking about a war game here (=chess): Read Sun Tzi or Mao Tse Tung. You will understand why microeconomics doesn't predict economical behavior and macroeconomical development.

I stopped buying cd's and music when copy protection came on stealing my right to deal fun with my friends. Now I buy only music without copy protection. And I bought till today every chess book I work with (inclusive the chesspublishing files) and some more. Chesspublishing sells their files for personal use. The day they declare that it's forbidden to give to a personal known chess friend the copy of a page covering a special line or a copy of a single digit number of games, the day I will stop using it. With regret, because it's good stuff, but I'll stop. Same holds for private copies with every mental usable material.

CB has just shown first reactions. Via amazon you can buy a Fritz 12 version with 3 month premium mebership on their server for ~27 € instead of the official 49 € and the new chessbase mega pack is legally on the market for 202 €. If they continue to do good work for the community of chess players this community will continue to buy their products to reasonable prices. No need to complain for anyone.
  

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Reply #49 - 02/14/10 at 22:17:49
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i agree the dvd feels to dry when you compare to the book as many lines is not their on the dvd. But still I rather look at Victors video than The humble WORLD CHAMPION Rustam K, who really shows no interest at all in chess. Rustam talks about the gambitline of you know which against the samisch, but i still hate to turn the dvd on becuase the is not one gram of love in RK material, but being World champion is of course cool.

This is something I wrote in another thread, and ok I will never BUY world champion super granmaster Rustam K DVD on KI. Never! Ok so im a bad? Well if I had bought it from chessbase and found out that it is sole crap on their i would be very dissapointed the my deliveryfirm Chessbase! Ok so now I am pissed on chessbase and it is time to renewal my annual cbm....................call me thief, anyone of you could get my phone number and we can discuss this forever. I think one can earn money on chess, but the profit is decided by customers not the firms. All of you that has studied microeconomics and utilility, to you this is clear but for all the rest one have to explain why someone chooses to buy instead of getting for free.

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Reply #48 - 02/14/10 at 21:44:45
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Sorry for being really honest here, but one have to see the whole picture. I work with business develpment and bnig ones sees it as to low quality of a product if it is NOT on rapidshare, bittorrent and so on. So being there assures some value. Another argument is that many people have the opinon of bying what is really good, like music of leonard cohen i have downloaded at all but after i bought them all. Actually Leonard likes when many people listen to his music, and if there is someone who likes to hear his music and cant pay the 20$ for the cd, let him have it for free! Ok he is buddist munk but it still says alot about his passion and geniune love for music. Many chessauthors here are concerned about peolle bying their books. Well first i dont play dragon and if i would i would look at what has been played, and then find a bokk thats suits my moves. Then i need a recomendation from someone should i buy the terrific kosten book or go for Kasparovs book(fictive)? Well it certanly would help if EVERY chess forum where writing on both books to give opnions about moves and the different lines.  I would only buy a book from someone who shows big love and a geniune passion for the sport of chess, not someone who produces 15 dvds/ a year on all the big openings.

Take for instance Victor Bologans book. Of course a lot of people have downloaded it for free. BUT i think victor knows that if he comes home to a random KI player over 1800, he has ALSO bought the book. Because the best would like to have in real. I mean it is cool to see pamela andersson having sex on dvd but i would prefer to have the product in physicalform and not as jpeg.

Well dear athors of material, do you have the love for the game to make people pay what they can get for free? ell do you make new freinds on facebook or do you turn them down?

Remember people still buys MGP1-5 and they do a good profit on it. But i bought all the books, and then i wanted them as cbh-file. Should i pay for the annotaions(all games are free) twice?




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ps. chesspublishing is not avalible on any torrents(if I were you i would be really concearned here about the brand), but chessbase cbm are. Which is the better the product? -Who knows there is only cbm

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Reply #47 - 01/25/10 at 13:50:57
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It is not only the price of Mega databse that is outrageous. Have you seen the ChessBase's price policy when it comes to new DVDs - 32,90 € and above.
Ridiculous!
  

What kind of proof is that?
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Reply #46 - 01/11/10 at 11:05:00
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Mortal Games wrote on 12/25/09 at 18:39:56:
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I agree. Not only on music industry but on literature too. A famous author in Brasil (Paulo Coelho) had an idea of combating pirates by putting all is books for free on his site and when argued about this if he will loose money, he said that in that way more people will know, discuss and read his works and he will sell more!


