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I have a Smartphone and use chess Apps    
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I don't have a smartphone    
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I will get a smartphone    
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Vidit wrote on 08/12/10 at 06:46:27:
First of all it is a gr8 idea and I am thankful to you for it.One more thing I wanted to ask you is,That I am owing a touchscreen phone of Samsung,The screen is not quite large but it is okay.My question is whether this application of urs run in my phone or I will need Iphone?

I appreciate your kind comment. I am sorry but you will have to wait for Smart Chess that will work on your smartphone. What kind is it? Is it a Blackberry, or a Google Android or a Motorola Droid X?

Our first release of Smart Chess is only for the Apple family of products (iPhone, iPad and iTouch).

We are working on releasing versions (middle of next year) for every smartphones with touch screen capabilities.

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It is Samsung..I dont which operating system it uses..but I hope u release a version for other phones too.I have sent a pm to you about the details
  

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Vidit wrote on 08/12/10 at 06:46:27:
First of all it is a gr8 idea and I am thankful to you for it.One more thing I wanted to ask you is,That I am owing a touchscreen phone of Samsung,The screen is not quite large but it is okay.My question is whether this application of urs run in my phone or I will need Iphone?

I appreciate your kind comment. I am sorry but you will have to wait for Smart Chess that will work on your smartphone. What kind is it? Is it a Blackberry, or a Google Android or a Motorola Droid X?

Our first release of Smart Chess is only for the Apple family of products (iPhone, iPad and iTouch).

We are working on releasing versions (middle of next year) for every smartphones with touch screen capabilities.

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sagwa wrote on 08/12/10 at 09:52:19:
Will your apps for smart phone run on the iPad?
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Yes. All the contents you buy for the iPhone will work on your iTouch or iPad. You only pay once for the contents in this family of devices.

However, you pay a different price for the iPad version of Smart Chess itself in version 2 since by that time they will be almost different products. Smart Chess 1.0, however, will work on your iPhone and iPad - one price ($4.99), one download.

In other words, Smart Chess 2.0 for iPhone and Smart Chess 2.0 for iPad will be different products (we are taking advantage of hardware capabilities in the iPad, i.e., bigger screen size). The iPad version will be just $2 more.

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Will your apps for smart phone run on the iPad?

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First of all it is a gr8 idea and I am thankful to you for it.One more thing I wanted to ask you is,That I am owing a touchscreen phone of Samsung,The screen is not quite large but it is okay.My question is whether this application of urs run in my phone or I will need Iphone?
  

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slates wrote on 08/11/10 at 20:39:04:
I think there's a definite need for a good FICS client and I would willingly hand over my £5 for one of these alone in the App Store, and would pay more than that for Smart Chess if it could become the complete all round chess app.


Thank you Slates for your sentiments and suggestions. I was right about the ChessPub community being a great source of product ideas.

Incorporating a FICS/ICC client in Smart Chess is definitely worth pursuing.

On the drawing table also is remote connectivity to a PC or servers for engine analysis. We are even thinking of renting out analysis time to folks who want mini-computing power for some of their opening analysis.

We just built a computer, we nicknamed The HULK, for this kind of deep opening analysis. It has 24 Gigs of memory and two solid state hard drives to boost speed and power on top of the two Intel Xeon X5680 3.33GHz 6-Core processors.

