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Re: QGA for Black DVD - Andrew Martin Foxy Videos
Reply #22 - 10/04/10 at 20:38:31
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I am curious what position Ametanoitos is referring to also..

Quote: "No problem with 7.dxc5. In fact if you notice the recommendation of Ippolito and Hilton in their "Wojo" book the position is actually slightly in Black's favor! Of course there are various ways for White to play after 7.dxc5 but i feel condident for Black in either case."

  
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Re: QGA for Black DVD - Andrew Martin Foxy Videos
Reply #21 - 08/15/10 at 09:37:24
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Ametanoitos wrote on 07/25/10 at 18:29:57:
No problem with 7.dxc5. In fact if you notice the recommendation of Ippolito and Hilton in their "Wojo" book the position is actually slightly in Black's favor! Of course there are various ways for White to play after 7.dxc5 but i feel condident for Black in either case.

If you know of any improvement in Avrukh's analysis after 8...Bb7 (i know it was discussed in another thread here) or after 7...Nc6 please let me know. I feel that the best way for Black to play lies in the 12...Nc6 or 12...Nc5 or 12...Be7 in the variation i gave above.


Could you please be more specific (which position in the 7.dxc5 chapter are you thinking of)?

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Reply #20 - 08/14/10 at 08:56:43
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Ametanoitos wrote on 08/14/10 at 08:08:10:
I just remembered seeing this in chessbase's advertisement of cbm 131 in the video sections:

A system against 1.d4

GM Dorian Rogozenco has worked out a system for Black in the Queen’s Gambit Accepted which is “extremely simple to learn and to play”. After the capture on c4 and the standard moves for White of 3.Nf3 and 4.e3 Black can, after a6, b5 and Bb7, bring about a position which has until now been reckoned to be disadvantageous on account of the backward c-pawn. But in his video analysis Rogozenco shows an astonishingly simple way for Black to carry out the thematic advance c7-c5 and thus reach equality without any problems.


Has anyone seen this video in cbm 130? What lines Rogozenko gives there? Maybe this will raise some interest. Thanks


It is 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 a6.

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Re: QGA for Black DVD - Andrew Martin Foxy Videos
Reply #19 - 08/14/10 at 08:08:10
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I just remembered seeing this in chessbase's advertisement of cbm 131 in the video sections:

A system against 1.d4

GM Dorian Rogozenco has worked out a system for Black in the Queen’s Gambit Accepted which is “extremely simple to learn and to play”. After the capture on c4 and the standard moves for White of 3.Nf3 and 4.e3 Black can, after a6, b5 and Bb7, bring about a position which has until now been reckoned to be disadvantageous on account of the backward c-pawn. But in his video analysis Rogozenco shows an astonishingly simple way for Black to carry out the thematic advance c7-c5 and thus reach equality without any problems.


Has anyone seen this video in cbm 130? What lines Rogozenko gives there? Maybe this will raise some interest. Thanks
  
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Reply #18 - 07/28/10 at 18:14:34
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In the 9.-Bb7 probably there's a lot of room for improvements
but at first i've not too much faith!

[Event "Bundesliga 0809"]
[Site "Germany"]
[Date "2009.03.28"]
[Round "14.1"]
[White "Khenkin, Igor"]
[Black "Gharamian, Tigran"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D27"]
[WhiteElo "2647"]
[BlackElo "2555"]
[Annotator "Dji"]
[PlyCount "57"]
[EventDate "2008.10.03"]
[EventType "team ()"]
[EventRounds "15"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2009.05.05"]
[WhiteTeam "Tegernsee"]
[BlackTeam "Remagen"]
[WhiteTeamCountry "GER"]
[BlackTeamCountry "GER"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bxc4 e6 5. Nf3 c5 6. O-O a6 7. Bb3 b5 8. a4 b4
9. e4 Bb7 10. e5 Ne4 11. Nbd2 Nxd2 12. Bxd2 cxd4 13. Ng5 Nd7 14. f4 Nc5 15. f5
Nxb3 16. Qxb3 Qd5 17. Qg3 h6 18. fxe6 hxg5 19. exf7+ Kd7 20. Rac1 Qe6 (20... Bc6 21. Bxg5 d3 22. Rf3 Bc5+ 23. Kf1 Kc7 24. e6+ Kb7
25. Rxd3 Qxe6 26. Rxc5 Qxf7+ 27. Kg1 Rhf8 28. Rd1+= ) 21. Bxg5 Rc8 22. Qf4
Rxc1 23. Rxc1 Bc6 24. Qxd4+ Qd5 25. Qg4+ Kc7 26. e6 Bd6 27. h3 Kb7 28. Rd1 (28.
Be3!) 28... Bc5+ 29. Kh2 1/2-1/2



