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Reply #156 - 07/15/12 at 09:38:27
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I think it´s safe to say that nowadays it´s considered quite satisfactory for Black. Vigorito´s treatment makes quite a good impression to me.

Even Avrukh in his big work on 1.d4 seemingly struggled to find something in the main lines and suggested 8.Qd3 against which Vigorito gives several satisfactory answers.
  
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Reply #155 - 07/15/12 at 09:27:05
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I saw that this book analyze the Panno variation etc (a6 with Nc6 etc)as response to fianchetto variation.  I want to ask if it is a playable variation for black because some years ago I heard that it was not so good for black
  
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Reply #154 - 07/10/12 at 16:35:16
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Got it as a second free eBook with Triangle System buy 1 get 1 free offer!
  
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Reply #153 - 05/21/12 at 16:22:48
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The vol 2 is now out as eBook!
  
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Reply #152 - 04/20/12 at 22:18:45
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I also would like to hear from Smyslov_Fan about the Bayonet variation-games he played in correspondence chess.
  
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Reply #151 - 01/12/12 at 10:56:54
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/28/11 at 14:41:16:
I have heard for a couple years now that the Bayonet has been "solved" and is no longer much to worry about.

However, I have no clue what the equalising lines for Black are supposed to be. In the 2-3 correspondence games I've tried, all on the white side, I've managed to reach extraordinarily complex positions where I've preferred White's chances.

So, what is this solution to the Bayonet? Does Vigorito mention it?


Can you be more specific about that White variations?  Smiley
  
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Markovich wrote on 09/11/11 at 21:28:24:
I do, however,have a very specific observation about the coverage of the Makagonov with 7...Nh5 (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.h3 e5 7.d5 Nh5).  After
8.Nh2 Qe8 9.Be2 Nf4 10.Bf3 f5 11.g3 Nxh3 12.Bg2 fxe4 13.Be3, Vigorito says "as Markos points out, Black is okay after 13...Na6! 14.Nxe4 Bf5 15.f3 h5!."  This appears to be an untested recommendation; I have three games in my data base that reached 15.f3, none with 15...h5.  And given that it is untested, this would be a place that I would look hard to find something for White.  Obviously, White can redeploy his h2 knight to d2 with tempo (16.Nf1 Qd7 17.Nfd2), after which I wonder if Black is really all that O.K. with that funny-looking knight of his sitting there on h3. 


Inarkiev, in a recent yearbook survey, already considered the line that Markovich mentions, going further (if i remember well) 17...b6 18. Ke2 with the idea 19. Qf1. His assesment is white advantage. As there's not practical games yet we don't know if this works well. Macieja-Maze is critical and 14 ...b5!? (Kosyrev - Sutovsky, Moscow open 2008) is interesting as well, i believe black can improve Sutovsky's play.
So this subvariation remains quite unclear by the time being.
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Reply #149 - 01/11/12 at 21:24:02
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I read through it on the plane, comparing it to what I remembered of Gallagher's analysis and games I have looked over since then.  I did not have a board or engine, I was just closing my eyes occasionally to visualize the lines.  Not a good way to learn openings, but a good way to work on visualizing positions.

I was particularly impressed by his much more in depth coverage of reasonable White deviations at move 5-6, a place I have found Gallagher unhelpful.
  
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Reply #148 - 01/05/12 at 02:17:10
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"Casual perusal"?

I don't really understand that.
  
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Reply #147 - 01/04/12 at 22:35:00
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David:

I have yet to plumb the depths of these books, but they were very impressive to casual perusal over the holidays.  I thank you for the hard work, and the results are impressive and compare (to these eyes) favorably to other books on the market.  My only regret is that it includes the Panno rather than the Samisch Gambit (but this is a completely explicable, and explained in the book, choice).
  
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Reply #146 - 12/30/11 at 06:02:08
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I am waiting to buy both Vol 1 & 2 in eBook format. Since I am currently in India and prefer eBook format - just anxious when the vol 2 eBook format will be published? If it is in 1-2 months, I'll just buy vol 1 right now as it will take some time to go through the same.

Mr. Vigorito - any update on vol 2 ebook timing?
  
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Reply #145 - 09/28/11 at 14:41:16
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I have heard for a couple years now that the Bayonet has been "solved" and is no longer much to worry about.

However, I have no clue what the equalising lines for Black are supposed to be. In the 2-3 correspondence games I've tried, all on the white side, I've managed to reach extraordinarily complex positions where I've preferred White's chances.

So, what is this solution to the Bayonet? Does Vigorito mention it?
  
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Reply #144 - 09/28/11 at 13:45:46
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OldGrizzly wrote on 09/28/11 at 12:47:07:
I'd like to know whether in Bayonet and/or 9.Nd2 lines is covered the 9...Ne8 variation with later ...dxc5 after White played b5. This was played by Nakamura vs. Beliavsky and Gelfand.


I don't think there is anything on this. The recommendation against 9.Nd2 is ...a5 and the Bayonet is ...Nh5.
  
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Reply #143 - 09/28/11 at 12:47:07
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I'd like to know whether in Bayonet and/or 9.Nd2 lines is covered the 9...Ne8 variation with later ...dxc5 after White played b5. This was played by Nakamura vs. Beliavsky and Gelfand.
  
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Reply #142 - 09/12/11 at 09:45:20
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Markovich wrote on 09/11/11 at 21:28:24:
I think that this work is outstanding for its comprehensiveness, lucidity and honesty, and I think that it'll be very useful for many players.  It's quite admirable that Vigorito has taken the trouble to point out what's wrong with some of Black's likely alternatives to his recommendations, which ensures that these volumes will be useful for White's partisans as well as Black's.

I do, however,have a very specific observation about the coverage of the Makagonov with 7...Nh5 (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.h3 e5 7.d5 Nh5).  After
8.Nh2 Qe8 9.Be2 Nf4 10.Bf3 f5 11.g3 Nxh3 12.Bg2 fxe4 13.Be3, Vigorito says "as Markos points out, Black is okay after 13...Na6! 14.Nxe4 Bf5 15.f3 h5!."  This appears to be an untested recommendation; I have three games in my data base that reached 15.f3, none with 15...h5.  And given that it is untested, this would be a place that I would look hard to find something for White.  Obviously, White can redeploy his h2 knight to d2 with tempo (16.Nf1 Qd7 17.Nfd2), after which I wonder if Black is really all that O.K. with that funny-looking knight of his sitting there on h3. 

