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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #189 - 08/30/12 at 16:19:09
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #188 - 08/30/12 at 04:04:37
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It seems a novelty or recommendation from PTF4 was played in the Olympiad by French expert (and ChessPub author) IM Kevin Goh in Rd 2.

1.  e4 e6 2.  d4 d5 3.  Nc3 Bb4 4.  e5 c5 5.  a3 Bxc3+ 6.  bxc3 Ne7 7.  h4 Nbc6 8.  Nf3 f6 9.  h5 fxe5 10.  dxe5 
     [10.  h6!? ]
10...  h6 11.  Bf4  The Bishop can be a target for a potential exchange sacrifice. 11...  O-O 12.  Qd2 Qa5! This was the stinger Wei Ming had prepared, thanks to the ingenuity of IM John Watson who advocated this in Play the French 4. Black makes use of the loose Bishop on f4 to exact threats on c3. 13.  Rh4 
     [13.  g3 Bd7 14.  Nh4 Be8 15.  Be2 Nf5 16.  Kf1 Nxh4 17.  Rxh4 Ne7 18.  Bd3 c4 19.  Be2 Kh7=/+ was recommended by IM John Watson in his Play the French 4. ]

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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #187 - 08/25/12 at 15:35:25
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Sean Coffey wrote on 06/04/12 at 02:27:22:
I don't know anything further about McCutcheon. But on the issue of Mc/Mac/M' I can comment (no references, but I was born in Ireland and lived there until I was 21). It's true that these variants all share the same derivation ("son of"). But it is not true that they are considered interchangeable. It seems to have been the case up until 200 years ago or so that most people (and this was not limited to any particular country) were casual about how their name was spelled, and would vary it themselves from time to time. E.g., I read some where recently that Labourdonnais used a few different versions of his name, as did McDonnell. But at some point spellings stabilized, and for a long time now (150 years?), MacCutcheon/McCutcheon (or MacDonald/McDonald, or MacCarthy/McCarthy) would no more be considered equivalent acceptable spellings than Smith/Smyth (or Tait/Tate), say.   

Hi

Sorry to take the thread off topic, earlier I mentioned to my brother (Neil McDonald) about the discussion in this thread that included our surname.

Neil responded with:

"When I was at school the history teacher wrote the name of a former Prime Minister on the blackboard. He said that it was neater to spell his name 'Ramsay Macdonald' rather than 'Ramsay McDonald'. So we have an untidy name!"

Neil has just got back from India (accompanying/tutoring the UK blind team) and straight away (tomorrow) he's back out of the country with the Guernsey team who are playing in the World Chess Olympiad in Turkey http://www.chessolympiadistanbul.com/

He sure gets about!

You probably know that Neil's latest book 'Break the Rules!' was released last month and he's currently working on a new book which I know nothing about at the moment.

Hope you don't mind me posting here, as Neil updated the French for a long time I thought some of you might be interested in what he's up to.

Cheers,

Mark.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #186 - 08/20/12 at 08:55:52
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Not that I've got a specific opinion on 11.. Qc7 myself but it has been the fighting main line vs the Tarrasch for a fair while now and so it was certainly much the most logical choice for Watson to put in for the sort of book he was writing.

One other thing about the McCutheon coverage - with it being the back up, back up option it is of course only quite a small bit of the book.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #185 - 08/19/12 at 03:08:28
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I assume these are the moves you're talking about with Womaka-Gdanski:

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. Bd3 c5 5. e5 Nfd7 6. c3 Nc6 7. Ne2 cxd4 8. cxd4 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. O-O Bd6 11. Nf3 Qc7 12. Nc3 a6 13. Be3 O-O 14. Rc1 Bd7 15. Na4

How is this misevaluated?

Daniel wrote on 08/16/12 at 19:19:09:
I liked the Poison Pawn Winawer section. It saved a lot of time for me and seems to be the best part of the book I've gone through so far.