[Event "Moscow op-A 04th"]
[Site "Moscow"]
[Date "2008.02.10"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Moiseenko, Alexander"]
[Black "Kuzubov, Yuriy"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D27"]
[WhiteElo "2643"]
[BlackElo "2606"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[EventDate "2008.02.02"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "RUS"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2008.03.04"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bxc4 e6 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O c5 7. Bb3 b5 8. a4 b4
9. e4 Bb7 10. e5 Ne4 11. Nbd2 Nxd2 12. Bxd2 cxd4 13. Ng5 Be7 14. Qh5 Bxg5 15.
Bxg5 Qd7 16. f4 O-O 17. Rae1 d3 18. f5 Qd4+ 19. Rf2 Nd7 20. f6 gxf6 21. exf6
Kh8 22. Be3 Qe4 23. Bd2 Qd4 24. Be3 Qe4 25. Bd1 Nxf6 26. Qc5 Rg8 27. Bf3 Rxg2+
28. Bxg2 Rg8 29. Bg5 Qxe1+ 30. Rf1 Qxf1+ 31. Kxf1 Bxg2+ 32. Ke1 d2+ 33. Bxd2
Bd5 34. Bxb4 Ne4 35. Qa7 Rg2 36. Qxf7 h6 37. Ba5 Rxh2 38. Bc7 Rh1+ 39. Ke2 Bc4+
40. Ke3 Re1+ 41. Kd4 1-0
the winner've commented this game but of course i can't reproduice!

  

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Re: QGA for Black DVD - Andrew Martin Foxy Videos
Reply #17 - 07/28/10 at 16:27:50
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Thanks for the link.

Another game...



[Event "FRA-chT2 West 0809"]
[Site "France"]
[Date "2009.04.05"]
[Round "11.2"]
[White "Vareille, Francois"]
[Black "Beneteau, Hubert"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D27"]
[WhiteElo "2406"]
[BlackElo "2096"]
[PlyCount "33"]
[EventDate "2008.10.19"]
[EventType "team ()"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "FRA"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2009.11.30"]
[WhiteTeam "Le Chesnay Versailles"]
[BlackTeam "Agneaux Saint Lo"]
[WhiteTeamCountry "FRA"]
[BlackTeamCountry "FRA"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 c5 4. Bxc4 Nf6 5. Nf3 e6 6. O-O a6 7. Bb3 b5 8. a4 b4
9. e4 cxd4 10. e5 Nfd7 11. Bg5 Qc7 12. Nbd2 Bb7 13. Rc1 Bc5 14. Re1!? O-O ?
(14... h6 15. Bf4 Nc6 16. Bc2 O-O 17. Nb3 Rfd8 18. Qd3 g6 19. Bxh6)
15. Be7 Rc8 16. Nxd4 Nxe5 17. Rxc5 1-0

  

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Re: QGA for Black DVD - Andrew Martin Foxy Videos
Reply #16 - 07/28/10 at 13:30:48
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Ametanoitos wrote on 07/25/10 at 16:35:23:
Anyone who has seen this DVD can tell as if Martin offers something good against Avrukh's recommendations? I raised a subject some time ago when i was trying to find myself any improvement for Black but i didn't succeded. Now i play:

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 e6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Bxc4 c5 6. O-O a6 7. Bb3 b5 8. a4 b4 9. e4 cxd4 10. e5 Nfd7 11. Nbd2 Bb7 12. Nc4 Nc6 13. Bg5 Qc7 14. Rc1 Bc5 15.Nxd4 Ndxe5 16. Nxe5 Qxe5 17. Nf3 Qd6 18. Qc2 and now: 18...Bd4 as was recommended by Watson in one of his online reviews. What i don't like in this line is the "forced" draw after 19. Qe4 Bxb2 20. Rfd1 Qc7 21. Bf4 (21. Bxe6 O-O!)  21... Qb6 22. Be3 Nd4 23. Qb1 Bxc1 24. Bxd4
Qa5 25. Qxc1 Bxf3 26. gxf3 O-O 27. Bxg7 Kxg7 28. Rd5 Qxd5 29. Bxd5 exd5 30. Qg5+ Kh8 31. Qf6+
Of course a draw with Black is not a theoritical problem by i prefer to avoid them. If anyone has any other idea in this topical line maybe it is time to discuss it. Or if anyone can tell us if Martin came up with another solution in his DVD



Some months ago, I posted some analysis here which perhaps may be of tangential interest: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1230744413/22#21

It concerns 9...Bb7, which I suspect is a better move than 9...cxd4.
  