It's interesting that Vigorito devotes a half page or so to 13.Nxe4, but only this little note to 13.Be3.  Maybe this is one place where he wants to keep his secrets.  Or is Black's O.K.-ness after 15...h5 really that obvious?

P.S. after 13.Be3 Na6 14.Nxe4, Black has a possible improvement in 14...Nf4!? as played in Macieja - Maze, Aix-les-Bain, 2011.  Too late to make the edition, or judged not relevant?

P.P.S. It's worth noting that besides 7...Nh5, Vigorito covers both7...a5 or 7...Na6  in detail.


+1 regarding the initial praise. I have most relevant books published in later years on the KID and concerning comprehensiveness, usability and ratio between variations and explaining prose these 2 volumes come out on top. Other books are useful when the recommended variations does not fit in your own repertoire (I'm not all that enthusiastic about the Panno Saemish f ex) and as a comparison, but if I had to choose one reference work I'd pick this one.
As with all theory books, if you look deep enough in specific variations you'll find assesments which are wrong and recommendations that does not fit your style. A major strength to me is that you get a very good picture of current theory and thus have a good base to do your own research on. 
  
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Re: New Vigorito's book
Reply #141 - 09/11/11 at 21:28:24
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I think that this work is outstanding for its comprehensiveness, lucidity and honesty, and I think that it'll be very useful for many players.  It's quite admirable that Vigorito has taken the trouble to point out what's wrong with some of Black's likely alternatives to his recommendations, which ensures that these volumes will be useful for White's partisans as well as Black's.

I do, however,have a very specific observation about the coverage of the Makagonov with 7...Nh5 (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.h3 e5 7.d5 Nh5).  After
8.Nh2 Qe8 9.Be2 Nf4 10.Bf3 f5 11.g3 Nxh3 12.Bg2 fxe4 13.Be3, Vigorito says "as Markos points out, Black is okay after 13...Na6! 14.Nxe4 Bf5 15.f3 h5!."  This appears to be an untested recommendation; I have three games in my data base that reached 15.f3, none with 15...h5.  And given that it is untested, this would be a place that I would look hard to find something for White.  Obviously, White can redeploy his h2 knight to d2 with tempo (16.Nf1 Qd7 17.Nfd2), after which I wonder if Black is really all that O.K. with that funny-looking knight of his sitting there on h3. 

It's interesting that Vigorito devotes a half page or so to 13.Nxe4, but only this little note to 13.Be3.  Maybe this is one place where he wants to keep his secrets.  Or is Black's O.K.-ness after 15...h5 really that obvious?

P.S. after 13.Be3 Na6 14.Nxe4, Black has a possible improvement in 14...Nf4!? as played in Macieja - Maze, Aix-les-Bain, 2011.  Too late to make the edition, or judged not relevant?

P.P.S. It's worth noting that besides 7...Nh5, Vigorito covers both7...a5 or 7...Na6  in detail.
  

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Reply #140 - 09/11/11 at 19:27:38
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I read both volumes without any introductory material, so I suppose around 2000+ FIDE should be able to play the KID with those two volumes. I think that applies to most opening books; around 2000+ ELO should be able to start analysing heavy theory without introduction and be able to play the opening well.
  

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Reply #139 - 09/11/11 at 11:59:25
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Paddy wrote on 09/11/11 at 10:53:31:
LostTactic wrote on 07/02/11 at 13:38:41:
Can anyone tell me if just these 2 volumes would be enough to learn and play the KID well? Or is there any supplementary readings anyone would suggest? Thanks.


These are very good books indeed, but IMHO if you intend to play the KID over the board (rather than in correspondence chess) the best way to get a handle on the KID is to read and play through ALL of  GM Joe Gallagher's "Starting out: the King's Indian" and combine this with lots of focused practice.

A player needs to acquire a feel for an opening before getting too much into the detail.


Absolutely agree. Came here to write the same, but Paddy got there first. Fabulous book.

Next would be Gufeld's collection (most of his stuff is of course rubbish, but the KID book is useful for ideas and motivation), then Golubev's Understanding the King's Indian.
Then for hardcore theory, Vigorito 1 and 2.

One line you really need to know is the Fianchetto. Everyone is Avrukhing (on ICC anyhow), so needs must.

  
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Reply #138 - 09/11/11 at 10:53:31
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Can anyone tell me if just these 2 volumes would be enough to learn and play the KID well? Or is there any supplementary readings anyone would suggest? Thanks.


These are very good books indeed, but IMHO if you intend to play the KID over the board (rather than in correspondence chess) the best way to get a handle on the KID is to read and play through ALL of  GM Joe Gallagher's "Starting out: the King's Indian" and combine this with lots of focused practice.

A player needs to acquire a feel for an opening before getting too much into the detail.
  
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thibdb13 wrote on 09/10/11 at 12:16:15:
Bibs wrote on 09/09/11 at 12:34:23:
thibdb13 wrote on 09/09/11 at 11:53:14:
Just one question about these 2 books: would you recommend them to someone wanting to start playing the KID?


Depends what standard you are.

What do you mean by "standard"?


Presumably playing strength/rating.
  

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thibdb13 wrote on 09/09/11 at 11:53:14:
Just one question about these 2 books: would you recommend them to someone wanting to start playing the KID?


Depends what standard you are.

What do you mean by "standard"?
  

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Just one question about these 2 books: would you recommend them to someone wanting to start playing the KID?


Depends what standard you are.
  
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Just one question about these 2 books: would you recommend them to someone wanting to start playing the KID?
  

Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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dfan wrote on 08/07/11 at 02:18:23:
Glenn Snow wrote on 08/07/11 at 01:49:25:
I have the first volume but could someone post the Table of contents for the second.  I'm just curious as to the rest of the repertoire.

The preview on the Everyman site at http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Attacking_Chess%3A_The_King%27s_Indian%... includes the table of contents.


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Glenn Snow wrote on 08/07/11 at 01:49:25:
I have the first volume but could someone post the Table of contents for the second.  I'm just curious as to the rest of the repertoire.

The preview on the Everyman site at http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Attacking_Chess%3A_The_King%27s_Indian%... includes the table of contents.
  
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I have the first volume but could someone post the Table of contents for the second.  I'm just curious as to the rest of the repertoire.
  
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Daniel wrote on 07/08/11 at 18:11:43:
I just received the book.  It's excellent so far.  The only particular omission appears to be 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Bg5 which has been played a few times by Sokolov.


page 358-362. it's the very last line in the book.


Oh thanks.  Didn't notice it.
  