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Reply #48 - 08/11/10 at 20:39:04
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The App Store needs a decent FICS client, in my opinion.  I have bought iphone versions of Shredder, Fritz, Hiarcs and about 4 FICS/ICC clients, but none of those clients really get the job done without some kind of drawback.  I'll probably buy Smart Chess anyway, but if it's going to have an engine (something like Glaurung is surely more than sufficient for most players, and evidently easy/inexpensive to implement) it may as well go the whole hog and incorporate a good client, too.  The app could clean up the market if it does this. I notice that Fritz (iphone app) tried recently to introduce a database, but it's not very user-friendly, otherwise that's a good idea, and they are now apparently about to introduce live online games, although how they do this remains to be seen, although i don't think it is via FICS or ICC.  I think there's a definite need for a good FICS client and I would willingly hand over my £5 for one of these alone in the App Store, and would pay more than that for Smart Chess if it could become the complete all round chess app. Theres another little app called Chesstutor Lite (not sure where the full version is yet?!) which has a kind of 'Guess the next move' feature but only has a couple of games at present....but thats a nice idea for a smartphone, as there is no temptation to 'accidentally' read the line below to find the answer.....
Everything else you've talked about seems promising and I can't wait to see the app when it comes out, but I still wait for the day I can get a stable and easy to play game on FICS using my iphone. For reference, I currently have Magnus' Online Chess, Cyber Chess, Handy Chess and iChess Pack as FICS clients, plus the engines I mentioned earlier and then a number of openings related and database chess apps....I've spent a reasonable amount of money on the 20 or so chess apps I currently have and yet I definitely think that if you do Smart Chess well it could clean up on all these fronts and make some good money.
  
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Reply #47 - 08/11/10 at 17:19:31
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I noticed considerable interest in this thread. Please post some ideas and suggestions for Smart Chess. I do not want to miss out on wonderful ideas from a fertile source like the ChessPub congregation. Even your questions sometimes give us great ideas.

For subscribers who do not own a smart phone or iPad, we are releasing a version for the PC aptly called Smart Chess PC. Current subscribers will get to experience chess content in Smart Chess without buying the native devices for it.
Theory updates for current subscribers invoking the grandfather clause will likely get the updates at no charge in the Smart Chess PC environment. We really want input with regards to access and pricing schemes from folks here.

So fire away.

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Willempie wrote on 08/06/10 at 20:56:35:
I quite like the concept.

Great!

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I do have some questions however (as I am not well versed in the smart phones):
-Can I also down- and upload them to/from my computer and read them there (or even better download them directly on my computer) so that I have the files readable on the pc? When I then have to travel I can select the ones I want to read and upload them to my phone or pad.

Answer: First, I am sorry for the delay in my response.
We are already working on the PC version. As you know, we have yet to release Version 1. Our release date is a moving target but we are getting closer to the big launch. (Even Microsoft, given its size, has never met its release dates.)
In Version 1.0, once you download and install an update or a book, it will be always in your device for your use anywhere and anytime. Soon, you will be able to do the same on your Smart Chess PC. Users who do not own a smart phone or iPad can still use the PC to consume the content (ChessPub update or any book). Your notebook will be like your iPad or smart phone - in that once the content has been downloaded - it will be there for your use without the need to access the ChessPub site.
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-Is there some sort of alarm system that alerts you to a newly available update?

Yes, you will get a notice just like you do now with any app you bought from the Apple store except that the ChessPub Updates are not free. Updates to Smart Chess itself is free, of course.
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-Is the format interchangeable with pgn? Could be handy when you want to analyse on the pc.

I am afraid not because these are copyrighted materials and cannot be changed. But, you can always do the analysis with the pgn updates that you get from ChessPub.
With regards to books, lessons, puzzles, and ChessPub updates, Smart Chess is merely a platform on which you can consume chess content in a much cleaner format. Remember, our differentiating capability is the ability (option) for the user to see all nested lines and cited games without worry of following the right lines.

Version 1 will allow you though to load your pgn (user-created) in Smart Chess using your computer. The function is available and will be a painless process for you. We eliminated the need to go to some url as in other existing apps to load user-created pgn files.

We believe engines on smart phones or even iPad will never catch up with their counterparts in the PC arena due to hardware limitations. Serious players will always rely on the PC versions. We also believe it is a disservice to our customers to give them the notion that what Smart Chess is saying about a given book or ChessPub update position is reliable. Smart Chess is not designed for this purpose. You will need a different tool for that.
  
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Willempie wrote on 08/06/10 at 20:56:35:
I quite like the concept.

Yep, me too. Looks like I will have to go out and buy myself an iPhone now. Roll Eyes
  
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I quite like the concept. If I understand correctly you download the update (cutting your need for accessing the web and thus cutting costs for me) in smart chess format and then you can use it.

