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Re: Move order
Reply #4 - 01/13/11 at 06:13:38
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The knight is rather well placed on Ne5 and has no intention on jumping to c4 at first opportunity. In many lines there are sacs at f3 or g4. By putting the knight there early instead of later blak intends to stop Bc4 and force white into the usual 9.0-0-0 lines. The question is:can white take advantage of the early knight-deployment?

I agree that in most cases it is not likely that white will opt for the transposition 9.0-0-0 Bd7 10.Bc4, unless he knows you intend 9.Bc4 Nfd7 when he can move-order you and get you out of your lines. I`ve met some players online who do this.

So my question is if there is any obvious disadvantage to moving the knight to e5 early. If there isn`t it it is a good way for black to force the 9.0-0-0 lines. There is just one correspondence game in the database, hence my question. Some players have tried a quick Ne5 after castling, but that look pretty dangerous after Bh6.
  

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Re: Move order
Reply #3 - 01/12/11 at 23:43:36
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What's the point of 8...Ne5? It can't be ...Rc8 and ...Nc4 losing a couple of tempi.
At the other hand I doubt if any player of the white side will opt for the transposition 9.0-0-0 Bd7 10.Bc4. That means combining the two main variations of the Yugoslav Attack.
  

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Re: Move order
Reply #2 - 01/12/11 at 20:32:42
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Another move-order question. Is it possible to play 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd 4.Nxd Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 Nc6 8.Qd2 and now 8..Ne5, sidestepping 9.Bc4?

My problem is that I intended to play Bd7 vs.9.0-0-0 and Nfd7 vs. the Bc4-lines. However, after 9.0-0-0 Bd7 10. Bc4 I`ve been move-ordered!

  

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Re: Move order
Reply #1 - 12/27/09 at 13:18:36
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If 10 h4 simply h5 and the position (after an eventual Rc8 Ne5 etc) will leed to the supersolid Soltis defence. The move h5 might look strange but it has been played by Kasparov,Topalov, Carlsen, Radjabov, Shirov, Ivanchuk etc etc.

If 10 Bb3 simply Rc8 and after 0-0-0 Nxd4 transposes to your line agianst 10 0-0-0 and h4 is meet by h5 leeding to Soltis defence.

The main differences between Soltis defence and Profylatic Kb1 (that Nxd4 avoids) Soltis like position are huge since Kb1 is often a usufull move to play for white.
  
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Move order
12/26/09 at 13:07:56
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Hello,

On the classical variation i'm playing the variation with Nxd4 and b5 (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 00 8.Qd2 Nc6 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.000 Rc8 11.Bb3 Nxd4 12.Bxd4 b5)

My question is:
what can i play if white delay castle ?
(with 10.h4 or 10.Bb3)
  
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