I read an article, written a few months ago, that summed up the results of different studies of the effects of piracy in the music industry. The conclusion was that there were positive effects for relatively unknown artists, while for famous artists, the effects were negative. I wouldn't be surprised if the same goes for chess authors. Dvoretsky would hardly gain much from the extra publicity, as many chess players have already read some of his books, but "mr. unknown IM from a distant land" could probably increase his sales a lot by showing people, for free, that he is actually an excellent author.

The article also discussed the movie industry, where piracy is a newer phenomenon due to the large file sizes, and less studies have been done, but the conclusion drawn from the existing material seemed to be exclusively negative. The reason is probably that music is something you can listen to over and over again, while a movie is rarely the same when you watch it for the second time. Thus, you are more likely to buy a music CD after you have listened to a pirated version, than to buy a movie DVD after watching a pirated version. I suspect chess books fall somewhere in between music and movies in this respect.
  
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Reply #45 - 01/07/10 at 12:57:01
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LondonChessCentre wrote on 01/02/10 at 19:33:51:
It should have been £44.95 (50 Euros approx) or £89.95 (100 Euros approx) Apologies if a staff member overcharged you

Please pop in and get a refund sometime

Malcolm Pein


Popped in yesterday and bought it (along with CT.Art 4.0) after hearing of your posting (didn't have access while in Hastings).
  
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Reply #44 - 01/04/10 at 03:56:05
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Iphones can now be taken to the toilet even more easily than a book.

Not that I would know from personal experience, or anything.

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Reply #43 - 01/03/10 at 23:28:16
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Chess books can be read on the toilet.  Chessbase can't.  Of course one can bring one's laptop into the bathroom with him but that is not to be recommended.
  
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Reply #42 - 01/02/10 at 19:33:51
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It should have been £44.95 (50 Euros approx) or £89.95 (100 Euros approx) Apologies if a staff member overcharged you

Please pop in and get a refund sometime

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Reply #41 - 12/25/09 at 18:39:56
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I agree. Not only on music industry but on literature too. A famous author in Brasil (Paulo Coelho) had an idea of combating pirates by putting all is books for free on his site and when argued about this if he will loose money, he said that in that way more people will know, discuss and read his works and he will sell more!
  

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Reply #40 - 12/25/09 at 13:41:57
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 12/22/09 at 13:10:12:
TN wrote on 12/21/09 at 05:49:53:

Better still, even people without friends can now get Mega Database. The day Mega Database 2010 was released, it was available for free at BigTorrent.

Why spend so much on a product that is widely available for free? I suspect more and more people will stop buying Mega 2010 and switch to free downloads, which wouldn't be great news for ChessBase.

I don't really understand this attitude, ChessBase have to employ someone and pay him money to produce MegaBase. Surely they should be entitled to charge the price they feel is necessary to cover their costs and allow them a small profit? If you want the article then pay for it, if not there is absolutely no way one can justify stealing it.
I wonder if they have been forced to up the price because so many people thieve it? So the honest people have to pay more because of the dishonest ones? Sad

As far as I can tell, ChessBase haven't upped the price - it's down to Chess & Bridge.
  
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Thats what i searched for long time
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Reply #38 - 12/23/09 at 13:19:54
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Stigma wrote on 12/22/09 at 15:08:55:
Antillian wrote on 12/22/09 at 14:52:11:
Fear of piracy is the reason that most chess book publishers will not follow Everyman Chess' model of releasing ebooks. The whole book publishing model is archaic and needlessly redundant when you think about it. Writers spend hours putting games into Chessbase. Publishers then spend hours converting the  chessbase files into hard paper. Buyers then spend hours entering the games on the hard paper back into chessbase as they study them and analyse them. Isn't this madness?


I think everybody does this to some extent (If not, what would be the point of a program like Bookup/COW?!) but still the copyright warning in many books mentions "storing [any part of this publication] in a retrieval system" as illegal without prior permission! Even productive author John Watson admitted in one of his book reviews to spending countless hours manually inputing book lines into Chessbase.

So this particular aspect of copyright law is pretty much a joke.


Personally I would be very happy to pay extra for pgn files of book content.  I suppose the reason these aren't created is the risk of piracy.  But god, the waste of time involved in the current system is enormous.

BTW I don't think that entering chess data from a book into a data base falls under "fair use," however much they would like to keep you from doing so.  What you can't do is do that and then sell it, and I suspect that if you tried to give it away on any sort of scale they could get you for that as well.
  

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Reply #37 - 12/23/09 at 11:00:45
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Unfortunately it requests that I install an application and I don't have administrator rights at work - anyway, back to solving tactics  Wink
  

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Reply #36 - 12/23/09 at 08:58:42
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chk wrote on 12/23/09 at 08:48:15:
Antillian wrote on 12/22/09 at 14:26:42:
Well Chessbase used to have a free online database.


