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Re: looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
Reply #7 - 02/16/10 at 01:24:25
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HoemberChess wrote on 02/15/10 at 13:10:02:
Does it (7.a4) have enough "bite"?
So, you suggest studying the Khalifman book (Kramnik rep.) ?

Both 4.Nc3 and 7.e4 are gambit-style. Just what I argued against.
(Also in the Avrukh-book, there are a lot of forced lines up to move 15-20sg, where I have to remember "only" moves in sharp positions, while I can't afford to spend so much time studying one opening which, incidentally, I have never had to face in practice yet.)


TN wrote on 02/15/10 at 12:24:07:
7.a4 was recommended by Khalifman if I recall correctly, and seemed like a good choice, at least if you want a reliable long-term weapon against the QGA.

Personally, I've always thought that 7.e4!? was an interesting and quite effective surprise weapon. There are a few routes to equality for Black, but the line is old and forgotten and if you are prepared in the critical lines, then your opponent's ride will probably be bumpier than yours.

Otherwise, there's something to be said for playing in gambit style with 4.Nc3, which leads to quite interesting positions.



7. a4 has significant bite, and is far from being harmless. There's a reason it's been played by several super GMs.

That aside, 7. Bb3 is still probably the way to go.
  

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Re: looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
Reply #6 - 02/15/10 at 18:54:13
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kylemeister wrote on 02/15/10 at 18:17:02:
One of the other possibilities is the Furman (early Qe2 and dc).  It was advocated in a repertoire book by Richard Palliser some years ago; offhand I would think it might suit you.


Bear in mind the Furman can be avoided: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 e6 4.e3 c5 5.Bxc4 a6 6.0-0 Nf6
  

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Re: looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
Reply #5 - 02/15/10 at 18:51:57
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Yes; it's all in the isolated-pawn chapter.

I could add that the Palliser book was pretty much the opposite of books recommending sharp/cutting-edge lines.
  
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Re: looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
Reply #4 - 02/15/10 at 18:46:21
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kylemeister wrote on 02/15/10 at 18:17:02:
One thing I would think might interest/be good for you is Ivan Sokolov's pawn-structure book, which has some material on several of these lines (7. Bb3, 7. a4, 7. Bd3).

One of the other possibilities is the Furman (early Qe2 and dc).  It was advocated in a repertoire book by Richard Palliser some years ago; offhand I would think it might suit you.


Do you mean Winning chess middlegames? (I have the book but I have not studied it at all.)
Is it easy to find the relevant chapter?
  

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Re: looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
Reply #3 - 02/15/10 at 18:17:02
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One thing I would think might interest/be good for you is Ivan Sokolov's pawn-structure book, which has some material on several of these lines (7. Bb3, 7. a4, 7. Bd3).

One of the other possibilities is the Furman (early Qe2 and dc).  It was advocated in a repertoire book by Richard Palliser some years ago; offhand I would think it might suit you.
  
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Re: looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
Reply #2 - 02/15/10 at 13:10:02
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Does it (7.a4) have enough "bite"?
So, you suggest studying the Khalifman book (Kramnik rep.) ?

Both 4.Nc3 and 7.e4 are gambit-style. Just what I argued against.
(Also in the Avrukh-book, there are a lot of forced lines up to move 15-20sg, where I have to remember "only" moves in sharp positions, while I can't afford to spend so much time studying one opening which, incidentally, I have never had to face in practice yet.)


TN wrote on 02/15/10 at 12:24:07:
7.a4 was recommended by Khalifman if I recall correctly, and seemed like a good choice, at least if you want a reliable long-term weapon against the QGA.

Personally, I've always thought that 7.e4!? was an interesting and quite effective surprise weapon. There are a few routes to equality for Black, but the line is old and forgotten and if you are prepared in the critical lines, then your opponent's ride will probably be bumpier than yours.

Otherwise, there's something to be said for playing in gambit style with 4.Nc3, which leads to quite interesting positions.

  

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Re: looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
Reply #1 - 02/15/10 at 12:24:07
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7.a4 was recommended by Khalifman if I recall correctly, and seemed like a good choice, at least if you want a reliable long-term weapon against the QGA.

Personally, I've always thought that 7.e4!? was an interesting and quite effective surprise weapon. There are a few routes to equality for Black, but the line is old and forgotten and if you are prepared in the critical lines, then your opponent's ride will probably be bumpier than yours.

Otherwise, there's something to be said for playing in gambit style with 4.Nc3, which leads to quite interesting positions.
  

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looking for an alternative to Avrukh's QGA
02/15/10 at 10:20:55
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I have been studying 7.Bb3 ala "GM Repertoire - 1.d4 by Avrukh (2008)".
BUT:
I find the suggested lines to be very theoretical (although also interesting), often involving material sacrifices, while I don't like it if my game hangs on a thin thread early in the opening.
(Most of my opponents are not even an FM -- it is not worth the time.)
I don't know, perhaps I could play 7.Bb3 in some other way..?

Please suggest an alternative.



(According to my White repertoire, I can get QG(A/D) positions after the following sequences:
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 (3..dxc4 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.0-0 a6)            
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 c6 3.c4 (3..dxc4 4.e3)
           (3..e6 4.Qc2 Nf6 5.Bg5 ala OFWAT-Kramnik)
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4
)
  

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