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Daniel wrote on 07/08/11 at 18:11:43:
I just received the book.  It's excellent so far.  The only particular omission appears to be 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Bg5 which has been played a few times by Sokolov.


page 358-362. it's the very last line in the book.
  
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I just received the book.  It's excellent so far.  The only particular omission appears to be 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Bg5 which has been played a few times by Sokolov.
  
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Where in the U. S. of A. can I get this? Not out yet on Amazon, nor on chess4less.


You could have ordered it from the UK when it was just released, no? Anyway, Chess4Less indeed does have it.

http://www.chess4less.com/cheap/1/003482.html
  

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Markovich wrote on 07/03/11 at 02:27:52:
Where in the U. S. of A. can I get this? Not out yet on Amazon, nor on chess4less.


It's available at the Book Depository: http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/ (english site, but free delivery around the world to certain countries (USA is one of them))

I always check there first for any books I need, generally cheaper than Amazon if they have it stocked.
  
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Where in the U. S. of A. can I get this? Not out yet on Amazon, nor on chess4less.
  

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Can anyone tell me if just these 2 volumes would be enough to learn and play the KID well? Or is there any supplementary readings anyone would suggest? Thanks.


I have the first volume and received the second volume literally a few hours ago. I find the two-volume work to be very good, and heavy on analysis and variations. I prefer detailed variations and analyses and it definitely teaches the King's Indian thoroughly. Definitely helpful for around my elo (~2250), and seems excellent for any level, at least I find so.
  

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If you need something about the various d-pawn specials and 1.c4/1.Nf3 than "Fighting the Anti-King's Indians" by Yelena Dembo is a good complementary work to Vigoritos excellent 2 volumes.
  
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Reply #122 - 07/02/11 at 14:28:18
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Vigorito's prose is clear, but he concentrates more on variations than general ideas. So if you are below master level, I would recommend supplementing it with a more general book about King's Indian themes, such as Gallagher's Starting Out: The King's Indian or Bellin & Ponzetto's Mastering the King's Indian. This approach worked well for me with his Semi-Slav book.

As far as the actual moves go, his repertoire seems pretty complete (though I am saying that having seen only the first volume).
  
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Reply #121 - 07/02/11 at 14:27:04
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Both splendid books. Very worthy indeed.

Need supplement?
Depends on your level/experience etc. But more study always better than less. Ideas, pattern recognition  etc.
  
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Can anyone tell me if just these 2 volumes would be enough to learn and play the KID well? Or is there any supplementary readings anyone would suggest? Thanks.
  
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Daniel wrote on 06/17/11 at 02:12:43:
The move order that always gets me is 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Bg5 Na6 7. Nf3 e5 8. d5 as I don't feel as comfortable going for the Qe8, Nfd7, f5, Ndc5 plan if I don't have a5 in.  It's probable best to just choose another plan but King's Indian players are a stubborn bunch.


it's covered. Smiley  felt the same way too (I was afraid of a3, b4), but sometimes Black gets in ...f5 in time to put pressure on e4, and sometimes a3, b4 just isn't so scary.
  
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The move order that always gets me is 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Bg5 Na6 7. Nf3 e5 8. d5 as I don't feel as comfortable going for the Qe8, Nfd7, f5, Ndc5 plan if I don't have a5 in.  It's probable best to just choose another plan but King's Indian players are a stubborn bunch.
  
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there is more than one line in the Makagonov because 7...Nh5 is the main "principled" line, while 7...a5 and 7...Na6 needed to be covered for transpositional reasons from other lines, like h3 before Nf3, etc.
When I write a repertoire book I write it the way I would build a repertoire. it's the only way I know how...
  
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Hopefully it means all are playable. Think because recommened in Bologan book a5 most reliable, and Nh5 is an more ambitious and riskier try for black. On forum here a while back, people were suggestings some dangerous attacking tries against Nh5.
  
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Why does one of them have to be preferred?  I mean, there is a history of there being several major moves there ...heaven forbid that an opening book these days not tell the reader what to play at every turn.

With respect, because it's supposed to be a repertoire book and must enlighten people who don't know enough, the way to follow. At least that's what I thought I had bought.
  
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Why does one of them have to be preferred?  I mean, there is a history of there being several major moves there ...heaven forbid that an opening book these days not tell the reader what to play at every turn.
  
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Any thoughts on the second book? Was impressed with the first one.

I've just recieved my copy and it seems to be a good book like the first. The only objection is sometimes fluffy recommends several lines without explaining why, the difference between them and which is the preferred (as in the Makogonov 6.h3 where he offers 7...a5, 7...Na6 and 7...Nh5).
  
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Any thoughts on the second book? Was impressed with the first one.
  
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only 6...e5. if 6...c5 White can steer into a Modern Benoni.
  
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The Makagonov is taken quite seriously, and more than one line for Black is given.


I'm guessing you eschew ...c5?
  
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I do give 6... c5 7.d5 h6 against the Averbakh. After 8.Bf4 e6 9.dxe6 Bxe6 10.Bxd6 Re8 I believe 11.Bxc5 is nothing at all for White, but of course Black has to know exactly what to do (so it's fair to call it a "Dangerous Weapon"). There has to be a reason 11.Nf3 was played 100x more often!

The Makagonov is taken quite seriously, and more than one line for Black is given. Subscribers will know that this system has been quite popular lately.
  
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I can't wait until the book is out. I bought the first vol. and I'll do the same with the second. Meanwhile, anybody knows which is the variation chosen aganist the Makagonov h3? I can't guess it from the pdf. Thanks
  
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I´m sure this will be as good as volume one.

Choosing the old 6... c5 7.d5 h6 against the Averbakh is interesting and I´m curious to see if you follow up with 8.Bf4 e6 since right now I´m under the impression Black is under some pressure after 9.dxe6 Bxe6 10.Bxd6 Re8 11.Bxc5 as analysed by Flear in "Dangerous Weapons: The King´s Indian".

I admit I haven´t taken a deep look into this and in practice prefered the move order 6... h6 7.Be3 c5 or played 6... Na6 instead.

Anyway the excerpt looks pretty good and I hope Everyman will be in time publishing your book.
  
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...Ne4 has been given in ECO on the sixth move, with ...0-0 and 0-0 in.


Ah, but this is different!
  
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...Ne4 has been given in ECO on the sixth move, with ...0-0 and 0-0 in.
  
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Recently I have taken to playing the King's Indian by transposition. For instance, after 1 Nf3 g6 2 d4 Nf6 3 c4 d6 4 g3 Bg7 5 Bg2 Ne4!?