That probably explains why I visited the site today, only to find that "service is unavailable"..

Anyone knows if this is only temporary? I use a lot this database when I'm at work (it's one of the few useful chess sources I am allowed to access)  Sad


If you access it thru the cb-databaseprogram it works (edit/Find position in/Find in www.chessbase-online.com)
  
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Antillian wrote on 12/22/09 at 14:26:42:
Well Chessbase used to have a free online database.


That probably explains why I visited the site today, only to find that "service is unavailable"..

Anyone knows if this is only temporary? I use a lot this database when I'm at work (it's one of the few useful chess sources I am allowed to access)  Sad
  

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Reply #34 - 12/23/09 at 01:25:56
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 12/22/09 at 13:10:12:
If you want the article then pay for it, if not there is absolutely no way one can justify stealing it.


Generally speaking yes, but if I want to pay for something that is not for sale anymore I don't have many scruples to get it illegally.
  

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Reply #33 - 12/22/09 at 20:13:32
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I subscribe to openingmaster. The games are not annotated but I get all the CC games etc. I had an old megabase and twic updates and I found that openingmaster is more complete.
Their site leaves something to be desired but I have had zero issues with their databases etc.
  

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Reply #32 - 12/22/09 at 17:03:14
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 12/22/09 at 12:13:03:
Net Warrior wrote on 12/21/09 at 21:25:33:
I'm pretty cluesless about databases.  I recently bought Fritz 10 and I wonder if it has a feed reader.  Does anyone know if it has a feed reader and how I would recognize it, or where I could get one?   Sad Embarrassed

Can't you read feeds with any browser these days? In Internet Explorer there is an orange icon that 'lights up' whenever there is a feed to read.


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Antillian wrote on 12/22/09 at 14:52:11:
Fear of piracy is the reason that most chess book publishers will not follow Everyman Chess' model of releasing ebooks. The whole book publishing model is archaic and needlessly redundant when you think about it. Writers spend hours putting games into Chessbase. Publishers then spend hours converting the  chessbase files into hard paper. Buyers then spend hours entering the games on the hard paper back into chessbase as they study them and analyse them. Isn't this madness?


I think everybody does this to some extent (If not, what would be the point of a program like Bookup/COW?!) but still the copyright warning in many books mentions "storing [any part of this publication] in a retrieval system" as illegal without prior permission! Even productive author John Watson admitted in one of his book reviews to spending countless hours manually inputing book lines into Chessbase.

So this particular aspect of copyright law is pretty much a joke.
  

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Fear of piracy is the reason that most chess book publishers will not follow Everyman Chess' model of releasing ebooks. The whole book publishing model is archaic and needlessly redundant when you think about it. Writers spend hours putting games into Chessbase. Publishers then spend hours converting the  chessbase files into hard paper. Buyers then spend hours entering the games on the hard paper back into chessbase as they study them and analyse them. Isn't this madness?

I don't approve of piracy. I don't use torrent and I don't share my digital chess materials with others who have not bought them. However, I will not judge anyone else harshly since when I was a kid, my only chess books were ones I photocopied.

Stigma wrote on 12/22/09 at 14:36:25:
Copy protection won't stop the most determined and knowledgeable thiefs, but it should deter at least some would-be filesharers.


Yes, enforcement is only one part of the picture. Sellers have to find creative ways to make people more likely to buy their product instead of stealing it. For example, once upon a time, I had to wait months to see a new US movie on the big screen. You can be sure that long before that, pirated copies were available on video. The US movie industry moved in the direction of simultaneous world wide releases largely to combat piracy. Now I can go see Avator right now in my local cinema whereas a few years ago, it would probably have not been released until March next year! So i am less likely to rent that pirated copy.

I think Chessbase recognises this. For instance, the downloadable Chessbase Light Premium now has almost all of the feature of the full verson of Chessbase full edition. Less incentive for piracy. They have to look for other creative ways with their other products to make buyers more likely to buy them than to steal them.

GMTonyKosten wrote on 12/22/09 at 13:10:12:
I wonder if they have been forced to up the price because so many people thieve it? So the honest people have to pay more because of the dishonest ones? Sad


Not necessarily. There is a controversial  argument that piracy had a positive effect on legal sales in the music industry for instance.
  

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I have an impression that attitudes toward copyright are (even) more relaxed in Eastern Europe.

Maybe for that reason Convekta has used copy protection on many of its products, and really I think Chessbase should consider the same. It's easy to take a moral stand and simply admonish people to follow the law, but what can you actually do about it when many practice "sharing" among friends and on the internet?

