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Re: Again on the Kalshnikov
Reply #56 - 01/12/11 at 21:12:56
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TonyRo wrote on 01/12/11 at 13:48:18:
Markovich wrote on 01/12/11 at 13:32:59:
Quite sensible decisions, it seems to me.  I do think that one of the key issues with the Kalashnikov is that Black has to face not only the Rossolimo (as you will know, there are many Sveshnikov players who prefer to reach their pet system via 2...e6, just to avoid it), but also that 3.Nc3 move order business.  I'll be interested to see what you recommend for Black in either case.  If I were a Kalash player, I think I would play 3...e5 against the latter and 2...e6 against the former.

In any case, I'm very much looking forward to this book.

@Bibs:  I think the 7...Be7 line is well reputed these days.  There are some hardcore Kalash practitioners who rely on it without, so far as I'm aware, any obvious problems emerging.  I agree though, it's the critical line, without which the Kalash would be hard to play.

P.S. Unrelatedly, I'm not sure about that 2...e6 route to the Sveshnikov, given that White has various ways to challenge 2...e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6, most notably 6.Nxc6, but also dangerous gambit ideas.  It's not so obvious to me that it's better than just playing 2...Nc6, especially since a Svesh player can answer 3.Nc3 with 3...Nf6.


If you mean 3...e5 against 3. Nc3 and 3...e6 against 3. Bb5, then we're on the same wavelength!


Fantastic!  It's aways great when a new book supports your preconceptions.  Roll Eyes

But once again unrelatedly, I think that the Kalash would combine nicely with the Modern Benoni in a repertoire, with 1.c4 and 1.Nf3 both met by my favorite rejoinder, 1...c5.  Both the Kalash and the M.B. have these fixed pawn structures and offer Black a reasonable degree of activity in exchange for his weak pawns.  The weakest is on d6 either way, not that that means anything, but it's funny.
  

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Reply #55 - 01/12/11 at 14:11:43
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Markovich wrote on 01/12/11 at 13:32:59:
Quite sensible decisions, it seems to me.  I do think that one of the key issues with the Kalashnikov is that Black has to face not only the Rossolimo (as you will know, there are many Sveshnikov players who prefer to reach their pet system via 2...e6, just to avoid it), but also that 3.Nc3 move order business.  I'll be interested to see what you recommend for Black in either case.  If I were a Kalash player, I think I would play 3...e5 against the latter and 2...e6 against the former.

In any case, I'm very much looking forward to this book.

@Bibs:  I think the 7...Be7 line is well reputed these days.  There are some hardcore Kalash practitioners who rely on it without, so far as I'm aware, any obvious problems emerging.  I agree though, it's the critical line, without which the Kalash would be hard to play.

P.S. Unrelatedly, I'm not sure about that 2...e6 route to the Sveshnikov, given that White has various ways to challenge 2...e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6, most notably 6.Nxc6, but also dangerous gambit ideas.  It's not so obvious to me that it's better than just playing 2...Nc6, especially since a Svesh player can answer 3.Nc3 with 3...Nf6.


Basically, my take was to play 3...d6 after Nf3/Nc3 and head for a dragon.
But, never came up. Club players, in fact most below say 2300 are not flexible, are very narrow in their repertoires. So no Nc3, Nf3 worries. People shouldn't worry about that too much for practical purposes imho.

Yes, ...Be7 largely holding up as far as remember. THE key line. Though I still punt Ne7s and only got found out once.

One dodgy long Be7 line, with slightly depressing situation, wish I could remember. Didn't save, just played through,very amateurish. Ikonnikov game maybe? Will try to look again some time for it, though sure TonyRo well on the case.

Unrelated, agree that e6 no way for non-gms to go for Svesh.
  
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Re: Again on the Kalshnikov
Reply #54 - 01/12/11 at 13:48:18
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Markovich wrote on 01/12/11 at 13:32:59:
Quite sensible decisions, it seems to me.  I do think that one of the key issues with the Kalashnikov is that Black has to face not only the Rossolimo (as you will know, there are many Sveshnikov players who prefer to reach their pet system via 2...e6, just to avoid it), but also that 3.Nc3 move order business.  I'll be interested to see what you recommend for Black in either case.  If I were a Kalash player, I think I would play 3...e5 against the latter and 2...e6 against the former.

In any case, I'm very much looking forward to this book.