Black got a nice position. I am told that the move 5...Ne4 is a theoretical novelty, first proposed in the SOS book series (Secrets of Opening Surprises). Is this the case?

I did not read that book, but found this move using my intuition. It looked interesting, centralizing the Knight, while preparing  an ...f5 pawn break, similar to the Dutch Defense.

Upon returning home, I located the only extant game with this move in the chesslive.de database. That game was R. Krant - Josh Waitzkin, New York Marshall Chess Club, 1992. It continued 6 Nbd2 Nxd2 7 Bxd2 with an even position, but Black won later.

My game continued 6 Nbd2 Nxd2 7 Qxd2 00 8 00 Nc6 9 h3 f5 10 d5 Ne5 11 Nxe5 Bxe5 12 f4 Bg7 13 Rb1 Bd7 14 b4 Rb8 15 Bb2 Bxb2 16 Rxb2 a6 17 Re1 e5! 18 dxe6 e.p. Bxe6, DRAW, IM Dean Ippolito - Zilbermints, Simultaneous Exhibition, Raritan, New Jersey, 9 April 2011.

This was Ippolito's attempt to break the world record by playing 105 people at the same time. Well, only 91 showed up. Later, more people came, making it 100 boards altogether. For reference, the world record is 136 boards. The Guinness Book people were in attendance, as were a number of masters. There was coverage from the local press and chess media.

I left to catch the hourly train back to Newark at 5:18 p.m. but many games were still ongoing. What I can tell you is that as of my departure, Ippolito had 27 wins, 10 draws and no losses. Those who drew or won received a year's free membership in the chess club that Ippolito runs in Branchburg and Flemington, New Jersey.


Pretty sure the record for most simul games is well over 500... so 105 wouldn't even be close.
  
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Recently I have taken to playing the King's Indian by transposition. For instance, after 1 Nf3 g6 2 d4 Nf6 3 c4 d6 4 g3 Bg7 5 Bg2 Ne4!?

Black got a nice position. I am told that the move 5...Ne4 is a theoretical novelty, first proposed in the SOS book series (Secrets of Opening Surprises). Is this the case?

I did not read that book, but found this move using my intuition. It looked interesting, centralizing the Knight, while preparing  an ...f5 pawn break, similar to the Dutch Defense.

Upon returning home, I located the only extant game with this move in the chesslive.de database. That game was R. Krant - Josh Waitzkin, New York Marshall Chess Club, 1992. It continued 6 Nbd2 Nxd2 7 Bxd2 with an even position, but Black won later.

My game continued 6 Nbd2 Nxd2 7 Qxd2 00 8 00 Nc6 9 h3 f5 10 d5 Ne5 11 Nxe5 Bxe5 12 f4 Bg7 13 Rb1 Bd7 14 b4 Rb8 15 Bb2 Bxb2 16 Rxb2 a6 17 Re1 e5! 18 dxe6 e.p. Bxe6, DRAW, IM Dean Ippolito - Zilbermints, Simultaneous Exhibition, Raritan, New Jersey, 9 April 2011.

This was Ippolito's attempt to break the world record by playing 105 people at the same time. Well, only 91 showed up. Later, more people came, making it 100 boards altogether. For reference, the world record is 136 boards. The Guinness Book people were in attendance, as were a number of masters. There was coverage from the local press and chess media.

I left to catch the hourly train back to Newark at 5:18 p.m. but many games were still ongoing. What I can tell you is that as of my departure, Ippolito had 27 wins, 10 draws and no losses. Those who drew or won received a year's free membership in the chess club that Ippolito runs in Branchburg and Flemington, New Jersey.
  
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This is good news. Do you think Everyman will have a table of contents page released soon?


maybe. if not, I may release it here. Smiley
  
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This is good news. Do you think Everyman will have a table of contents page released soon?
  

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Vol 2 is finally complete. it should be out in a couple of months. they delay was my fault - it was due to be finished the day my daughter was born, and I found that babies can take up some of one's time... Tongue
  
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Great! Thank you very much.

Is the work on Vol. 2 going well, too?
  
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fluffy wrote on 04/08/11 at 12:52:38:
a free update to ACKI1 is available at: http://www.everymanchess.com/updates/ackiv1up1.htm in both html and a PGN download.


Thanks fluffy.  19... Nf5! is a nice move in the Gligoric.
  
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Ametanoitos wrote on 01/08/11 at 18:32:18:
It is like Schrödinger's Cat, both a Anti-KID and a not an Anti-KID at the same time!  Cheesy

In my opinion the fianchetto-KID should be studied together with the English-KID, but this is just my personal opinion or the way i was taught the KID. Probably Bologan believes the same, that's why in his book on the KID we see the English-KID and not Anti-KID lines such as London or Torre. But i consider my question answered. Everyman doesn't want overlap with the material from Dembo's book which is logical.

I agree with you "the fianchetto-KID should be studied together with the English-KID". If you play Classical or Panno fianchetto you just follow Dembo or Bologan's recommendation. But what if you want to play the Yugoslav System of the fianchetto? A kind of Symmetrical English with a quick d5?
  
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I received it yesterday as well and browsed through a couple of chapters. It's very concrete; although the plans, benefits and drawbacks associated with each individual move are explained very clearly, there are no pages-long overview sections talking about the variations in more general terms. As someone considering taking up the KID "from scratch" this is a bit intimidating. Luckily I also have the Bellin & Ponzetto book which should be a nice complement to this wholly variation-based approach.
  
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I received Fluffy's book from Amazon yesterday and read section on the Classical (haven't read the Saemisch section and I don't play the Panno against it so I don't feel fit to judge it).  The theory is very current and I like that you presented multiple options in certain systems such as Fedorov's 11...h5 pet line against the Gligoric.
  
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Ametanoitos wrote on 01/08/11 at 18:32:18:
It is like Schrödinger's Cat, both a Anti-KID and a not an Anti-KID at the same time!  Cheesy

In my opinion the fianchetto-KID should be studied together with the English-KID, but this is just my personal opinion or the way i was taught the KID. Probably Bologan believes the same, that's why in his book on the KID we see the English-KID and not Anti-KID lines such as London or Torre. But i consider my question answered. Everyman doesn't want overlap with the material from Dembo's book which is logical.


I agree.

Aagaard said that Kotronias will probably cover many Anti-KID lines. So there is a hope for us. Smiley
  
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It is like Schrödinger's Cat, both a Anti-KID and a not an Anti-KID at the same time!  Cheesy

In my opinion the fianchetto-KID should be studied together with the English-KID, but this is just my personal opinion or the way i was taught the KID. Probably Bologan believes the same, that's why in his book on the KID we see the English-KID and not Anti-KID lines such as London or Torre. But i consider my question answered. Everyman doesn't want overlap with the material from Dembo's book which is logical.
  