I do have some questions however (as I am not well versed in the smart phones):
-Can I also down- and upload them to/from my computer and read them there (or even better download them directly on my computer) so that I have the files readable on the pc? When I then have to travel I can select the ones I want to read and upload them to my phone or pad.
-Is there some sort of alarm system that alerts you to a newly available update?
-Is the format interchangeable with pgn? Could be handy when you want to analyse on the pc.
  

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proustiskeen wrote on 08/06/10 at 18:36:12:
Question - will current Chesspublishing subscribers have free access to subscribed materials, or will they have to pay again to access the updates via this app?

Unfortunately, no. Technically, you do not access these updates. Essentially, they are new products. You will have to download these updates to your device (iPhone, iPad, iTouch, other smart phones).

I hope you are not offended but it is similar to what Everyman Chess is doing with their paperbacks when converting them into eBooks. Would you say then that those who already bought their paperbacks should be given free downloads? As a matter of fact, they are selling their eBooks for $19.95 a piece. Since we like them, we also pay for them.

So there is a small price to pay for the convenience of consuming these updates (content) in a different environment. We incur costs in producing these content in Smart Chess format.

While they are the same content, they are delivered and consumed in a different way and the consumer is availed a totally different learning experience. However, we are not quite sure yet as to how much we would be pricing the updates. But it will be cheap if you think of its value. Plus, current subscribers will get to pick and choose only the Smart Chess updates they only want to consume in their respective devices. The rest you can consume as you do now via the browser or Chessbase.

We are trying to reach new markets - mostly those not already subscribed to ChessPublishing.com. However, current subscribers may choose to consume the updates outside of the current mode of access, that is, through the web via a device.

We are open to offering discounts to existing ChessPublishing.com subscribers.

ChessPublishing.com is not selling the Smart Chess updates, but we are - so it will not be right to ask Tony to absorb the cost by simply allowing current subscribers a free pass to Smart Chess updates.

I hope this satisfies your question. We are open to suggestions. Currently, I am thinking of pricing the updates for $0.99, whether it be in groups of twos or threes. In groups of twos, there will be 6 each month. In groups of threes, there will be 5 each month. Or, simply $0.99 for each update, 12 in all.

The eBooks for sure will be sold separately but will be priced inexpensively, as well. They require more time and effort to produce. It will be unlike Everyman's eBooks - totally different. The presentation scheme is much cleaner and again, you get to take the updates with you anywhere and study them anytime without needing to connect to the net.

Any ideas? Anyone?
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Question - will current Chesspublishing subscribers have free access to subscribed materials, or will they have to pay again to access the updates via this app?
  
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adh2050 wrote on 08/06/10 at 02:49:48:
How the Products catalog would look in the iPhone. http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/981/iphone28productcatalog.th.png

If you look carefully, the Anti-Sicilians July Update by GM Shaw is listed on the product page.
  
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Looks promising, although the prospect of buying books that I've already got a hard copy of, in the hope that I might actually read them, rather depresses me....  Smiley

I know what you mean. On a more positive note, the app may just get you now to actually read those books.

One major obstacle in my experience to reading all these hard copy books is the nested lines within nested lines. Smart Chess will let you go through them painlessly.

I never read Dvoretsky's books because he is fond of giving out multiple nested lines within nested lines. Has anyone tried reading Chapter 1 of Dvoretsky's Analytical Manual?

One reason novices are turned off by chess books is the confusing parentheses and brackets that separate nested lines. If you are not careful, you could be following the wrong line even with a board.

I own paperback books I cannot wait to consume in Smart Chess myself.
  
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Looks promising, although the prospect of buying books that I've already got a hard copy of, in the hope that I might actually read them, rather depresses me....  Smiley
  

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How the Products catalog would look in the iPhone.
  
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A lesson page in the iPhone.

  
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Double click on the image to see a better rendering.

Above is how a lesson or a page in a book would look like in the iPad.
Thanks to Gorath and Willempie for their help.
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Andres, I was on one of those waiting lists and the device exceeded my expectations (except for the lack of chess stuff.)
-there is a lot of scepticism on some of the websites-witness the following quote from a moderator on a CB orientated site.


