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Poll Question: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra gambit ?
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Taylor defense (Gallagher,Palliser a6,d6,Nc6,Bg4)    
  37 (27.4%)
Eliskases defense delayed Nf6(Be7,Bd7,Nc6,Rc8)    
  7 (5.2%)
Finegold defense(e6,d6,a6,Nf6,Nbd7,Be7)    
  10 (7.4%)
The siberian trap system (Nc6,Nf6,e6,Qc7,Ng4)    
  8 (5.9%)
Chicago defense(e6,d6,a6-b5,Ra7-d7)    
  4 (3.0%)
Early Bc5 (Watson,handbook tricky chess openings)    
  0 (0.0%)
g6- setup.    
  5 (3.7%)
Nge7 Variation(e6,a6,Nc6,Nge7,f6)    
  10 (7.4%)
Morra-declined 3...d3    
  5 (3.7%)
Ah why bother ? I offer the c3-sicilian. (3..Nf6)    
  41 (30.4%)
Other    
  8 (5.9%)




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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #54 - 11/09/21 at 00:56:15
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #53 - 06/21/19 at 12:36:44
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TonyRo wrote on 06/20/19 at 17:24:46:
When I ran into this line in correspondence a few years ago I did some research and played the following: https://www.iccf.com/game?id=832165. I'd like to hear what the literature says about this line, I have to confess that at the time I didn't check! Cheesy

OTB I usually play the ...d6/...a6/...Bg4 line because it's what I've always tried. In my book I recommended simply transposing to the Alapin for space and ease of providing a complete repertoire.


Nice line for a correspondence game. But I was actually looking for something more simplistic. It is not the same correspondence and OTB. The line I mentioned before with the ...d5 reaction transposes even to a good line of the Caro-kann or interesting systems of Alapin with ...d5. For someone that wants to play without too much theory and a good chess game sounds cool than to be looking for refutations.

Here some examples:

According to 365chess taking with the queen on d5 might not be the best.

https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=14&n=22658&ms=e4.c5.d4.cxd4.c3.d5.exd5.Qx...

Playing 3...Nf6:

https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=10&n=25208&ms=e4.c5.d4.cxd4.c3.d5.exd5.Nf...

https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=10&n=22608&ms=e4.c5.d4.cxd4.c3.d5.exd5.Nf...

https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=11&n=62082&ms=e4.c5.d4.cxd4.c3.d5.exd5.Nf...

Taking into Caro-Kann:

https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=11&n=11994&ms=e4.c5.d4.cxd4.c3.d5.exd5.Nf...

I always thought that this position is a Caro-Kann:

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.c4 Nf6 5.cxd5

https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=10&n=5397&ms=e4.c5.d4.cxd4.c3.d5.exd5.Nf6...

All in all I would think of 5.Bb5+, 5.Qa4+ and 5.c4 as the testing ones.

But for a simple game with no complications, and putting the white pieces to sleep. I guess it sounds like a good choice. Even in the Alapin on 1.e4 c5 2.c3 d5 after 3..exd5 instead of the normal 3...Qxd5 it could be interesting 3...Nf6.

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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #52 - 06/21/19 at 07:44:15
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TonyRo wrote on 06/20/19 at 17:24:46:
When I ran into this line in correspondence a few years ago I did some research and played the following: https://www.iccf.com/game?id=832165. I'd like to hear what the literature says about this line, I have to confess that at the time I didn't check! Cheesy


The is the line I play and I consider it the best. This a6+b5+Na5 having played e6 but delaying a bit the development of the guy in f8. It's the recommendation of Ivan Salgado in his chess24 antisicilian video series also.

Salut,

  
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #51 - 06/20/19 at 22:22:07
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I looked at 365chess and 3..d5 looks interesting simplifying everything. I wonder if you could get the same play or kinda the same as 1.e4 c5.2.c3 d5.  On 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 d5 4.exd5 there is even an option with 4...Nf6. I wonder how good is this 3...d5 for simplification?