@Bibs:  I think the 7...Be7 line is well reputed these days.  There are some hardcore Kalash practitioners who rely on it without, so far as I'm aware, any obvious problems emerging.  I agree though, it's the critical line, without which the Kalash would be hard to play.

P.S. Unrelatedly, I'm not sure about that 2...e6 route to the Sveshnikov, given that White has various ways to challenge 2...e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6, most notably 6.Nxc6, but also dangerous gambit ideas.  It's not so obvious to me that it's better than just playing 2...Nc6, especially since a Svesh player can answer 3.Nc3 with 3...Nf6.


If you mean 3...e5 against 3. Nc3 and 3...e6 against 3. Bb5, then we're on the same wavelength!
  
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Quite sensible decisions, it seems to me.  I do think that one of the key issues with the Kalashnikov is that Black has to face not only the Rossolimo (as you will know, there are many Sveshnikov players who prefer to reach their pet system via 2...e6, just to avoid it), but also that 3.Nc3 move order business.  I'll be interested to see what you recommend for Black in either case.  If I were a Kalash player, I think I would play 3...e5 against the latter and 2...e6 against the former.

In any case, I'm very much looking forward to this book.

@Bibs:  I think the 7...Be7 line is well reputed these days.  There are some hardcore Kalash practitioners who rely on it without, so far as I'm aware, any obvious problems emerging.  I agree though, it's the critical line, without which the Kalash would be hard to play.

P.S. Unrelatedly, I'm not sure about that 2...e6 route to the Sveshnikov, given that White has various ways to challenge 2...e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6, most notably 6.Nxc6, but also dangerous gambit ideas.  It's not so obvious to me that it's better than just playing 2...Nc6, especially since a Svesh player can answer 3.Nc3 with 3...Nf6.
  

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Reply #52 - 01/12/11 at 13:19:17
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I tend to agree with that sentiment, however, my publisher doesn't, and that's okay. I can see their point of view - the Kalashnikov isn't particularly popular these days, and to make it a worthwhile venture, there needs to be a focus on making it into a repertoire that anyone can pick up and learn, rather than making it into a Kalashnikov book for specialists that doesn't sell as well. It's pretty much double the work, but it's certainly more value for either the Kalashnikov specialists who wil get more in the way of new ideas, and for the people new to the Sicilian, who will get everything they need to start off strong.

Doing the Anti-Sicilians hasn't affected my coverage of the Kalashnikov in any way. I did a lot of the analysis on these lines before I even had the book, and the page count is probably  going to shape up in a way such that the Kalashnikov stuff is a book in and of itself! In every main line I generally give two ways to play - one with ...f5 straight away and one in the more solid and positional lines. The only line that doesn't get double treatment is the 7...Be7!? line because I don't think there's anything else that's really that good for Black besides heading back into the Sveshnikov. Even the Bd3 stuff does, when two positional lines are discussed.
  
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Reply #51 - 01/12/11 at 12:04:49
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Schaakhamster wrote on 01/12/11 at 10:51:34:
TonyRo wrote on 01/10/11 at 21:12:36:
FM Dikkie wrote on 01/10/11 at 18:47:21:
Hi Tony,
Does it also cover the Grand Prix attack?
I'm very interested in setup against that one. Smiley


It will cover all of the major Anti-Sicilians, yes. 3. Bb5, 2. c3, Closed, GPA, Big Clamp, Accelerated Grand Prix Attack, Smith Morra, Wing Gambit, and a few of the odd minor options as well, I anticipate.


It is recommendable that you want to be thorough. But doesn't it take too much away from the main stuff? I'm all for including stuff on anti-sicilians if they can be linked to the main stuff: transpositions or similar strategies, ... . But sometimes I do wonder if it isn't overkill to want to cover everything.

Anyway it's more of a philosophical thought.

   


Agree with Mr Hamster there.
Necessary to cover Nf3/Bb5, perhaps Nf3, Nc3. As directly Kalashnikov concerns. (Though I personally never faced Nf3/Nc3 a single time in a few hundred games, but, yeah,  times change.)
Focus on Kalash stuff. Am very interested in what you come up with in the Nc3, Be7 lines. As far as I am concerned the Nge7, Nce7 lines are busted.
Very best of luck, don't be distracted.