[i]T[i]he market for chess products is relatively small, so a new platform (like the iPad) will have to establish itself as a considerable mainstream success before Chessbase (or any other chess software company) considers putting the resources into creating a product for it.

I wouldn't hold your breath, but if we are all using tablets instead of laptops in a few years time, then the software will follow.

Personally, I have my doubts about the iPad replacing desktop pc's or laptops, but I think it might be popular as a gaming device.

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On not being able to create your own data on the IPAD maybe there should be a program that allows you to do such things on the computer that the iphone or ipad syncs to. If you ever write one, just make sure its available in mac too.


  
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Upload the pic to ImageShack or a similar service and use the embed option of your choice. They should have a collection on the generated page for your picture.
Appropiate would be a thumbnail for the forum. Then a click on the thumb opens the pic in a new window.


Save both the link to your pic-homepage and the deletion link if you want to make the web forget about the pic later. Wink
  
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I guess, I did not know how to post a graphic here. Help! Anyone?

You cant move them from the hd, you can only link to pictures, so they must be on the www.
  

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@browniesbane,

Over 4M iPads have been sold to date. Most stores are sold out and are maintaining a reservation system.

When was the last time you heard of consumers getting on a reservation system for something that costs $699 and upwards?"

They limit two iPads per family. Only businesses can get more.

I saw a story that even Glamour magazine is making a comeback because of the iPad. The device came out at the most fortuitous time for Smart Chess.

I heard some schools are now handing out iPads.

The only downside (I am sure there are more) is the iPad's inability to allow the user to create content. It will only allow you (so far) to consume content.

I will ask Tony later if I can post screen shots of Smart Chess here. I am sure he will not mind one for now.

If you wish to see more rather than wait for the release, send me a message and I will email them to you.

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Yes. We are releasing Smart Chess in Google Android, Motorola Droid X and other smart phones.

We write our contracts to allow us to port to any new devices that are known now or yet to be introduced.

It turns out people like to interact as they learn a new thing so touch screen is a boon to chess.

Blackberry is a technical challenge (believe it or not), but we love the challenge and the millions of Blackberry users out there.

Just to make it clear, when you consume the theory updates in Smart Chess, you are not connecting to ChessPub's website and use the JavaScript to play through the moves.

We actually process the update into Smart Chess. Once you download the update to your device (iPad, iPhone, etc.), you can consume it anytime and anywhere. You are not chained to a computer or the Web.

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adh2050 wrote on 08/05/10 at 00:02:56:
It's official!
Tony has signed an exclusive licensing agreement to port the 12 monthly updates in Smart Chess. ChessPub fans everywhere will soon be able to enjoy these high-quality opening updates in their iPhones, iTouch, iPads, Google Android, Motorola Droid X and other smart phones or devices using touch-screen - anywhere and anytime.

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Blackberry??
  

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It would be nice to get data (puzzles games etc.) on a smartphone, but the IPAD is the real deal--I think it can be a game changer for the study of chess. Making chessbooks interactive; being able some day to switch easily from a book to a video etc. True, you would still want a regular computer for heavy database work and heavy duty computer analysis, but everything else is more naturally done on an IPAD.

Anyway, there aren't a lot of IPADs out there yet, but I hope that doesn't discourage the development of software and data that uses the best features of the new device.

My concern is that the major chess database/ data providers
here are stuck in a comfort zone (or less charitably are acting like monopolies) and are not interested in developing for these new devices, but this thread gives me hope.

  
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It's official!
Tony has signed an exclusive licensing agreement to port the 12 monthly updates in Smart Chess. ChessPub fans everywhere will soon be able to enjoy these high-quality opening updates in their iPhones, iTouch, iPads, Google Android, Motorola Droid X and other smart phones or devices using touch-screen - anywhere and anytime.

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@Smyslov_Fan,

I am not sure if I can call you by your real name here.

