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Re: Looking for full game notations
Reply #4 - 05/06/10 at 18:42:05
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@Smyslov_Fan: The position of Wolpert vs. Zatulovskaya was reprinted in "Das 1x1 des Endspiels" by HH Staudte and M. Milescu, wrongly giving Shakhmaty v SSSR 1960 as source (while it is 02/1961, p.45).
  
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Re: Looking for full game notations
Reply #3 - 05/06/10 at 10:06:26
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I'm sceptical about the chances to discover anything about the full Simagin-Bronstein game. Other authorities were also unable to dig it out so far. http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/winter50.html
(Edward Winter's Chess Notes 5746, 5760.)
  
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Re: Looking for full game notations
Reply #2 - 05/06/10 at 01:59:39
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I am sure I've seen the Simagin-Bronstein position before, and I think it was in one of the Dvoretsky books. 

The other also looks vaguely familiar, but that's going to be harder to place. 

I'll look around and see if there's any reference to those positions in my books.
  
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Re: Looking for full game notations
Reply #1 - 05/05/10 at 19:52:19
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Wladimir Sokolow (Heilbronn) provided page 45 from Shakhmaty v SSSR 02/1961 which includes move numbers.

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Wolpert vs. Zatulovskaya

41...Ke7 42.Kd5 Kf8 43.Kc6 Kg7 44.Kc7 Kh7 45.Kd7 Kh8 46.g5 hxg5 47.Ke7 f5 48.exf5 e4?? 49.fxe4 g4 50.Kxf7! g3 51.f6 g2 52.Ke8 g1Q 53.f7 and white won.
  
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Looking for full game notations
05/05/10 at 02:28:14
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Can anyone provide the full notation for these games?

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Larissa Wolpert vs Tatyana Zatulovskaya
USSR team championship 1960

The game continued 1...e4 2.fxe4 g4 3.Kxf7 g3 4.f6 g2 5.Ke8 g1Q 6.f7 and white won later. No other moves from this game have unearthed to me so far.

The interesting point is that black could have drawn the position, as found by Bondarevsky 1960, and I have used this in a study.

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Vladimir Simagin vs. David Bronstein, Moscow championship 1947

Black played 1...h4 and lost: 2.Qxd6 Qg2+ 3.Kb3 h3 4.Qd7+ Kg8 5.f5 h2 6.Bg5!! h1Q 7.Qe8+ Kg7 8.Qg6+ Kf8 9.Qxf6+ Kg8 10.Qd8+ Kg7 11.Qe8+ Kg7 12.Qe7+ and black resigned.

see Winter 5746, http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/winter50.html

I think the game was played in the playoffs. Does anyone know the time regulations for the Moscow championship 1947 playoffs? Simagin drew with Bronstein and Rivinsky at 9/14 points but won the playoff matches (according to Wikipedia).


Sadly, a while back the Moscow Central Chess Club archivar Elisabeta Bykowa has died (March 1989 to be precise), leaving me without a connection to that club where the full notation may rest.
  
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