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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #37 - 10/26/10 at 22:58:07
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Lou_Cyber wrote on 10/26/10 at 13:20:37:
BobbyDigital80 wrote on 10/26/10 at 06:40:55:
Which line do you play against the Rauzer?


I basically went with the recommendations from Experts vs. the Sicilian and additional advice given here in the Sicilian section.


Oh, I mean what line do you (or would you) play as black against the Rauzer? I'm curious since you said you were having problems finding a good line against the classical Sicilian.
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #36 - 10/26/10 at 13:20:37
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BobbyDigital80 wrote on 10/26/10 at 06:40:55:
Which line do you play against the Rauzer?


I basically went with the recommendations from Experts vs. the Sicilian and additional advice given here in the Sicilian section.
  

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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #35 - 10/26/10 at 07:26:50
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BobbyDigital80 wrote on 10/25/10 at 04:36:33:
Günter Amann wrote on 09/14/10 at 18:33:40:
I am studying the classical Rauzer since i want to use it in my games and i am a little bit afraid of the following endgame although it´s given as not dangerous at all in several books.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd 4.Nd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6
6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nd4 9.Qd4 0-0
10.f4 Qa5 11.e5!? de 12.Qe5 Qe5 13.fe Nd5
14.Be7 Ne7 15.Bd3 b6 16.Be4 Rb8 17.Rhe1 Bb7
18.Rd7 Be4 19.Re4 Nc6 20.Nb5 Rfd8 21.Rd6!
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* 21...Rd6
(21...Rbc8 22.Rc4 Ne5
23.Rc8 Rc8 24.Na7 Rb8 25.Nc6! Nc6 26.Rc6 this position was already analyzed on chesspub but maybe black is even lost in this rook ending? No player including such strong Grandmasters like Miroshnichenko or Baramidze could achieve a draw in this position.22.ed a6 23.Nc7 Rd8 24.Ra4 a5
25.Nb5

White has still presure and black is far away from draw?


What's amazing is that Yermolinsky doesn't mention the 11.e5 line in his book Chess Explained: The Classical Sicilian. How he could omit such a line is inexcusable.


Nevermind, Yermo does mention it. But he just gives a few moves and says Black's fine. Too bad he doesn't go into more detail as this should be considered a main line in the R-R.
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #34 - 10/26/10 at 06:40:55
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Lou_Cyber wrote on 10/25/10 at 08:21:15:
The Classical seems to be underestimated. I am considering to study it from the black side, because
a) i have serious trouble to find something good against it in my white repertoire following Bg5, so I know it can´t be bad for the black side,
b) almost everybody seems to play Bg5, so preparation could be narrowed in comparison to the Najdorf,
c) i am getting a bit tired of my Sveshnikow, especially when playing against weaker players it is difficult to generate winning chances,
d) i still could use my anti-sicilian repertoire following the 2.Nc6 move order.

I just checked my online-book-store. I was surprised that I couldn´t find any actual books or dvds on this topic. There is ofwata No. 12 from the white side, but could anybody give other sources?


Which line do you play against the Rauzer?
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #33 - 10/25/10 at 08:58:45
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Well there are some old books. Not so awful as in some cases as a lot of theory of this was worked out when mega popular at strong GM level, and that was a bit back now.

There's a very thorough book by Wells (Batsford I think) which is genuinely old but may still have a fair bit of relevance in places & maybe going cheap.

Chess explained: the classical Sicillian more recent, if of course not super thorough. Still quite nice coverage.

A lot of coverage on this site a little bit back if less recently - but thats because its got less popular in high end games etc. Conclusions not entirely positive perhaps!

Or of course consult databases for what the Classical die hards are playing.

I do have to agree that an opening so natural and so major for so long simply has to be at least playable somehow Smiley
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #32 - 10/25/10 at 08:21:15
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The Classical seems to be underestimated. I am considering to study it from the black side, because
a) i have serious trouble to find something good against it in my white repertoire following Bg5, so I know it can´t be bad for the black side,
b) almost everybody seems to play Bg5, so preparation could be narrowed in comparison to the Najdorf,
c) i am getting a bit tired of my Sveshnikow, especially when playing against weaker players it is difficult to generate winning chances,
d) i still could use my anti-sicilian repertoire following the 2.Nc6 move order.

I just checked my online-book-store. I was surprised that I couldn´t find any actual books or dvds on this topic. There is ofwata No. 12 from the white side, but could anybody give other sources?
  