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Reply #15 - 07/28/10 at 11:02:52
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Markovich wrote on 07/28/10 at 00:46:14:
@Ametanoitos:



Well, there you go!   So where is White's advantage against 7...b5, which is a very natural move?


Yes 8.-Bb7 and 7.-Nc6 are more natural than 8.-b4 this move hurt me a little
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Reply #14 - 07/28/10 at 04:59:58
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I have to admit that 8...Bb7 indeed looks natural because with the Bishop on b3 the b5 pawn "feels" more secure. I have to admit also that my statement that 11.Qe2 is a "killer" move came from studying Sakaev/Semkov's book were they give a crushing example after 11.Qe2. Once again this shows that the openings books today can be a lot better. But this may be good for us! If the authors be right 100% every time, then we would have nothing to discuss here.... Smiley
  
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Re: QGA for Black DVD - Andrew Martin Foxy Videos
Reply #13 - 07/28/10 at 00:46:14
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@Ametanoitos:

You said (in a post that I carelessly deleted -- my apologies) "Djy has proposed 14...Nbd7 (instead of 14...Bd6) which looks equal indeed."

Well, there you go!   So where is White's advantage against 8...Bb7, which is a very natural move?
  

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Reply #12 - 07/27/10 at 22:06:37
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Maybe he (Avrukh) is right. It's not so easy to find an improvement in the following game:

[Event "Ukraine (championnat)"]
[Site "Simferopol"]
[Date "2003.11.10"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Kuzubov, Y."]
[Black "Tarlev, K."]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D27"]
[WhiteElo "2441"]
[BlackElo "2341"]
[Annotator "Dji"]
[PlyCount "96"]
[EventDate "2003.11.04"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "UKR"]
[Source "LesEchecs.com"]
[SourceDate "2003.03.18"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5. Bxc4 c5 6. O-O a6 7. Bb3 b5 8. a4 Bb7 9. axb5 axb5 10. Rxa8 Bxa8 11. Qe2 c4 12. Bc2 Nbd7! 1 13. b3 cxb3 14. Bxb3 b4 15. Nbd2 Be7 16. e4 O-O 17. Bb2 Qb8 18. Ra1 Bc6 19. Bc4 Re8 20. h3 Bf8 21.Bd3 Qb7 22. Rc1 h6 23. h4 Ra8 24. Bb1 Bb5 25. Qe3 Rc8 26. Re1 Be7 27. d5 Bc528. Bd4 Ng4 29. Qf4 Bxd4
(29... e5 30. Qxg4 exd4 31. d6 Bxd6 32. e5 Bc5 33.
Nxd4 h5 34. Qf4 Nf8 35. Bf5 Rd8 =)
30. Qxg4 e5 31. Nxd4 exd4 32. d6 Ne5 33.
Qg3 Nc4 34. Nxc4 Bxc4 35. e5 b3 36. Qg4 Be6 37. Qxd4 b2 38. Qd2 Qb3 39. Kh2 Bd740. h5 Rc4 41. f4 Rc3 42. Qd4 Rh3+ 43. Kg1 Rxh5 44. Re3 Qb5 45. Qd3 Qxd3 46.
Rxd3 f6 47. Rb3 Kf7 48. Rxb2 fxe5 1-0

  

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Reply #11 - 07/27/10 at 20:53:30
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Ametanoitos wrote on 07/27/10 at 10:10:13:
Unfortunatelly 11.Qe2 is a killer for Black. We should look in another direction.


Is this true?  Avrukh (p. 438, col. 2) says 8...Bb7 9.axb5 axb5 10.Rxb8 Bxb8 11.Qe2 c4! is satisfactory for Black.

Avrukh instead follows Kaplun-Ponomariov, Yalta 1995: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.O-O a6 7.Bb3 b5 8.a4 Bb7 9.axb5 axb5 10.Rxa8 Bxa8 11.dxc5 Bxc5 12.Nc3 b4 13.Qxd8+ Kxd8 14.Na4 Bd6 15.Nb6 Bb7 16.Nc4 Bc5 17.Nfe5 Ke7 18.Nd3 Na6 19.Na5.