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Ametanoitos wrote on 01/08/11 at 16:54:40:
I don't consider the English an Anti-KID. Smiley


I don't consider the English a KID. Smiley
  
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Anti-Indians is London, Torre etc English-Indian is another and quite important subject because the fianchetto recommendation "shows" what you should play against 1.c4+g3+Bg2+Nf3 etc. If you play a quick ...e5  for example,then you may get hit by d4! and you must have ...e5 lines in your rep against the fianchetto. If you play the Panno you can start with ...a6 or ...Nc6 (my preffered choice).

I don't consider the English an Anti-KID. It may be, but asking never has hurt anybody (i think!)  Smiley


Vigorito already said he recommends the Panno against the Fianchetto.
Dembo and also Bologan covers the rest.
  
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Anti-Indians is London, Torre etc English-Indian is another and quite important subject because the fianchetto recommendation "shows" what you should play against 1.c4+g3+Bg2+Nf3 etc. If you play a quick ...e5  for example,then you may get hit by d4! and you must have ...e5 lines in your rep against the fianchetto. If you play the Panno you can start with ...a6 or ...Nc6 (my preffered choice).

I don't consider the English an Anti-KID. It may be, but asking never has hurt anybody (i think!)  Smiley
  
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Please forgive me if this has been brought up again. Are you going to cover also English (1.c4/1.Nf3) lines or you are going to refer to Dembo's book for that?

fluffy wrote on 01/01/11 at 15:22:43:
Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 01/01/11 at 00:58:40:
Just curious, will Volume 2 cover anti-KIDs as well?


no - Everyman already has a good book by Yelena Dembo on the Anti-KID which fits the repertoire I present. I'd much rather dedicate valuble space to the real KID rather than copy her lines (which I like).


  
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Please forgive me if this has been brought up again. Are you going to cover also English (1.c4/1.Nf3) lines or you are going to refer to Dembo's book for that?
  
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Fluffy, I can't seem to find your book in the US anywhere yet, not even from specialty chess retailers.  Quite strange for Everyman.


I have just heard "The book has just arrived in the warehouse and will be released in the next few days."

so hopefully I (we) will have it soon. If I make it to the USATE I may bring a few copies.
  
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thanks - I do not have it yet myself!


Fluffy, I can't seem to find your book in the US anywhere yet, not even from specialty chess retailers.  Quite strange for Everyman.
  
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I bought this book at the London Chess Classic and what I have read so far has been great.  It does contain quite a lot of long theoretical lines, but they are balanced very nicely by explanations.  I'm not sure if rossia was serious with his 'toilet paper' complaint, but as others have already said, the quality of the paper and the binding is fine.  Looking forward to the second volume.
  
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That will be nice. I am looking forward to the second volume. I am reading the first volume right now, and it is very good.
  

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Just curious, will Volume 2 cover anti-KIDs as well?


no - Everyman already has a good book by Yelena Dembo on the Anti-KID which fits the repertoire I present. I'd much rather dedicate valuble space to the real KID rather than copy her lines (which I like).
  
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Congrats!  First one?


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Vol 2 will be out only after I finish it... I am a little behind, considering that the very date the book was due my daughter was born...


Congrats!  First one?
  

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Vol 2 will be out only after I finish it... I am a little behind, considering that the very date the book was due my daughter was born...
  
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Reply #73 - 12/31/10 at 08:57:57
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Any idea when Vol 2 is due.

BTW the paper issue - it might not be at Quality's level but it's fine.
  
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 12/30/10 at 23:11:45:
Thanks for responding about the Four Pawns. How about the Fianchetto?


The Panno! of course I had to take everything from Bologan and Avrukh into consideration...
  
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fluffy wrote on 12/26/10 at 23:49:55:
Four Pawns will be ...c5, not ...Na6.

I do not know about this move ...Rb8 in the Bayonet. The books are based on main lines (which are much less likely to be refuted), not odd little side weapons. There are a few little suggestions here for secondary weapons, but ...Rb8 does not happen to be one of them. that does not mean you cannot follow the developments yourself (or on chesspub) though!


Thanks for responding about the Four Pawns. How about the Fianchetto?
  

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Reply #70 - 12/30/10 at 09:44:41
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I also see no problem here. My book has a perfectly fine condition and I agree with Gramsci. It´s the (excellent) content that counts.
  
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A toilet paper???  Angry I repeat, a toilet paper? 

With respect, recycled paper is not toilet paper. A good policy to preserve the environment. I've paid for the information contained not for the envelope.
  
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Reply #68 - 12/29/10 at 09:37:51
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So I finaly recieved my copy of the book. While the content seems to be very good with lots of useful prose, the quality of paper and binding is terrible. A toilet paper???  Angry I repeat, a toilet paper?  Sad This is Everyman's policy, to be as cheap as possible.

Mr. Vigorito, you should relaese your books under Quality Chess flag  Cool
  
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Reply #67 - 12/27/10 at 14:54:22
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I notice that Panczyk and Ilczuk, in their book from last year, thought that White should get a slight advantage against 12...Rb8 by following Polak-Chytilek, Brno 2008.

  
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Reply #66 - 12/27/10 at 07:58:18
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@Tony:

Wasn't Semkov's line against ...Na6 busted here on chesspub? I think also that Watson in his MCO Vol2 had a nice suggestion for White against ...Na6

@fluffy:

I agree with you. I just wanted to know if you know the refutation of Nataf's ...Rb8 move. Usually you look at every detail that's why you are so trustfull as an author Smiley.

The idea of 12...Rb8 is to play ...h6 Ne6 Bxe6 dxe6 Qc8 and if Nd5 (the typical reaction to this sequence) just Qxe6 as now Nxc7 is not with tempo on the Ra8. Also the b7 pawn is protected. It is a nice way to avoid tons of theory after 12...c6 and, as i said, i don't know of a strong line for White yet! I had prepared the line 12...c6 13.Qb3 in the past for White and i was happy with it but i was stuck in this 12...Rb8!?
  
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@Markovich: which variation would you suggest for white to aim for an advantage after 6. ... Na6 ?
I have played it for some time now on the black side and always felt very comfortable.
I would also be surprised if white had a way to a theoretical advantage.


I would be willing to bet most people now refer to the Semkov book for an advantage here, which is quite good. I think that was the line (at least up until a point) mentioned previously in S.Williams - M.Hebden.
  