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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #31 - 10/25/10 at 04:36:33
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Günter Amann wrote on 09/14/10 at 18:33:40:
I am studying the classical Rauzer since i want to use it in my games and i am a little bit afraid of the following endgame although it´s given as not dangerous at all in several books.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd 4.Nd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6
6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nd4 9.Qd4 0-0
10.f4 Qa5 11.e5!? de 12.Qe5 Qe5 13.fe Nd5
14.Be7 Ne7 15.Bd3 b6 16.Be4 Rb8 17.Rhe1 Bb7
18.Rd7 Be4 19.Re4 Nc6 20.Nb5 Rfd8 21.Rd6!
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* 21...Rd6
(21...Rbc8 22.Rc4 Ne5
23.Rc8 Rc8 24.Na7 Rb8 25.Nc6! Nc6 26.Rc6 this position was already analyzed on chesspub but maybe black is even lost in this rook ending? No player including such strong Grandmasters like Miroshnichenko or Baramidze could achieve a draw in this position.22.ed a6 23.Nc7 Rd8 24.Ra4 a5
25.Nb5

White has still presure and black is far away from draw?


What's amazing is that Yermolinsky doesn't mention the 11.e5 line in his book Chess Explained: The Classical Sicilian. How he could omit such a line is inexcusable.
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #30 - 10/20/10 at 08:26:17
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Günter Amann wrote on 10/19/10 at 19:17:15:
It seems that also the Kozul Variation and the lines with h6 are very dangerous for black?
It would be interesting which line is recommended by the chesspub experts.
Maybe a theme for one of the next open sizilian updates?

In the 7...a6 8.Qd2 h6 line 9.Nc6 bc6 10.Bf4 d5 11.Qe3 is considered most dangerous for black nowadays. Most recent Kozul's defeat in his pet line was vs Vallejo Pons in last olimpiad, but i don't know to what extent is this game theoretically relevant.
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #29 - 10/19/10 at 19:17:15
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It seems that also the Kozul Variation and the lines with h6 are very dangerous for black?
It would be interesting which line is recommended by the chesspub experts.
Maybe a theme for one of the next open sizilian updates?
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #28 - 10/18/10 at 10:53:35
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agropop wrote on 10/18/10 at 09:02:33:
There is also Kotronias' interesting 12...b5. Details of this pawn sac and also commented games in the ending you are studing can be found in NIC yearbook 85.

No need to look in the yearbook, Peter Wells dismisses 12...b5?! in his annotations to Motylev-Miroshnichenko (in the ChessPub Archives).
I note that in the eBook it says 11.e5 "is a safe way to try for a win whilst keeping the draw in hand". If I was Black I definitely wouldn't want to play this line! Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #27 - 10/18/10 at 09:02:33
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Günter Amann wrote on 09/14/10 at 18:33:40:
I am studying the classical Rauzer since i want to use it in my games and i am a little bit afraid of the following endgame although it´s given as not dangerous at all in several books.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd 4.Nd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6
6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nd4 9.Qd4 0-0
10.f4 Qa5 11.e5!? de 12.Qe5 Qe5 13.fe Nd5
14.Be7 Ne7 15.Bd3 b6 16.Be4 Rb8 17.Rhe1 Bb7
18.Rd7 Be4 19.Re4 Nc6 20.Nb5 Rfd8 21.Rd6!
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* 21...Rd6
(21...Rbc8 22.Rc4 Ne5
23.Rc8 Rc8 24.Na7 Rb8 25.Nc6! Nc6 26.Rc6 this position was already analyzed on chesspub but maybe black is even lost in this rook ending? No player including such strong Grandmasters like Miroshnichenko or Baramidze could achieve a draw in this position.22.ed a6 23.Nc7 Rd8 24.Ra4 a5
25.Nb5

White has still presure and black is far away from draw?