Copy protection won't stop the most determined and knowledgeable thiefs, but it should deter at least some would-be filesharers.
  

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Well Chessbase used to have a free online database. New In Chess still has one. However, online databases have severe limitations. Most people will want a database that they can fully access and manipulate offline.
  

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Wouldn't it be a good idea for chessbase (or its competitors) to offer a subscription service for an online database updated daily or at least weekly  which you would access thru the net, and not need to download, except for games in the search results?

There would be no need for producing plastic cases with cds/dvds, transport of those and users would not need to continually spend time on updating their own copy of the database. Thus saving time, effort, the environment and it would be quite difficult to steal or torrent...

And maybe this idea of adding service as a part of the deal could also be used in other areas? For example, online chessbooks that are constantly updated! Smiley
  
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This just reminded me of something that happened to me a couple of years ago after the Metz tournament finished. A Ukrainian GM started talking to me and told me how much he liked my Najdorf book, but then added that 'of course he hadn't bought it, he'd downloaded it for free'!! It was as though buying it was somehow stupid! Roll Eyes
  
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TN wrote on 12/21/09 at 05:49:53:

Better still, even people without friends can now get Mega Database. The day Mega Database 2010 was released, it was available for free at BigTorrent.

Why spend so much on a product that is widely available for free? I suspect more and more people will stop buying Mega 2010 and switch to free downloads, which wouldn't be great news for ChessBase.

I don't really understand this attitude, ChessBase have to employ someone and pay him money to produce MegaBase. Surely they should be entitled to charge the price they feel is necessary to cover their costs and allow them a small profit? If you want the article then pay for it, if not there is absolutely no way one can justify stealing it.
I wonder if they have been forced to up the price because so many people thieve it? So the honest people have to pay more because of the dishonest ones? Sad
  
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Net Warrior wrote on 12/21/09 at 21:25:33:
I'm pretty cluesless about databases.  I recently bought Fritz 10 and I wonder if it has a feed reader.  Does anyone know if it has a feed reader and how I would recognize it, or where I could get one?   Sad Embarrassed

Can't you read feeds with any browser these days? In Internet Explorer there is an orange icon that 'lights up' whenever there is a feed to read.
  
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Jupp53 wrote on 12/21/09 at 09:43:21:
Meanwhile there is tons of free high quality material in the web. Go to the main chess web pages and blogs with a feed reader and you'll have after a month more good material than an amateur can study in the same time.

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I'm pretty cluesless about databases.  I recently bought Fritz 10 and I wonder if it has a feed reader.  Does anyone know if it has a feed reader and how I would recognize it, or where I could get one?   Sad Embarrassed
  

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Why download illegal stuff if there's enough legal material for training in the web? When going through the links of Lars Balzer you can get a cleaned up (duplicate free) database with more than 8 mio games.

Meanwhile there is tons of free high quality material in the web. Go to the main chess web pages and blogs with a feed reader and you'll have after a month more good material than an amateur can study in the same time.

And if megabase costs too much, buy some of the chesspublishing.com data you need.  Wink You really get a lot of well commented games for study.
  

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radarKW wrote on 12/20/09 at 23:36:45:
TN wrote on 12/16/09 at 11:46:22:
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

The best option is to have a friend who has purchased the latest Mega Database, and download it from him. ChessBase don't seem to overly care about this. Then you receive the high-quality product without the exorbatent costs.


THIEF


Better still, even people without friends can now get Mega Database. The day Mega Database 2010 was released, it was available for free at BigTorrent.

Why spend so much on a product that is widely available for free? I suspect more and more people will stop buying Mega 2010 and switch to free downloads, which wouldn't be great news for ChessBase.
  

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If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

The best option is to have a friend who has purchased the latest Mega Database, and download it from him. ChessBase don't seem to overly care about this. Then you receive the high-quality product without the exorbatent costs.


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Popped into the Chess & Bridge Centre this morning to make my annual upgrade of the Mega Database only to find the price has gone up from £39.95 last year to £69.95 ...


The problem was when BCM guys sold their store to Chess & Bridge. I was a customer buyer of BCM and when that happened I never bought anything. The guys from Chess & Bridge are completely crazy from long time ago!  Sad
  

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With Mega 2010 you receive  games until 2nd round World Cup and purchase downloadable update service till end of 2010 ( with ChessBase 10 though ) its a 2 year service , so its not so bad .
As i have to start somewhere ( wasnt active last 5 years ) i bought it , but i agree that updating via TWIC or others with older versions of Mega ( much cheaper ^^ ) is a good option Smiley .
  