Anyway, we might get IM Watson soon through ChessPub. We are nearing reaching an agreement with Tony.

Why don't you write for us?

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Reply #23 - 08/03/10 at 22:57:23
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Andy! You got Andy Rea to help out! Fantastic! Any other Colorado connections there?
  
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Reply #22 - 08/03/10 at 17:30:49
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@Sagwa,

We intend to release a Puzzle Pack every week using TWIC weekly updates as source games. Every puzzle piece will be new to you every week.

Andy Rea (Author: Chess on the Ledge) and Kelly Atkins work exclusively on the Puzzle Packs alone.

We also have the license to Chess Cafe Puzzle 1, 2 and 3 by GM Karsten Muller.

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Reply #21 - 08/03/10 at 11:43:21
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I woULD be interested in the chess puzzles for iPad

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Reply #20 - 08/03/10 at 07:37:35
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@LeeRoth, it's not a dedicated iPad version as such, it's the iPhone version scaled up. But there's every possibility that there's an iPad version in the works, which will probably be a bit more impressive.

I did expect the program to be a bit stronger. On it's highest level, I'd mark it as rank patzer (see comic effort referenced above), but that's only on the basis of one game...so there is a possibility I just got it into a position which it couldn't get a handle on....but having read about the threat from Smartphones etc, I was expecting a bit more.

Functionality is very limited too. On th eplus side, it only costs a few dollars.

Perhaps check out Shredder; I haven't looked at it properly yet, but it looks a more promising effort.

Can't find that Glaurung app on the App Store; geographic restrictions perhaps?

I fully expect the offerings in a few months to be much better...it's pretty much all work in progress at the moment....
  

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Reply #19 - 07/31/10 at 14:26:03
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@DinkHeckler -- I didn't know you could use Fritz on an Ipad.  If you don't mind elaborating, what was underwhelming about it?


  
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Reply #18 - 07/30/10 at 16:57:56
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I have to clarify my earlier post regarding the Anti-Sicilians July update.

It turned out there was some misunderstanding (mostly mine) with regards to releasing the updates in Smart Chess. Tony gave me the ok to test out how that will work for us (porting the content in Smart Chess), but not necessarily to release the updates for sale via Smart Chess.

This is totally my fault. Essentially, there is no legal agreement as yet between ChessPub and Smart Chess. And not to waste our porting efforts, I have asked Tony to allow us to avail the July update as a free download to all Smart Chess users (subscribers or non-subscribers).

So there is no further porting of other updates until a legal agreement is in place. If you like the updates in Smart Chess, please mention it to Tony so he can make a guided decision.

I assume he will give us permission to provide this update as a free download, otherwise, subscribers and future consumers of the updates will never get to see how this works in Smart Chess.

Again, I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Reply #17 - 07/30/10 at 16:14:57
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Dink Heckler wrote on 07/30/10 at 11:41:50:
Not that this necessarily refutes cheating concerns, since you can run a VPN prog on your iPad, and hook into your quad-core monster at home....


Speaking of which, the new Glaurung 2.0 for the iPhone apparently has this exact feature. And regarding cheating, I guess the lesson to learn in all of this is that smartphones can make phony smarties (had to be said  Wink).
  
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Reply #16 - 07/30/10 at 11:41:50
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I'll defo give this a crack...can't wait to try it out.

Tried out Fritz on the iPad the other day, distinctly underwhelmed.

Played the highest setting '2350-Grandmaster'...mmmhhh.

Ended up in an opposite colour Bishop ending with the following structure (me White):

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...and a bunch of K-side pawns...the horizon effect at work, I guess...but it takes a special talent to attain such a comical position. Not that this necessarily refutes cheating concerns, since you can run a VPN prog on your iPad, and hook into your quad-core monster at home....
  

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Reply #15 - 07/29/10 at 23:10:25
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We just got done porting in Smart Chess the July Anti-Sicilian update by GM Shaw. We are confident that about 6 updates will be available by release time next week.

But please understand: Delay (even major software companies are not immune to) is a reality as well for us. However, it will be worth your wait.