There is also Kotronias' interesting 12...b5. Details of this pawn sac and also commented games in the ending you are studing can be found in NIC yearbook 85.
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #26 - 09/14/10 at 18:33:40
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I am studying the classical Rauzer since i want to use it in my games and i am a little bit afraid of the following endgame although it´s given as not dangerous at all in several books.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd 4.Nd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6
6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nd4 9.Qd4 0-0
10.f4 Qa5 11.e5!? de 12.Qe5 Qe5 13.fe Nd5
14.Be7 Ne7 15.Bd3 b6 16.Be4 Rb8 17.Rhe1 Bb7
18.Rd7 Be4 19.Re4 Nc6 20.Nb5 Rfd8 21.Rd6!
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* 21...Rd6
(21...Rbc8 22.Rc4 Ne5
23.Rc8 Rc8 24.Na7 Rb8 25.Nc6! Nc6 26.Rc6 this position was already analyzed on chesspub but maybe black is even lost in this rook ending? No player including such strong Grandmasters like Miroshnichenko or Baramidze could achieve a draw in this position.22.ed a6 23.Nc7 Rd8 24.Ra4 a5
25.Nb5

White has still presure and black is far away from draw?
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #25 - 08/10/10 at 09:53:36
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Also the line with 17...Nb6 18.Bf1 Rfd8 19.Qg4 Rac8!? seems to hold well for Black. Now 20.Bb4 Rxd1 21.Rxd1 Qe8! with the idea 22.Bd3?! Bb5! seems OK and 20.Kb1 Qc5! (now that 21.Qb4?! is not good) 21.Bd3 Na4!? also seems like an equaliser. Are there any developments here that i don't know?
  
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Reply #24 - 08/10/10 at 09:21:15
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I haven't analysed the R-R for 2 years now but in my notes i see
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7 8.
O-O-O O-O 9. f4

(9. f3 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 a6 looked OK for Black in Berg,E (2539)-Kotronias,V (2598) Kusadasi 2006. I think De la Villa proposes this variation for White or am i wrong?)
9... Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Bc4
(The game Cheparinov-Kotronias, Sigeman Chess Tournamnent 2007 went 11. e5 dxe5 12. Qxe5 when Black came up with the interesting novelty 12...b5 )
11... Bd7 12. e5 dxe5 13. fxe5 Bc6 14. Bd2 Nd7 15. Nd5 Qd8 16. Nxe7+ Qxe7 17. Rhe1 Rfc8 (the old move here is 17...Rfd8 and this is Wells' main line in Experts Vs The Sicilian)
18. Qg4!
(Wells proposes 18. Bf1 a5 19. h4 b5 20. Bg5 but Kotronias has played 20...Qf8! and i like Black's position very much)
18... Nf8 19. h4!
(19. Bd3 Ng6 is thought to be equal by theory)
and now the old move was 19...Qc7 but Kotronias played twice
19... Qc5!
In Grischuk,A (2719)-Kotronias,V (2607)
Tripoli 2004/CBM 102, there followed  20. Bd3 Ng6 21. Bc3 Qf2 22. Bxg6 hxg6 23.
Re2 Qf5 24. Qg3
and now the simple 24...Rd8! was strong with no problems for Black.
Gm Berg preffered 20.Bc3 against Kotronias and after
20... Bb5 21.Bd3 he gained a slight edge. Berg proposed 20...h5 21.Qe2 b5 but this also fails to equalise for Black in this sharp position. If an improvement can be found after 20.Bc3, then Black's position is absolutely viable in the R-R (i think!)
  
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Reply #23 - 08/09/10 at 20:55:39
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Reply #22 - 08/09/10 at 20:12:58
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I prefer to respect every source available and not take anything for granted.
  
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Reply #21 - 08/09/10 at 17:35:30
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Well, I believe 6...g6 has been viewed as at least slightly better for White by every theoretical work I've ever seen.  Perhaps I can be forgiven for doubting that Dzindzi's Lab volume xxx has any particular significance.
  
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Reply #20 - 08/09/10 at 17:03:30
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I'd like to hear from the specialists here what do they think that is Black's good attempt to fight against the R-R. I remember Dzindzi proposing g6 in one of his DVD's. Is it so bad?
  
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Reply #19 - 05/14/10 at 00:26:58
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12...a6 with the obvious idea 13...b5 has been played.
There is also 12...h6 idea 13.Bh4 Qh5 but the typical 13.h4 looks murky. Perhaps Black can combine the two ideas with 12...h6 13.h4 and only now ...a6.
This all seems uncharted territory, thus providing a good opportunity to develop your own ideas and test them in practice.
  

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Reply #18 - 05/13/10 at 16:26:57
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Also, what about this line? 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7 8.
O-O-O O-O 9. f4 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Kb1 Rd8 12. Bc4 Bd7 13. Bb3 Bc6 14. f5 exf5 15. Rhf1 Bxe4 16. Nxe4 fxe4 17. Bxf6 Bxf6 18. Rxf6 gxf6 19. Bd5 e3 20. Qxf6 Rf8 21. Qg5+ Kh8 22. Qf6+ Kg8 23. Qg5+ draw. Anyone know if black has alternatives in this?
  
