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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #44 - 02/22/12 at 19:02:59
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 11/21/10 at 18:37:55:
Do we have any updates from Markovich or others on this line?  

(The thread's gone cold recently.)


As far as I can tell, the ...f5-idea seems to be fine, with 15. Qb3 being the main line given by Palliser, just as LeeRoth says. It still seems to be nothing special for White.
  
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #43 - 02/22/12 at 18:33:47
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LeeRoth wrote on 02/22/12 at 18:08:12:
Both Palliser and Ziegler cover the Flick Knife in their new works on the Benoni.  Ziegler recommends 14..f5 as his repertoire choice for Black.  Palliser covers the move as well, giving it a !? and noting that, while Black might be able to defend the resulting positions, the hole on ..e6 won't appeal to everyone.  Both note that 15.Qb3 is White's strongest response.

   


Thanks for reminding me, I actually have Palliser's book, but haven't looked at the Chapter on the Flick Knife yet!
  
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Reply #42 - 02/22/12 at 18:08:12
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Both Palliser and Ziegler cover the Flick Knife in their new works on the Benoni.  Ziegler recommends 14..f5 as his repertoire choice for Black.  Palliser covers the move as well, giving it a !? and noting that, while Black might be able to defend the resulting positions, the hole on ..e6 won't appeal to everyone.  Both note that 15.Qb3 is White's strongest response.

  
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Reply #41 - 02/22/12 at 11:06:27
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If you want to discuss the Fianchetto Benoni, I'd prefer it if you do so on a separate thread, as opposed to one on the Flick Knife/Taimanov Attack.
  
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Reply #40 - 02/22/12 at 01:35:42
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How is the analysis in the book with regards to Avrukh's repertoire choices against the Modern Benoni (Fianchetto)?
  
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Reply #39 - 02/21/12 at 23:09:33
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fling wrote on 02/21/12 at 21:04:44:
I am sorry, was there any conclusion on Watson's line in the flick-knife, with an early ...Qh4+?


Based on the annotations here at Chesspub, this line seems playable, even though White has a plus score. In the critical lines, Black seems to be holding, such as in the line of Garcia Martinez-Pigusov, 1987 (even with better play from White).
  
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Reply #38 - 02/24/12 at 02:06:22
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #37 - 12/01/10 at 16:46:57
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I have had no time to do much else besides my book, but I'm certain I'll revisit this line or test it in some CC games in about a month!

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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #36 - 11/21/10 at 18:37:55
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Do we have any updates from Markovich or others on this line?   

(The thread's gone cold recently.)
  
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #35 - 06/04/10 at 16:47:29
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TonyRo wrote on 12/16/09 at 20:53:53:
I'll be working on this line some part of tonight I would imagine, and much more thoroughly in the weeks coming up due to my girlfriend going back home for the holidays (chess time!), so maybe we can compare notes and see what's really going on here at some later date. Either way I think 14...b6 is pretty crap.

Maybe we should work on the Benoni too, and publish a Black repertoire book featuring Alekhine's Defense and the Modern Benoni called You should be losing, but somehow you're not!


Very true:  I don't know how the Grunfeld didn't make the list though...

After "1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8. Bb5+ Nfd7 9. a4 O-O 10. Nf3 Na6 11. O-O Nb4 12. Re1 a6 13. Bf1"  I know I used to have a plan involving ...Qc7, ...Rb8, and ...c4 in my notes to get ...b7-b5 in.  I got the Bc8 out via a6 once, not that that should be possible with best play.  I specifically recall refusing to play ...b6 just because I believed that if Black played that he had to be worse.
  
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #34 - 05/22/10 at 02:00:06
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TonyRo wrote on 12/16/09 at 01:54:11:
Hello everyone, 

I'm curious as to what the best lines are for White in the line where Black puts his knight on b4. I am currently just messing around with this defence, mostly because it's fun to analyze, and I'm not finding anything life-ending for Black here. Let's take a look at some of the main lines:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8. Bb5+ Nfd7 9. a4 O-O 10. Nf3 Na6 11. O-O Nb4 12. Re1 a6 13. Bf1 Re8 and now White has some choices:

14. h3 is the main choice, and now I kind of like 14...f5!?, regardless of the eventual verdict. One awesome line I found was 15. exf5 Rxe1 16. Qxe1!?, which just looks like it loses. Unfortunately, Black would run into some (I suppose not so unpleasant surprises) after 16...Nc2 17. Qe6+ Kh8 18. Ng5!, when I don't think Black can get anything more than a draw, for instance 18...Ne5 (18...Bd4=) 19. fxe5!! Bxe6 20. dxe6 Qb6 21. a5! Qc6 22. Nf7+ Kg8 23. Bc4, which is about equal.


16...Nf6! =+  My point is that unlike 16...Nc2?!, it looks like chess.
  
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #33 - 05/19/10 at 13:34:21
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topandkas wrote on 05/19/10 at 07:22:01:
@Tony

I firmly believe, I have killed your 18...Bd4+ as White should be winning using the same amazing idea as your "main line" after 18...Ne5. In the main line, however, im not sure what happens after 21...Qb3!? and so far havent even begun analyzing the alternative 20...Qa5.


Why don't you post your analysis?
  
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #32 - 05/19/10 at 12:28:46
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Certainly possible. It's better to post the lines so other people can check them. There are other queen moves, and I'd speculate that Black has alternatives much earlier as well, for instance, not playing ...Nc2. I just used this line to illustrate that Black can get into trouble, and that it wasn't as clear cut as one might think.
  
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #31 - 05/19/10 at 07:22:01
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@Tony

I firmly believe, I have killed your 18...Bd4+ as White should be winning using the same amazing idea as your "main line" after 18...Ne5. In the main line, however, im not sure what happens after 21...Qb3!? and so far havent even begun analyzing the alternative 20...Qa5.
  
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Re: Modern Benoni - Flick Knife
Reply #30 - 05/16/10 at 01:21:05
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LeeRoth wrote on 05/16/10 at 00:43:20:
TonyRo wrote on 12/16/09 at 01:54:11:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. f4 Bg7 8. Bb5+ Nfd7 9. a4 O-O 10. Nf3 Na6 11. O-O Nb4 12. Re1 a6 13. Bf1 Re8 and now White has some choices:

14. h3 is the main choice, and now I kind of like 14...f5!?, regardless of the eventual verdict. One awesome line I found was 15. exf5 Rxe1 16. Qxe1!?, which just looks like it loses. Unfortunately, Black would run into some (I suppose not so unpleasant surprises) after 16...Nc2 17. Qe6+ Kh8 18. Ng5!, when I don't think Black can get anything more than a draw, for instance 18...Ne5 (18...Bd4=) 19. fxe5!! Bxe6 20. dxe6 Qb6 21. a5! Qc6 22. Nf7+ Kg8 23. Bc4, which is about equal.


After 23.Bc4, White may actually be winning.  I'm sure I've missed something, but two sample lines:  

23..Bxe5 24.Nxe5 dxe5 25.f6 +-

23..Nxa1 24.f6 dxe5 25.fxg7 g5 

(25..Nc2 26.Bh6 b5 27.axb6 Qxb6 28 e7 and mate in three)  

26.Bxg5 Kxg7 27.Bh6 Kg5 28.Nd5 Kxe6 29.Nb4+ +-





You might be right! Although there are a lot of other draws I think, for instance 18...Bd4+ 19. Kh1 Qf8, or probably 20...Qa5.
  
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