I propose instead of 18...Na6, 18...Nbd7!?.  Now 19.Na5 is no trouble in view of 19...Ba6.  Black's biggest problem seems to be 19.Bd2 Ne4 20.Bxb4 Bxb4 21.Nxb4, but now 21...Rb8!.  White has won Black's weak pawn, but he nevertheless seems to have trouble demonstrating an advantage.  E.g. 22.Ba4 Nec5! or 22.Na5 Kf6!.  The best I could find for White was 22.Ba4 Nec5 23.Bb5 Bxg7 24.Kxb7 Rxb5 25.Nc6+ Kf6 26.b4 Ne4.  White has the outside passed pawn, but is this really such a serious problem for Black, whose pieces are all quite active?  Also, White may have to worry about that ratty h-pawn.

Whoops!  I just noticed 18...Nbd7 19.f3! when Black's life remains difficult.
  

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Reply #10 - 07/27/10 at 18:08:19
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Yes 11.Qe2 is the most ennoying!
i take a look at 7...Nc6 at first,it seem interesting
especially 8.Qe2 cd4 9.Rd1 Be7 10.Nc3 e5 or 10.ed4 Na5 but as Markovich point out it's not the ideal opening to take the full point!!
  

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Unfortunatelly 11.Qe2 is a killer for Black. We should look in another direction.
  
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Reply #8 - 07/26/10 at 17:19:09
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I 've found this interesting game with 11.Nc3 in theory black is not in great danger but OTB against kramnik it's another story!

[Event "CCA ChessWise op"]
[Site "Stratton Mountain"]
[Date "1999.06.11"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Goldin, Alexander"]
[Black "Young, Ronald"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D27"]
[WhiteElo "2585"]
[BlackElo "2299"]
[Annotator "Dji"]
[PlyCount "110"]
[EventDate "1999.06.??"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1999.11.16"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bxc4 e6 5. Nf3 c5 6. O-O a6 7. Bb3 b5 8. a4 Bb7 9. axb5 axb5 10. Rxa8 Bxa8 11. Nc3 b4 12. Na4 cxd4 13. Qxd4 Qxd4  14. Nxd4 Nbd7 15. Bd2 Be7 16. Rc1 O-O 17. f3
(17. Rc7 Bd618. Ra7 Rd8 19. f3 Ne5 (19... h6) 20. Nb6 Bxf3 21. Nxf3 Nxf3+ 22. gxf3 Bc5 23.
Ra8 Bxb6 24. Rxd8+ Bxd8 25. Bxb4 Bb6 26. Kf2 Nd5 27. Bd2 Kf8 28. Ke2 Bc7 = ) 17... g5 (17... Rd8! 18. Rc7 h6 19. Ra7 Bd6 20.h3 Nd5 21. Ra6 Ne5 22. e4 Nc7 23. Ra7 Nd3 24. Be3 Be5 25. Kf1 Ne8 unclear) 18. e4g4 19. Bf4 gxf3 20. gxf3 Nh5 21. Be3 Ne5 22. Rc7 Bd6 23. Ra7 Nd3 24. Nb6 Bc5
25. Rxa8 Bxb6 26. Rxf8+ Kxf8 27. Nxe6+ fxe6 28. Bxb6 Nhf4 29. Bc7?!
(29. Bc2 Nxb230. Bc5+ Kf7 31. Bxb4 e5 32. Bd2 Kf6) 29... Ne2+ 30. Kf1 Nd4 31. Ba2 b3 32. Bb1 Nc2 33. Bd6+ Kf7 34. Ba3 Ne5 35. Bxc2 bxc2 36. b4 Nd3 37. b5 Ke8 38. f4 Nc5 39.
Ke2 Nxe4 40. Kd3 Nd6 41. b6 Kd7 42. Kxc2 Nc4 43. Bc5 Kc6 44. Kc3 Nxb6 45. Bxb6 Kxb6 46. Kd4 Kc6 47. Ke5 Kd7 48. Kf6 Kd6 49. h4 Kd5 50. h5 Ke4 51. Kg5 Kf3 52.
f5 exf5 53. Kxf5 Ke3 54. Kf6 Kd4 55. h6 Kd5 1/2-1/2

  

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