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Reply #64 - 12/26/10 at 23:49:55
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Four Pawns will be ...c5, not ...Na6.

I do not know about this move ...Rb8 in the Bayonet. The books are based on main lines (which are much less likely to be refuted), not odd little side weapons. There are a few little suggestions here for secondary weapons, but ...Rb8 does not happen to be one of them. that does not mean you cannot follow the developments yourself (or on chesspub) though!
  
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Reply #63 - 12/26/10 at 22:57:36
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@Markovich: which variation would you suggest for white to aim for an advantage after 6. ... Na6 ?
I have played it for some time now on the black side and always felt very comfortable.
I would also be surprised if white had a way to a theoretical advantage.
  
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Reply #62 - 12/26/10 at 17:36:42
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ANDREW BRETT wrote on 12/23/10 at 09:07:10:
I'd be surprised if na6 is the answer to the 4PA. Mark Hebden has struggled against Simon Williams in this.



Having played the White side of the 4PA for years, I feel sure of my opinion that the main line of the 4PA, 6...c5 7.d5 e6 8.Be2 exd5 9.cxd5 Re8, is Black's strongest, and also that it's fully adequate for Black.  The only drawback is the practical one that it requires learning a good deal of theory for a line that doesn't come up that often.  If White wants to try to demonstrate a theoretical advantage, he needs to look at 8.dxe6 instead of 8.Be2, an area where the pros and cons of things are still being disputed.

Other Black systems against the 4PA offer, in my view, at least slightly better chances to White.  I'm not saying that 6...Na6 loses by force or anything, just that it's not as good as 6...c5.

So I think that the 4PA is no theoretical challenge to the KID, but that it's a serious practical challenge nevertheless.  It appears that it's also a serious practical challenge to KID book authors (or maybe their editors), who don't seem to be willing to expend the space necessary to lay out the theory of the main line.
  

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Reply #61 - 12/26/10 at 17:00:18
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Hello my friends

I recently received Vigorito's recent books on the Marshall and the King's Indian and i have to say that i am pleased with both of them.

As for the KID book i have to say that i'd like some new ideas of the author to be analysed in greater depth. Also i would very much like to see another recommendation against the Bayonet! Also what is wrong with Nataf's 12...Rb8 in the variation  9.b4 Nh5 10.Re1 f5 11.Ng5 Nf6 12.Bf3? Vigorito says in page 106: "...12...c6...The only other sensible continuation is 12...fxe4...etc" . Isn't 12...Rb8 viable and sensible?
  
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Reply #60 - 12/23/10 at 09:07:10
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I'd be surprised if na6 is the answer to the 4PA. Mark Hebden has struggled against Simon Williams in this.

  
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@fluffy: Do you know what you will recommend against the Fianchetto Variation, Four Pawns, Averbakh, etc. in Volume 2?


I'm going to guess (just for gambling's sake) and say 6...Nc6 and 7...a6 unless he improves on existing Gallagher analysis, and 6...Na6!? against the 4PA.
  
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@fluffy: Do you know what you will recommend against the Fianchetto Variation, Four Pawns, Averbakh, etc. in Volume 2?
  

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Reply #57 - 12/17/10 at 17:29:13
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It's pretty good as a suggested repertoire on the KID (you may not like everything but the KID does offer a wide choice). Samisch 6 be3 nc6 is Fluffy's choice but it seems to me that this line is not so good for Black but he does have some new ideas.
You might need some illustrative games to get the feel for the KID as much of this book is variation orientated.
I'd say ELO 1900 upwards to 2300 is the target range.
  
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Reply #56 - 12/15/10 at 10:53:25
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Come on friends, please answer the following:

a) do you like book layout?
b) quality of the paper compared with Quality Chess books?
c) explanations and conclusions?
d) estimated stregth: Elo 2000-2300?
e) why is this book unique?

My copy comes for Cristmas so I want to hear your thoughts before I make my own impression.

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Reply #55 - 12/04/10 at 13:55:42
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Templare2 wrote on 12/04/10 at 13:37:51:
The Saemisch with Bg5 will be found in the next book?


no, it is in Volume I.
  
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The Saemisch with Bg5 will be found in the next book?
  

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Reply #53 - 12/02/10 at 19:02:15
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OK, let's go back to Vigorito now. If anyone has his book he can answer me this question. What is the level of analysis? I saw in the pdfs in the Everyman site that he stops to early the variations sometimes without a clear plan indicated and comments like "with unclear play" etc. Does he do the same in other parts of the book?


Sometimes he does but I got the impression that although it was still unclear he was generally satisfied with Black's position.  In an opening like the King's Indian I think that's usually a satisfactory result.  I haven't seriously looked at the book's analysis but the browsing I have done gives me a favorable impression.  If he extended the analysis much further the book's size would have been unmanageable.
  
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Will there be coverage of anti-KI lines in either volume?


No, because Everyman already has Dembo's "Beating the Anti-King's Indians" and it meshes well with ACKI 1 & 2.
  
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Will there be coverage of anti-KI lines in either volume?
  
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In this video Kotronias "explains" why he has never reached 2700. He says: "that's my style! I always blunder!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Kx30flCwI

OK, let's go back to Vigorito now. If anyone has his book he can answer me this question. What is the level of analysis? I saw in the pdfs in the Everyman site that he stops to early the variations sometimes without a clear plan indicated and comments like "with unclear play" etc. Does he do the same in other parts of the book?
  
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Raffie wrote on 11/22/10 at 08:33:45:
I was a little bit unclear in my post. I meant is it worth buying the Vigorito book for me while I have already Bologan ,Gufeld and beating the KID?
I ask this question because all the variations in this new book are covered in the above mentioned books.


At 2300 you should be able to tell if you're happy with Bologan and older books or not. The Vigorito and Kotronias books will most surely look at other lines than Bologan. It's up to you to choose who to trust. I'm quite sure that both Vigorito and Kotronias are as thorough as Bologan.
  

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I was a little bit unclear in my post. I meant is it worth buying the Vigorito book for me while I have already Bologan ,Gufeld and beating the KID?
I ask this question because all the variations in this new book are covered in the above mentioned books.
  
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Once it comes out, I'm sure it will be fantastic. Not only is Kotronias an expert on the KID, he's also a fantastic writer and analyst.
  
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I'm a 2300 player and I play the kings indian all my life with ups and downs. I based my reportoire on several old books and in recent years by 'the art of the kings indian' of Gufeld and the Bologan book.
I am planning to buy the book of Kotronias, does anyone recommend this book?
  