In case of the Taylor Defense. What are the best sources???
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #50 - 06/20/19 at 20:52:24
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XChess1971 wrote on 06/19/19 at 14:45:44:
On the Taylor Defense. Do you guys know if there is a chance that they play you h3 before black's Bg4???. If so what can you play against h3?


8.h3 gives back a tempo, so Black should be OK playing relatively normal moves. 
I usually follow Ftacnik's recommendation of 8..e6 9.Qe2 Be7 10.Rd1 Qc7 11.Bf4 Ne5!? when 12.Bxe5 dxe5 13.Rac1 Qb8 seems fine for Black.
  
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #49 - 06/20/19 at 18:39:27
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XChess1971 wrote on 06/19/19 at 14:45:44:
On the Taylor Defense. Do you guys know if there is a chance that they play you h3 before black's Bg4???. If so what can you play against h3?

I noticed that Emanuel Berg, who played the Smith-Morra a number of times some years ago, essayed 8. h3 (an old book move -- MCO decades ago gave lines allegedly leading to equality) against Tiger Hillarp Persson.  It didn't go particularly well for White.

(with annotations in Swedish)
https://schack.se/manhems-schackvecka-rond-8-rafflande-remi-i-berg-hillarp-perss...
  
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #48 - 06/20/19 at 17:24:46
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When I ran into this line in correspondence a few years ago I did some research and played the following: https://www.iccf.com/game?id=832165. I'd like to hear what the literature says about this line, I have to confess that at the time I didn't check! Cheesy

OTB I usually play the ...d6/...a6/...Bg4 line because it's what I've always tried. In my book I recommended simply transposing to the Alapin for space and ease of providing a complete repertoire.
  
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #47 - 06/19/19 at 14:45:44
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On the Taylor Defense. Do you guys know if there is a chance that they play you h3 before black's Bg4???. If so what can you play against h3?
  
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Reply #46 - 04/30/12 at 06:18:05
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I usually play the ...Nge7 variation with ...Nc6/Nge7/f6/Ng6/Be7/0-0. The only time I lost with it was when I was up an exchange and a few pawns in the endgame, and stupidly lost massive amounts of material for no reason.
  

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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #45 - 04/30/12 at 05:42:37
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3...Nf6 is safe, ambitious and economical. Since there is no direct Morra "refutation" handy, why bother with more theory?
  
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #44 - 09/16/11 at 23:21:52
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I've tried to find Ginsburg's recommendation in the pdf-file, but the links don't work. Does anybody have it or a link to it, or do I have to buy it through iTunes?
  
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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #43 - 08/13/10 at 19:50:46
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ah gotcha thanks! yeah, that makes more sense Smiley
  

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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #42 - 08/13/10 at 19:48:50
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kobesarmy wrote on 08/13/10 at 19:32:18:
bragesjo wrote on 08/12/10 at 08:13:54:
kobesarmy wrote on 08/12/10 at 04:28:39:
hmm taylor doesn't seem that my style....any lines that an accelerated dragon player might play? i get Nc6 and d6 are probably given there, but how to follow up


Decline by d3? White will later play his pawn to c4.



You mean 1.e4 c5 2.d4 d6   ? It looks interesting, i'll check it out, thanks!


No, he means 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 d3. White has nothing better than taking the pawn and playing c3-c4 (in some order), with a Maroczy Bind type position (similar to standard Accelerated Dragons).
  

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Reply #41 - 08/13/10 at 19:32:18
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bragesjo wrote on 08/12/10 at 08:13:54:
kobesarmy wrote on 08/12/10 at 04:28:39:
hmm taylor doesn't seem that my style....any lines that an accelerated dragon player might play? i get Nc6 and d6 are probably given there, but how to follow up


Decline by d3? White will later play his pawn to c4.



You mean 1.e4 c5 2.d4 d6   ? It looks interesting, i'll check it out, thanks!
  

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Re: What is the "best" line to fight the Smith-Morra g
Reply #40 - 08/12/10 at 08:24:55
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bragesjo wrote on 08/12/10 at 08:12:47:

Frankly Bf4 in that position is not considered but otherwise yes like Palllister (and Gallagher before him).
Only moves considred are e5,  b4, h3, Bg5 and Qe2


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