With regards to the possibility of cheating, we think it will not get any worse. I am sure organizers will threaten heavier sanctions to stop people from even attempting to use similar devices for cheating.

If cheating occurs, it will involve the use of engines (for a specific board position) but not with the review of notes or lessons or opening lines via Smart Chess.

Most people will consume Smart Chess content in an iPad because of its bigger screen size, and the iPads are not easy to conceal unlike a Smartphone.

Smart Chess in an iPhone or iPad brings to chess players more upsides than downsides. Also, it will bring fatter monetary rewards to chess content providers (publishers and writers) than the current model. We are removing a big portion of the distribution cost (printing, shipping & handling, and warehousing) and passing on the savings to consumers - chess players.

We pay writers a more generous royalty arrangement. We want to incentivize writers to produce quality chess literature.

Wish us well. I appreciate any suggestions with regards to app features.

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Reply #14 - 07/28/10 at 15:52:26
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I think it would be wise to have a presence in the Smartphone world. Chess on the Smartphone is still very limited - even something simple like an easy way to read the monthly updates in an app or such would be nice.

  

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any reader, browser, editor... would be great, but beware of engines - they use all CPU, all memory, and suck power out in no time.
  
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Reply #12 - 07/28/10 at 12:00:30
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adh2050 wrote on 07/27/10 at 20:04:13:
Hi,

I miss reading interesting posts on this Forum. I got busy with something that I allowed my subscription to temporary lapsed. I will renew shortly.

What got me busy (for about 8 months) is this app we are releasing in a matter of week or two, primarily for the iPhone, iPad and iTouch platforms. We will release the app for the Android, other smartphones and touchscreen devices next year.

As with other chess apps, ours has a strong engine with adjustable playing strength to suit one's level of play. Version 2 will allow you to play against others similar to online play in ICC.

It will also allow you to play over games or specific game collections such as, Fisher-Spassky games, Kasparov vs. Karpov games and the like.

What differentiates our app from the rest is that you can read books (yes - real chess books!) in it. So far, we are working on releasing 48 titles (Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual, Dvoretsky's Analytical Manual, Tal-Botvinnik 1960, etc., in this app.

The app allows you to see all nested lines and even cited games in the book. Because of the touchscreen technology in these devices, the board is interactive.

We are working in getting Everyman Chess, New in Chess, Qualitychess (GM Aagaard) and other big publishing outfits including ChessPublishing.com and ChessVibes.com to license us their books or chess content for release in Smart Chess.

We also have GMs (including GM Roman Dzindzi), IMs, FMs, NMs and Experts writing new material for us.

Many of these books or titles will be sold (as an option) by chapters for $.99 a chapter or groups of chapters.

Imagine viewing ChessPublishing opening updates in an iPhone or iPad, anywhere and anytime. If you like the idea, please let Tony know. By the way, books in Smart Chess will read just like the actual book except that you get to see nested lines within nested lines interactively.

We will also release Puzzle Packs ($.99 a pack) almost every week using source games from the weekly TWIC updates. Our puzzles will be drawn from 2010 games and beyond.

If you are interested in writing (opening articles, short lessons or puzzles) for us, please send email to king@playsmartchess.com.

Best regards,
Andres


Sounds very interesting indeed. Would use such material a lot, if it was done properly.

But some advice - Having Roman Dzinzi on your books will count very much against your reputation, not for it. See also: 'Lilov'.

Best of luck with the endeavour.
  
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Reply #11 - 07/28/10 at 11:54:12
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As in numerous school classrooms, simply have a bucket where players leave their handhelds upon entering.

Signal jammers are cheap enough too - one uni I worked at (Kansai University, Osaka) had a jammer in every single toilet cubicle. To prevent students spending too long evacuating while writing to loved ones no doubt.

Actually quite annoying. Important part of the day, the i-dump.
  
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Reply #10 - 07/28/10 at 11:22:17
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Stigma wrote on 07/27/10 at 21:32:57:
If this becomes a reality (and particularly with opening books available), doesn't it increase opportunities for cheating a bit? Maybe in a few years even normal Opens will have to use metal detectors to make sure people don't take these things into the playing area and adjacent rooms.