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If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

The best option is to have a friend who has purchased the latest Mega Database, and download it from him. ChessBase don't seem to overly care about this. Then you receive the high-quality product without the exorbatent costs.
  

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Want it cheap?
Buy mega 05 or 06 or 07 and download the rest from twic, there are enough commented games in the megas for all your life.
I have bought mega 07 for 20 Euro,
and updated it with twic.
  
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I bought my first database (Big) in 2000, with annotated games and my second one (Mega) only a few months ago. In between I have downloaded from various sources, as TWIC is not the only one. Check Lars Balzer's site. I noticed that I was about 500 000 games behind this way.
I also mostly use dial-up. As I pay my telephone bill in Surinamese Dollars that is cheaper. It takes me about 3 minutes to download a file.
Probably I will buy my next database in 2015 or so. That way the expenses remain in control.
  

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Mega 2010 is €50 for subscribers of CBM.

They claim that most work have been done on the Player database which is a part of Mega.

I still think that the price is horrendous though.
  

What kind of proof is that?
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This brings up an interesting point for me:

If all (or enough) chess games are available for free via download, what is the true value of annotations?

ChessBase puts the value at 150 Euros for Megabase.  This seems outrageous to me, but I'm not sure what price would be appropriate.

I know, there will be plenty of people who will suggest that the market determines its own price/value.  Pace, Adam Smith.

What is the intrinsic value of human annotations to games when most of those same humans use computers to generate and check their analysis anyway?

What are we getting for 150 Euros?
  
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TimS wrote on 12/15/09 at 19:48:38:
Thanks John. £44 is certainly a better price, although I don't want to rely on the post, especially at this time of the year.
I'm trying to find out who has the bookstall at Hastings this year ...


I think Today might be risky for parcels to arrive before Xmas. Hastings bookstall would save on postage!
  

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Thanks John. £44 is certainly a better price, although I don't want to rely on the post, especially at this time of the year.
I'm trying to find out who has the bookstall at Hastings this year ...
  
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Popped into the Chess & Bridge Centre this morning to make my annual upgrade of the Mega Database only to find the price has gone up from £39.95 last year to £69.95 ...


Shop around. I've sent you a PM. They will post.
  

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If you check out the terms of openingmaster's discount offer they are really weird.  Why the hell would they want proof of age?  Sounds like a freaky excuse to get ahold of someone's ID.  What are these people, Ukranians?

They purport to offer discussions or lessons of some type, but these materials do not appear to be authored by titled players, or at any rate, by any identified players at all.
  

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TimS wrote on 12/15/09 at 14:11:10:
Popped into the Chess & Bridge Centre this morning to make my annual upgrade of the Mega Database only to find the price has gone up from £39.95 last year to £69.95 ...


The worth of the pound is deteriorating to the €.
I expect to buy GB with 1 € in 2013 Cool
  

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TonyRo wrote on 12/15/09 at 15:45:35:
It's a subscription based website that updates the largest database around, apparently. They update it quite often, at least monthly with new games, and also maintain separate databases for download as well, such as an only FIDE Top 100 database, and a correspondence database.

www.openingmaster.com


Is there anybody here who's paid for this who has an opinion of its value?  If it were $40.00 a year for the plantinum I might bite, but it's 40.00 Euro = $60.00.  Damn George Bush.
  

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Two problems:

i) I like the annotations of Mega

ii) I only have dial-up at home
  
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Okay, I checked out the website. But I don't see the value of paying for a subscription when you can simply download updates every week for FREE from TWIC. If you can't be bothered to do it every week, do it every month - the weekly update files are still there. Simply buy Bigbase once for 50.00 Euro and keep it updated for free.
  

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It's a subscription based website that updates the largest database around, apparently. They update it quite often, at least monthly with new games, and also maintain separate databases for download as well, such as an only FIDE Top 100 database, and a correspondence database.

www.openingmaster.com
  
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Personally, I only bought Big Base which is the far cheaper unannotated version. I decided that I get enough annotated games in my book game collections and my subsription to Chesspublishing.com, that I don't need to pay all the extra money for Megabase. I download games from TWIC every Monday or Tuesday to keep it up to date - I have been doing that now for two years.

But I suppose if you want the annotated games in Megabase, you have no choice but to fork out doles of money for the update every year.

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If you're going spend that much, why not buy a subscription to Opening Master?
  
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This really brings up the question of whether it would be possible to write a script in Python or whatever that would do all the necessary updates in pgn from public sources, e.g. TWIC.
  

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