The Tarrasch section, not so much. I don't trust 11...Qc7 and he has some incorrect evaluations (Womacka-Gdanski among others). I would much rather he just based the section on Volkov games. Interesting Ngf3 stuff though. He covers Eingorn's 7. Ngf3 h6!?

  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #184 - 08/17/12 at 08:47:42
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A bit of commentary as I remember. It did maybe seem a little bit less dense than the Winaver stuff, although he does take a lot of the 'sidelines' fairly seriously. It is the second/third option after all!

cf the McCutcheon stuff, did I miss it when reading it through or did .. 6 Be3 Ne4 7 Ne2!? fall between the gaps somewhere?

It's really not a major line of course and certainly not a problem with the book Smiley It's just that he covers some other sidelines like the anologous 6 Bc1 stuff in moderate detail so it did very slightly surprise me.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #183 - 08/17/12 at 08:19:38
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How's the McCutcheon coverage in this one? Any useful thumb rules and other commentary or is it the usual, i.e. lots of short variations within lots of brackets?
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #182 - 08/17/12 at 01:57:24
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Please, Ametanoitos and Daniel, let's see some concrete variations!
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #181 - 08/16/12 at 19:19:09
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I liked the Poison Pawn Winawer section. It saved a lot of time for me and seems to be the best part of the book I've gone through so far.

The Tarrasch section, not so much. I don't trust 11...Qc7 and he has some incorrect evaluations (Womacka-Gdanski among others). I would much rather he just based the section on Volkov games. Interesting Ngf3 stuff though. He covers Eingorn's 7. Ngf3 h6!?
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #180 - 08/16/12 at 16:02:28
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Paddy wrote on 08/12/12 at 11:25:50:
I am surprised that although the book has now been out for a while there has been very little discussion here of the concrete lines therein. I am wondering why.

Is it a perfect book, a "bible" that no-one dares to criticise?

Is it because the sheer amount of detail is intimidating?

or why?


You cannot imagine how much i want to comment on the book! But the problem is that....i write a book on the French myself (together with GM Aagaard)! This is the "part 2" of my Greek project being two books for the Quality Chess publications (Tarrasch first part and French second part and some of my suggestions have made it into the soon to come Avrukh's "Anti" GM- Rep book also). So, i guess that my usual hard critisism won't be accepted as sincere thoughts. This doesn't mean that i think that the book is bad, on the contrary. There are things i like (and forced me to change stuff in my book also) and things i dont like (as always!), but in general the book is above average.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #179 - 08/13/12 at 09:31:28
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Indeed. Although I'm sure there are some things you could pick apart Smiley There's quite a few new/ purposefully relatively interesting/ mildly speculative things in there and it'd be amazing if they all held up perfectly!

The McCutheon stuff might be the easiest place to start as it does seem very slightly lighter in comparison, and is horribly sharp.
(Of course with it being second/third choice that's to be expected!).
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #178 - 08/13/12 at 06:18:04
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 08/12/12 at 06:54:20:
proustiskeen wrote on 08/11/12 at 19:34:57:
Did you fix the spelling of my name too? Smiley


oops, no, I forgot, sorry


actually, just checking: yes

and just looking at the hard copy, I see the late correction made it into the actual book as well

so there you go Smiley
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #177 - 08/12/12 at 15:46:36
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I think it's probably because (1) the book is new, so people haven't gone through it in depth yet, and (2) it's pretty darned thorough.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #176 - 08/12/12 at 11:25:50
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I am surprised that although the book has now been out for a while there has been very little discussion here of the concrete lines therein. I am wondering why.

Is it a perfect book, a "bible" that no-one dares to criticise?

Is it because the sheer amount of detail is intimidating?

or why?
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #175 - 08/12/12 at 06:54:20
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proustiskeen wrote on 08/11/12 at 19:34:57:
Did you fix the spelling of my name too? Smiley


oops, no, I forgot, sorry Embarrassed
  
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