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Re: From's Gambit - Question about a line
Reply #4 - 03/22/10 at 17:41:43
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Kaissiber is a German magazine run by the man right above you, Stefan Buecker. It mostly focuses on romantic, gambit or unusual openings, and the quality is always quite high. I was lucky enough to receive most Kaissiber issues in existence right now, and I can testify that the analysis is first rate. It is in German though, but for me that's not a huge drawback.
  
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Re: From's Gambit - Question about a line
Reply #3 - 03/22/10 at 14:20:39
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 03/22/10 at 08:52:03:
13...Rxh2 is known as a mistake since Jepsen - M. A. Jensen, Odense 1997, published in Yearbook 48. For 13. ... Bd7! see Kaissiber #36.


Taylor's book agrees with you. His point was that ECO ends its analysis with 12. ... O-O-O and says the position is unclear, but 13. Be3 seems to favor white. He then shows 4 different tries for black on the 13th move, with Bd7 being the best of the bunch. His main point for the chapter is that the whole Lasker Defense (4. ... g5) seems to be nearly refuted, and black's better try is 4. ... Nf6 5. d4 Ng4 (covered in the following chapter).

Slightly off topic, but I've seen several mentions in these forums to Kaissiber. What is that? From the numbering, it sounds like a magazine or something. Given the name, I'm assuming it's in a language I wouldn't understand, though it's probably useful to learn to read algebraic moves in many languages, even if one can't understand the text.
  

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Re: From's Gambit - Question about a line
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13...Rxh2 is known as a mistake since Jepsen - M. A. Jensen, Odense 1997, published in Yearbook 48. For 13. ... Bd7! see Kaissiber #36.
  
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Re: From's Gambit - Question about a line
Reply #1 - 03/22/10 at 07:54:25
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The problem with keeping the bishop is that black has a lot of pawns on the K-side. I ma afraid that white will soon or later be forced to give his bishop back. So, the question is not whether or not to keep the bishop but when it should happen.
  

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From's Gambit - Question about a line
03/22/10 at 01:33:45
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So I'm reading Timothy Taylor's "Bird's Opening", and I have a question about a line in From's Gambit (page 139 for those playing along at home).

After 1. f4 e5 2. fxe5 d6 3. exd6 Bxd6 4. Nf3 g5 5. g3 g4 6. Nh4 Ne7 7. d4 Ng6 8. Nxg6 hxg6 9. Qd3 Nc6 10. c3 Bf5 11. e4 Qe7 12. Bg2 O-O-O 13. Be3 Rxh2 14. Rxh2 Bxg3+ 15. Kd1 Bxh2 16. exf5 Re8, Taylor gives 17. fxg6, stating that giving back the bishop for a passed pawn on the 7th is the point of white's play here. He then continues with 17. ... Qxe3 18. Qxe3 Rxe3 19. gxf7 Bd6 20. Nd2 Bf8 21. Bxc6 bxc6 22. Kc2 Re2 23. Rf1, stating that white should win with the extra pawn and stronger minor piece.

Is it just me, or does it seem better to keep the extra bishop? I guess at IM and GM level, getting past the middle game to a better endgame is enough to win, but most amateurs don't have endgame technique perfect enough to guarantee that they won't screw it up from that final position. I think I'd keep the extra bishop with 17. Bf2 or something, as I'm much more confident in my ability to win with that much extra material.

*gets back to studying endgames*  Roll Eyes
  

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