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Reply #17 - 05/12/10 at 09:37:38
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kylemeister wrote on 04/03/10 at 15:22:48:
BobbyDigital80 wrote on 04/03/10 at 12:42:52:
kylemeister wrote on 03/31/10 at 18:12:23:
Well, it seems that the traditional main lines (e.g. 8. 0-0-0 0-0 9. f4 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Bc4 Bd7 12. e5 and 9...h6 10. Bh4 e5) have long been generally considered slightly better for White. 

A GM I think of as being fond of it for Black is Alex Fishbein.

Black can play 11...Rd8 in that first line you gave I think.


Indeed that is one of the possible deviations.  I believe old theory considered it to be clearly better for White, but Richard Palliser recently predicted that it will soar in popularity.  That doesn't seem to have happened yet (I think I found two instances in the last six weeks of TWIC).

I like the ...Rd8 line more than the ...Bd7 line because Black gets to keep the two Bs.
  
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Reply #16 - 04/03/10 at 15:22:48
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BobbyDigital80 wrote on 04/03/10 at 12:42:52:
kylemeister wrote on 03/31/10 at 18:12:23:
Well, it seems that the traditional main lines (e.g. 8. 0-0-0 0-0 9. f4 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Bc4 Bd7 12. e5 and 9...h6 10. Bh4 e5) have long been generally considered slightly better for White. 

A GM I think of as being fond of it for Black is Alex Fishbein.

Black can play 11...Rd8 in that first line you gave I think.


Indeed that is one of the possible deviations.  I believe old theory considered it to be clearly better for White, but Richard Palliser recently predicted that it will soar in popularity.  That doesn't seem to have happened yet (I think I found two instances in the last six weeks of TWIC).
  
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Reply #15 - 04/03/10 at 12:42:52
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kylemeister wrote on 03/31/10 at 18:12:23:
Well, it seems that the traditional main lines (e.g. 8. 0-0-0 0-0 9. f4 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Bc4 Bd7 12. e5 and 9...h6 10. Bh4 e5) have long been generally considered slightly better for White. 

A GM I think of as being fond of it for Black is Alex Fishbein.

Black can play 11...Rd8 in that first line you gave I think.
  
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Reply #14 - 04/01/10 at 13:36:39
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Maybe the most interesting line is: 7. Qd2, a6  8. 0-0-0 Bd7
  

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Reply #13 - 04/01/10 at 13:13:11
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Stigma wrote on 04/01/10 at 02:59:24:
In the specific line you mention MNb, 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 a6 10.f4 b5 a couple of ideas with h4 seem dangerous: 11.Be2 Bb7 12.Bf3 0-0 13.e5 (or even 13.h4!?) 13...Bxf3 14.exf6 gxf6 15.gxf3 fxg5 16.Ne4 d5 17.h4 and the Black king is getting ripped open.


Black doesn't have to castle. 10.f4 b5 11.Be2 Bb7 12.Bf3 Rc8 and Qc7 look better. Sure Black's kingside gets torn apart again, but then Black is playing an improved version of the good old Botvinnik system! Pair of bishops compensates for the weakened pawn structure. Compare Suetin-Botvinnik, URSch 1952.

Stigma wrote on 04/01/10 at 03:18:28:
I looked up what De la Villa (himself a Classical player!) had to say on these lines
6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 a6 10.Kb1! b5 11.e5!

10...0-0 (iso b5) 11.f3 Nxe4! (exclam mine) or 11.f4 b5 12.Bxf6 Bxf6! (again mine) 13.Qxd6 Qxd6 14.Rxd6 Bxc3 15.bxc3 Bb7 16.Bd3 hmmm, White seems to have an endgame edge indeed. And after 11.f4 h6 there is the thematical piece sac 12.h4!? see Sulskis-Arutinian, Petrosjan Mem 2004.
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Reply #12 - 04/01/10 at 03:26:44
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Stigma wrote on 04/01/10 at 02:59:24:
Using the same move order, 8...a6 9.f4 Bd7!? seems to be the next hot line on GM level.


But that's just an old main line by transposition.


Sure. I just noticed on my database that it has scored well lately. Within the last year Vorobiov, Ivanchuk, Greenfeld and Mamedov have used it. So it's a serious fallback option if the currently popular Be7/Nxd4/a6 setup gets into trouble.
  