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Reply #50 - 01/12/11 at 10:51:34
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TonyRo wrote on 01/10/11 at 21:12:36:
FM Dikkie wrote on 01/10/11 at 18:47:21:
Hi Tony,
Does it also cover the Grand Prix attack?
I'm very interested in setup against that one. Smiley


It will cover all of the major Anti-Sicilians, yes. 3. Bb5, 2. c3, Closed, GPA, Big Clamp, Accelerated Grand Prix Attack, Smith Morra, Wing Gambit, and a few of the odd minor options as well, I anticipate.


It is recommendable that you want to be thorough. But doesn't it take too much away from the main stuff? I'm all for including stuff on anti-sicilians if they can be linked to the main stuff: transpositions or similar strategies, ... . But sometimes I do wonder if it isn't overkill to want to cover everything.

Anyway it's more of a philosophical thought.

  
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Reply #49 - 01/10/11 at 21:12:36
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FM Dikkie wrote on 01/10/11 at 18:47:21:
Hi Tony,
Does it also cover the Grand Prix attack?
I'm very interested in setup against that one. Smiley


It will cover all of the major Anti-Sicilians, yes. 3. Bb5, 2. c3, Closed, GPA, Big Clamp, Accelerated Grand Prix Attack, Smith Morra, Wing Gambit, and a few of the odd minor options as well, I anticipate.
  
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Reply #48 - 01/10/11 at 18:47:21
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Does it also cover the Grand Prix attack?
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Reply #47 - 01/10/11 at 10:48:45
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Hahaha, Nikos is my name. It comes from Nikolaos. Or just Nick if you prefer.  Smiley
  
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Reply #46 - 01/10/11 at 10:13:00
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TonyRo wrote on 01/08/11 at 23:45:30:
Schaakhamster wrote on 01/08/11 at 20:08:48:
TonyRo wrote on 09/21/10 at 13:14:52:
Thanks! I'm hoping it will be a masterpiece, but only time will tell.

I contacted Everyman with the idea, wrote them a sample, and that at least opened the door.


Hey how is the project coming along?


Slower than I expected, perhaps because I didn't know how much work it was going to be, but good! I am about 95% done with the Kalashnikov, and I also have 3. Nc3!? and the Closed Sicilian wrapped up as well. The 3. Bb5 chapter is perhaps 50% done, and I have a decent start on 2. c3 as well.

I quite like what I've done so far, and I think it will be quite a bit stronger than other books in both instilling some understanding and extending the theory way farther than it is right now. Hopefully everyone will like it and the Kalashnikov will make a mini-come back, but only time will tell!

Thanks for the interest, and the vote of confidence Nikos!

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who's Nikos?  Smiley

Anyway, looking forward to your book!
  
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Schaakhamster wrote on 01/08/11 at 20:08:48:
TonyRo wrote on 09/21/10 at 13:14:52:
Thanks! I'm hoping it will be a masterpiece, but only time will tell.

I contacted Everyman with the idea, wrote them a sample, and that at least opened the door.


Hey how is the project coming along?


Slower than I expected, perhaps because I didn't know how much work it was going to be, but good! I am about 95% done with the Kalashnikov, and I also have 3. Nc3!? and the Closed Sicilian wrapped up as well. The 3. Bb5 chapter is perhaps 50% done, and I have a decent start on 2. c3 as well.

I quite like what I've done so far, and I think it will be quite a bit stronger than other books in both instilling some understanding and extending the theory way farther than it is right now. Hopefully everyone will like it and the Kalashnikov will make a mini-come back, but only time will tell!

Thanks for the interest, and the vote of confidence Nikos!

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Reply #44 - 01/08/11 at 20:40:15
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I hope it does well but i also have trust to Tony. Aagaard/Pinski book was the first opening book i ordered from the internet and many years now i try to find excuses to return to the love of the past: The Kalashnikov. Also, after seeing the English Attack becoming so popular at club level against Taimanovs, Dragons, Najdorfs and Sheveninghens, the ...e5 Sicilians seem to offer a good (at least practical) choice. And Svesh seems to be so "heavy" now in theory (after the easiest Sicilian was published).
  
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TonyRo wrote on 09/21/10 at 13:14:52:
Thanks! I'm hoping it will be a masterpiece, but only time will tell.

I contacted Everyman with the idea, wrote them a sample, and that at least opened the door.


Hey how is the project coming along?
  
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Reply #42 - 09/26/10 at 17:38:09
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I have pinski and aagaard's book. They mention this line with 7..Be7 and get a page or two of coverage. It seems like white isn't really putting any pressure on black in the line they give.  I'll try and find my book and the line later.
  
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