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TN wrote on 11/17/10 at 14:32:23:
gramsci wrote on 11/17/10 at 14:22:10:
I've already got the 1st vol. Are there means of knowing with some deatil the contents of the 2nd vol.? I had though of giving up KID for the Semi-Slav or Modenr Benoni but Vigorito's book have recovered my faith on it. I want to work on KID lines again and I'd like to know what are the repertoire recommendations of the 2nd volume while I wait eager it will be out for buying. Thanks and excuse my poor english. I do my best.


What is your opinion of the first volume? What readership is it aimed at? How detailed is the theory? Is there an appropriate balance between prose and variations? And is it worth buying for someone with a ChessPublishing subscription and several books on the King's Indian?

I've liked Vigorito's other books very much, so I have high hopes for this tome as well.

If you liked "Play the Semi-Slav" buy this one. I think it's in the same line. I don't know if it's worth for GM but it's enough for me (2100). I've bought all the KID books there are in the market and my first impression is this is one of the best. It provides more verval explanations than Bologan's book and I'm seriously thinking give up c5 gambit in the Samisch and play the Panno.
  
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I've already got the 1st vol. Are there means of knowing with some deatil the contents of the 2nd vol.? I had though of giving up KID for the Semi-Slav or Modenr Benoni but Vigorito's book have recovered my faith on it. I want to work on KID lines again and I'd like to know what are the repertoire recommendations of the 2nd volume while I wait eager it will be out for buying. Thanks and excuse my poor english. I do my best.


What is your opinion of the first volume? What readership is it aimed at? How detailed is the theory? Is there an appropriate balance between prose and variations? And is it worth buying for someone with a ChessPublishing subscription and several books on the King's Indian?

I've liked Vigorito's other books very much, so I have high hopes for this tome as well.
  

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I've already got the 1st vol. Are there means of knowing with some deatil the contents of the 2nd vol.? I had though of giving up KID for the Semi-Slav or Modenr Benoni but Vigorito's book have recovered my faith on it. I want to work on KID lines again and I'd like to know what are the repertoire recommendations of the 2nd volume while I wait eager it will be out for buying. Thanks and excuse my poor english. I do my best.
  
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I just ordered the book from London Chess Centre. Is this Attacking Chess series of Everyman similar to Quality Chess's Grandmaster Repertoire series?
  

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Do you know what will Vigorito recomend against the Four Pawns Attack: 6...c5 or 6...Na6?
  
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I've just ordered the 1st vol. Do you know when it is suppoused to be released volume 2?


May, next year. http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Attacking_Chess%3A_The_King%27s_Indian%...
  

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Reply #38 - 11/04/10 at 09:09:54
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The book is out!!!

Did anybody buy it?

What are the first impressions regarding content, layout, quality of paper and size?
  
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Anyone knows if lines where White delays Nge2 are covered? because from the header of the chapter it seems to be all coming from 7.Nge2


it's all in Chapter 20 Panno: Other Lines
  
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Well yes, I believe that after 7. Qd2 a6 8. 0-0-0 the pawn sac 8...b5 is quite respected.  In John Watson's book on the Panno (from some time ago), he devoted a page to White's other eighth-move possibilities (including 8. h4, which led to a striking win for White in a game Trois-Kaplan, and 8. Rb1, which led to a striking win for Black in Lputian-Kasparov).
  
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I believe there's more to it than that, e.g. on 6. Be3 Nc6 7. Qd2, 7...e5 is surely dubious after 8. d5 Nd4 9. Nge2.


Well okay you're right; it's a little more complicated than I made it out. But after 7.Qd2 a6, how should White proceed if he wants to delay developing the King's Knight?  After 8.Bd3 Black has 8...e5 9.d5 Nd4 10.Nge2 and now either 10...Nh5 or 10...Nd7 are probably both fine.  The only real option for White I see is 8.0-0-0, but now Black can play 8...b5! without having to move the Rook to b8 first.

Okay maybe this should be covered in a page or two, but I don't see any real problems for Black here compared to the main lines.
  
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I know the publishing date is in november, but does anyone know what the exact date is of this book?
  
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I believe there's more to it than that, e.g. on 6. Be3 Nc6 7. Qd2, 7...e5 is surely dubious after 8. d5 Nd4 9. Nge2.
  
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Anyone knows if lines where White delays Nge2 are covered? because from the header of the chapter it seems to be all coming from 7.Nge2


If Black plays ...Nc6 in the Saemisch and White doesn't respond with Nge2, then just play ...e5, stick your knight on d4, and be happy with your beautiful position!
  
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Anyone knows if lines where White delays Nge2 are covered? because from the header of the chapter it seems to be all coming from 7.Nge2
  
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Regarding that excerpt chapter -- I had been curious as to whether the book would have anything to say about 9...e5.  I think that some of the published analysis/evaluations on it have just been wrong (in the direction of unjustly maligning 9...e5).
  
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Reply #29 - 10/19/10 at 15:55:10
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the book is now listed under "coming soon" and has a sample available: contents, introduction, and an extract (which is an entire chapter!):

http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Attacking_Chess%3A_The_King%27s_Indian%...
  
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OK I'll go for it, I do get free worldwide delivery after all!

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Reply #24 - 10/18/10 at 21:03:41
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I'm fairly certain he's going with the panno vs. the fianchetto.
  
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Reply #23 - 10/18/10 at 19:50:50
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Do you know what does Vigorito recomend against the Fianchetto KID? And vs. the Averbakh? And vs. 5.h3 / 6.h3?
  
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Reply #22 - 10/13/10 at 19:09:33
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Perhaps you could propose to the your publisher that he launches for the ardent followers a HARDBACK edition, just like Quality Chess does.


Yes, this is a good idea because Everyman is selling hardback editions in the Starting Out series in german language but not in english and I do not know why, but maybe this is a tradition in Germany. I would like for example to buy again in hardback Starting out King´s Indian, a classic!
  

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Reply #21 - 10/13/10 at 15:00:08
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I'm very thrilled and excited by your work Mr. Vigorito.

Truly, I'm a genuine follower of KID and I have many books on it, and the Bologan's one is signed by one of the best practitioners in the world GM Zdenko Kozul, who's my friend.

Perhaps you could propose to the your publisher that he launches for the ardent followers a HARDBACK edition, just like Quality Chess does.

Personally I think that your 2 volumes shall give me a feel of a blood just like the elite hunters like Fischer and Geller had!

Last but not the least I hope that you will have enough prose like Gallagher in his "Play the KID".