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Stigma wrote on 04/01/10 at 02:59:24:
Using the same move order, 8...a6 9.f4 Bd7!? seems to be the next hot line on GM level.


But that's just an old main line by transposition.
  
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Reply #10 - 04/01/10 at 03:18:28
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I looked up what De la Villa (himself a Classical player!) had to say on these lines, and he avoids the f2-f4 main lines in various ways (all exclamation marks his):

6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 0-0 10.f3!
6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 a6 10.Kb1! b5 11.e5!
6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 a6 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Bc4! (or 9.f3.)
  

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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #9 - 04/01/10 at 02:59:24
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I haven't seen Kramnik play the Classical since year 2000 or something. How many decades will it take for people to stop using his patronage of it back then as an argument, I wonder...

Current top player who use it occasionally include Ivanchuk, Mamedyarov, Nakamura and Morozevich. More steady current GM users : Malakhov, Dreev, Jobava, Miroshnichenko, Baklan, Kozul, Nijboer, Gupta etc. etc. For years it seems to have been particularly popular in certain countries, like Israel, USA and the former Yugoslavia.

In the specific line you mention MNb, 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 a6 10.f4 b5 a couple of ideas with h4 seem dangerous: 11.Be2 Bb7 12.Bf3 0-0 13.e5 (or even 13.h4!?) 13...Bxf3 14.exf6 gxf6 15.gxf3 fxg5 16.Ne4 d5 17.h4 and the Black king is getting ripped open.

Using the same move order, 8...a6 9.f4 Bd7!? seems to be the new hot line on GM level.
  

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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #8 - 04/01/10 at 01:56:25
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Markovich wrote on 03/31/10 at 19:36:09:
I think comments like 'play the Svesh instead' are facile.  There's a whole pile of chess in the Classical, and personally I'm not prepared to say it smells bad.


Neither am I. Last time I looked at it from White's point of view I had no idea how to meet 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 a6 10.f4 b5 or 10.Bc4 0-0. When I asked about it I received the answer (I paraphrase): "what do you expect, Kramnik relies on this".
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Reply #7 - 03/31/10 at 19:50:04
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Seach me, ask Palliser.  As for Benko's ...Qb6, a lot of people think this cure is worse than the disease.
  

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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #6 - 03/31/10 at 19:46:50
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that sounds good Markovic.  can't the velimirovic/sozin be sidestepped by 6...Qb6?  I think Kramnik even played this!  By the way who playing the black side besides Kozul??
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #5 - 03/31/10 at 19:36:09
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Palliser in a recent update said that this has made a pretty big reappearance during the past year or so, so I'm not so sure that it's not played that much at the top.

I respect 'reverse,' but I think comments like 'play the Svesh instead' are facile.  There's a whole pile of chess in the Classical, and personally I'm not prepared to say it smells bad. 

I do think there's a lot of learning to do, since you have to face not only the Rauzer but also the Sozin and its hugely intimidating Velimirovich offshoot.
  

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Reply #4 - 03/31/10 at 19:13:01
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I think 9. f3! is quite strong as well.
  
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Reply #3 - 03/31/10 at 18:12:23
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Well, it seems that the traditional main lines (e.g. 8. 0-0-0 0-0 9. f4 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Qa5 11. Bc4 Bd7 12. e5 and 9...h6 10. Bh4 e5) have long been generally considered slightly better for White. 

A GM I think of as being fond of it for Black is Alex Fishbein.
  
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #2 - 03/31/10 at 17:57:05
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I think Bxf6 ideas may be the reason.  White has good activity.  Seems like the Kan (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 4.d4 cd 5.Nxd4 a6) Sveshnikov and Najdorf are the big sicilians.  I included the kan as Dismataling the Sicilian rated it 5 stars!!!  I think the above 3 give black a more active and solid position then the Rauzer.  Hopefully a stronger player will add to these ideas.  If the Rauzer wasn't a problem I think we would see many more classsical sicilians.  I wish I was wrong as I would definatly play it but then again at my level.....
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Re: Classical Rauzer
Reply #1 - 03/31/10 at 17:44:00
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sveshnikov is better....more reliable
  
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Classical Rauzer
03/31/10 at 07:50:47
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The classical Rauzer, 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7, is nice for black. I wonder why almost no one at the top plays this anymore. Anand, Kramnik, and Shirov played this a lot in the past. I think it's underrated. Why is it so rare now?
  
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