Actually, this was one of the first thoughts that occurred to me. Maybe everyone will soon have to follow the Austrians and simply ban all telephones from the playing hall.
  
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If this becomes a reality (and particularly with opening books available), doesn't it increase opportunities for cheating a bit? Maybe in a few years even normal Opens will have to use metal detectors to make sure people don't take these things into the playing area and adjacent rooms.
  

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Reply #8 - 07/27/10 at 20:29:46
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If someone ported a chess database program to the Iphone/pad, I would definitely buy one.  Maybe I should try to port SCID myself.
  
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Hi,

I miss reading interesting posts on this Forum. I got busy with something that I allowed my subscription to temporary lapsed. I will renew shortly.

What got me busy (for about 8 months) is this app we are releasing in a matter of week or two, primarily for the iPhone, iPad and iTouch platforms. We will release the app for the Android, other smartphones and touchscreen devices next year.

As with other chess apps, ours has a strong engine with adjustable playing strength to suit one's level of play. Version 2 will allow you to play against others similar to online play in ICC.

It will also allow you to play over games or specific game collections such as, Fisher-Spassky games, Kasparov vs. Karpov games and the like.

What differentiates our app from the rest is that you can read books (yes - real chess books!) in it. So far, we are working on releasing 48 titles (Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual, Dvoretsky's Analytical Manual, Tal-Botvinnik 1960, etc., in this app.

The app allows you to see all nested lines and even cited games in the book. Because of the touchscreen technology in these devices, the board is interactive.

We are working in getting Everyman Chess, New in Chess, Qualitychess (GM Aagaard) and other big publishing outfits including ChessPublishing.com and ChessVibes.com to license us their books or chess content for release in Smart Chess.

We also have GMs (including GM Roman Dzindzi), IMs, FMs, NMs and Experts writing new material for us.

Many of these books or titles will be sold (as an option) by chapters for $.99 a chapter or groups of chapters.

Imagine viewing ChessPublishing opening updates in an iPhone or iPad, anywhere and anytime. If you like the idea, please let Tony know. By the way, books in Smart Chess will read just like the actual book except that you get to see nested lines within nested lines interactively.

We will also release Puzzle Packs ($.99 a pack) almost every week using source games from the weekly TWIC updates. Our puzzles will be drawn from 2010 games and beyond.

If you are interested in writing (opening articles, short lessons or puzzles) for us, please send email to king@playsmartchess.com.

Best regards,
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Reply #6 - 07/26/10 at 18:37:39
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I have the iPad and it isperfect on this site! Also playing chess on chess.com and red hot pawn.

Also I have found some good chess puzzle apps.

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Reply #5 - 07/26/10 at 17:37:37
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TonyRo wrote on 07/26/10 at 17:20:20:
I have only used the forum on my iPhone, but it's a pain, because it just doesn't scale well.

Presumably this is a problem with all Internet sites on an iPhone? Undecided
Anyway, the Forum wouldn't be involved, only the main site, and it would be somewhat different to the Internet version.
  
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I have only used the forum on my iPhone, but it's a pain, because it just doesn't scale well. It'd be great to have an iPhone version of the actual site and the forum here on my iPhone. Awesome idea!
  
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Reply #3 - 07/26/10 at 16:17:16
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 07/26/10 at 13:46:07:
and have access to chesspub via the internet.


So its possible to use Chess Publishing with an iPhone? Do the JavaScript games look OK?
  
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I use Shredder's tactics puzzles with my I-phone, and have access to chesspub via the internet.
  
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Reply #1 - 07/26/10 at 13:11:21
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I have a smartphone (droid), but no chess apps. But I'd like to get some apps. There's one guy who developed a tactics puzzle program for droid, so I'll probably pick that up soon.
  

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We're considering the possibility of branching out into the smartphone arena (iPhones, iPads, Google Android, etc.) and wondered whether there would be any worthwhile demand for ChessPublishing updates and/or eBooks? Undecided
  
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