Spasiba for your upcoming books  Smiley
  
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368 rather. still a tiny bit over 272...
  
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Jee. Sus. Typical Vigorito - awesome.
  
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I have just received the proofs of the book to go over, so the book should be out on time (at least). it turns out that the Volume I is not going to be 272 pages - it is 386.
  
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Ludde wrote on 10/07/10 at 11:20:31:
From which publisher is this coming? Somewhere here I got the impression that it was Quality chess, but I can't find it under their publishing schedule.


Everyman, due 28/12 according to amazon.

You probably confused it with Kotronias 2 coming volumes on the KID on QC


Thanks, I did indeed - found it now under thread "GM Repertoire KID!" - even with the link. http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Attacking_Chess%3A_The_King%27s_Indian%....
these are the hazards of not browsing through the forums regularly.....
  
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Ludde wrote on 10/07/10 at 11:20:31:
From which publisher is this coming? Somewhere here I got the impression that it was Quality chess, but I can't find it under their publishing schedule.


Everyman, due 28/12 according to amazon.

You probably confused it with Kotronias 2 coming volumes on the KID on QC
  
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From which publisher is this coming? Somewhere here I got the impression that it was Quality chess, but I can't find it under their publishing schedule.
  
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David,

I hope that you'll stick to the Quality Chess Standard in writing your books...


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David,

I hope that you'll stick to the Quality Chess Standard in writing your books...
  
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fluffy wrote on 08/09/10 at 17:59:20:
there are theoretical problems in every line of the King's Indian, but since when has that stopped us? Smiley


Proceed, by all means!  My main point was that I would be interested to see what you have to say.  I'll be one of the first to buy your book.

Thanks, by the way, for the excellent works you've already produced.
  

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fluffy wrote on 08/09/10 at 17:59:20:
there are theoretical problems in every line of the King's Indian, but since when has that stopped us? Smiley


The man's got a point.
  
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I had the impression that there were some theoretical problems with the Panno, so I'll be interested to see what Vigorito has to say about it.
  

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Reply #8 - 08/09/10 at 17:06:59
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Being a KID fanatic, I am always interested in new books on it. I use ...c5 against the Saemisch mainly because of Joe Gallagher's excellent book, "Play the King's Indian" - which I carry with me just about all the time! - but I do notice that the late GM Gufeld in his book, "Art of the King's Indian", used the Panno with some good results. I would be interested to try it on occasion, especially if I feel I do not have enough energy to keep the pressure up while a pawn down. The KID is certainly not for the faint-hearted!!  Smiley
  
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Reply #7 - 08/09/10 at 12:31:44
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Panno is the only line against Samisch. If you need something else there are plenty of books on 6...c5, which is of course a good move too.

Early h3 lines will be in Volume 2, except for the pure Petrosian line with 9.h3 which is in Volume 1.
  
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fluffy wrote on 07/31/10 at 15:19:16:
Volume 1 will cover the Classical (main lines with 7...Nc6, main lines of the Gligoric and Petrosian, and multiple options in the Exchange) and the Samisch Panno 6...Nc6. Perhaps 6...c5 is 'best', but that's been covered everywhere and not everyone likes to play a pawn down endgame right out of the opening, sound or not. Besides, the Panno is a lot of fun and has not received much coverage over the years.

The second volume will cover the Fianchetto, Four Pawns, Averbakh, etc.


Thanks for that information. I'll be interested to see what improvement you have in mind for Black against the 9.Rc1 variation which was considered slightly better for White the last time I checked.

Also, is the 6.h3 variation covered in Volume 1 or 2?
  

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fluffy wrote on 07/31/10 at 15:19:16:
Volume 1 will cover the Classical (main lines with 7...Nc6, main lines of the Gligoric and Petrosian, and multiple options in the Exchange) and the Samisch Panno 6...Nc6. Perhaps 6...c5 is 'best', but that's been covered everywhere and not everyone likes to play a pawn down endgame right out of the opening, sound or not. Besides, the Panno is a lot of fun and has not received much coverage over the years.

The second volume will cover the Fianchetto, Four Pawns, Averbakh, etc.

Just a quick question, is the Panno the only line covered avaginst the Saemisch?
  
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fluffy wrote on 07/31/10 at 15:19:16:
Perhaps 6...c5 is 'best', but that's been covered everywhere and not everyone likes to play a pawn down endgame right out of the opening, sound or not. Besides, the Panno is a lot of fun and has not received much coverage over the years.


I give a thumbs-up to that.
  
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Volume 1 will cover the Classical (main lines with 7...Nc6, main lines of the Gligoric and Petrosian, and multiple options in the Exchange) and the Samisch Panno 6...Nc6. Perhaps 6...c5 is 'best', but that's been covered everywhere and not everyone likes to play a pawn down endgame right out of the opening, sound or not. Besides, the Panno is a lot of fun and has not received much coverage over the years.

The second volume will cover the Fianchetto, Four Pawns, Averbakh, etc.
  
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Indeed, I would be interested to know whether you recommend the Nc6 mainlines in the classical, or expand upon your excellent lectures on the Na6 variation.
  
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Mr. Vigorito, can you give us please as much information about your upcoming book as you can?
  
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07/28/10 at 18:08:41
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Hello KID worshipers  Grin Grin Grin

Well we'll be gifted with 2 volumes book very very soon:

"Attacking Chess: The King's Indian, Volume 1 by David Vigorito

The King's Indian remains a hugely popular opening at all levels of chess - unsurprising given the attacking opportunities it offers. In many of the ultra-sharp main lines, both sides can fight for the initiative. White frequently wins the queenside battle but this often turns out to be a Pyrrhic victory as Black wins the war by checkmating on the kingside! Black is hunting the enemy king and this gives him a psychological edge in practical play.

Here David Vigorito presents an aggressive repertoire for Black based on the main lines. Vigorito is renowned for his attention to detail and creativity, and his repertoire is full of innovative ideas. What's more, his lucid explanations of the key plans and tactics will benefit all King's Indian players. Volume 1 deals with the Main Line (Classical) and Sämisch variations.

Attacking Chess is a brand new series of opening repertoire books. It focuses on traditional attacking openings, as well as creative and forceful ways to play openings that are not always associated with attacking chess. It provides ambitious repertoires designed for players of all levels.

    * A King's Indian repertoire for Black
    * Packed with new ideas and analysis
    * Ideal for club and tournament players
    *  Published: December 2010 EU, December 2010 US
    * ISBN: 9781857446456
    * Format: Paperback
    * 272 pages"


  
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