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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #23 - 04/05/22 at 12:27:20
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Ivanchuk is offering a 4 hour video, with PGN, on the fantasy variation at Modern-Chess.com.

  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #22 - 02/22/11 at 23:23:41
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That was an inspiring defensive effort by Ivanchuk. 

Against 3...e6, I often transposed into a French Advance variation as White.
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #21 - 10/24/10 at 23:33:47
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I prefer 3..e5 after 3.f3 and yet this move receives little coverage. I showed it to Keith Arkell at Uxbridge and he promised to try it.
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #20 - 10/04/10 at 04:08:41
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What a great collection of Fantasy Variation resources.  Thanks especially to Michel Barbaut for the book list.  I did a webliography a while back that might interest readers of this thread:
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2010/03/caro-kann-defense-fantasy-variation.ht...
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #19 - 09/28/10 at 23:46:15
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FirebrandX wrote on 09/28/10 at 12:30:11:
I prefer to adopt IM Shankland's approach with dxe4 and e5.


This is Schandorff's recommendation in Grandmaster Repertoire 7, and Houska's in Play the Caro-Kann (I think? Don't have it with me.).
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #18 - 09/28/10 at 20:14:56
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Lou_Cyber wrote on 09/28/10 at 15:55:30:
Chucky sacked a queen early in the opening and won on the 34th move.

Great game indeed, but essentially Jobava was the one who sacked - he gave two pieces and a rook for Ivanchuk's Queen.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #17 - 09/28/10 at 17:40:41
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Lou_Cyber wrote on 09/28/10 at 15:55:30:
Don´t miss out todays Fantasy game Ivanchuk vs. Jobava from the chess olympics. Chucky sacked a queen early in the opening and won on the 34th move.

http://ugra-chess.com/liveboard?gameid=1001070011&tmnt=1
The game is absolutely amazing. Steinitz would've certainly applauded after move 15 with all pieces at the first row. The official website already mentions that Ivanchuk is fantastic and I think this will soon be picked up by other websites.
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #16 - 09/28/10 at 15:55:30
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Don´t miss out todays Fantasy game Ivanchuk vs. Jobava from the chess olympics. Chucky sacked a queen early in the opening and won on the 34th move.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #15 - 09/28/10 at 12:30:11
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I prefer to adopt IM Shankland's approach with dxe4 and e5. The tension in the center is truly exciting to play, and quite risky for white to handle. Just look at Shankland's win over Robson in the final playoff for the US junior champion title. Nothing short of flawless preparation by Shankland in that game, and I've been a fan of that line ever since. It's worked quite well for me in blitz, even scalping a few masters on playchess.
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #14 - 08/28/10 at 15:24:09
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Michel Barbaut wrote on 08/28/10 at 09:44:44:
...The chief drawback that I founf very annoying is that 3.f3 threatens nothing  Cry


Could agree to that, but...

In Gambeteer I Nigel Davies thinks: "The Caro-Kann is known as one of Black’s most solid defences to 1 e4 .... Generally speaking it leads to a rather dry technical struggle in which White will find it difficult to generate creative attacking ideas.

The move 3 f3 represents a serious challenge to Black’s strategy, in that it attempts to maintain a duo of pawns on e4 and d4. White argues that this apparently extravagant move is possible because of the passive nature of 1...c6 which did not contribute anything to Black’s development. "

If he really thinks that or if it is a promotion of the book I don't know but for me it is a fun suprise-weapon (forcing me to play actively) and it seams that many CK players are not that well updated on the variation. Wink and often underestimate it.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #13 - 08/28/10 at 09:44:44
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Ok, here are all I've  found on the so-called fantasy variation of the Caro-Kann :

- Big Book of Busts (Watson/Schiller) 1995
- Modern Chess Opening (Kalininchenko) 1996
- Nunn's Chess Openings (Nunn, Burgess, ...) 1998
- 101 Attacking Ideas in Chess (Gallagher) 2000
- Encyclopedia of Chess Openings, Tome B 2002
- Gambit Chess Openings (Schiller) 2002
- Semi-Open Games (Schneider) 2003
- Secrets of Openings Surprises, vol.3 (New in Chess) 2005
- Gambiteer I (Davies) 2007
- Modern Chess Opening, 15th edition (De Firmian) 2008
- Tartakover variation (Alterman) ICC

And, of course, all (?) the books on the CK.
The chief drawback that I founf very annoying is that 3.f3 threatens nothing  Cry
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #12 - 08/28/10 at 05:23:41
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I ran into it the last tournament I played in, in the under 1800 section. My opening prep before the tournament was negligible and I handled it very badly, but somehow managed to pull a draw out of it (also turns out my opponent was unofficially 1885). I think my opponent might have been able to finish me off early if he'd played it better. I'll post the game later. Maybe you will all get a laugh out of how I reacted to it as black.

Definitely going to study this sucker now.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #11 - 08/21/10 at 15:56:44
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Speciellt intressant var Nepomniachtchi,Ian (2656) - Jobava,Baadur (2695).

Actually ChessBup database has 16 games as well and for completeness Kaissiber Caro-Kann 3. f3 no 29/80.

I have got a lot of interesting study material -appreciate it very much!

Currently working on a project to document opning and Yearbook no in a spreadsheeet. A lot of cut and paste.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #10 - 08/21/10 at 13:37:31
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Förresten, om du söker på sajten efter "fantasy" så finns det ännu mer matnyttigt där, tex:

http://www.chessbase.com/cbm/cbm135e/cbm135-02/nepomniachtchi_jobava.htm

http://www.chessbase.com/cbm/cbm135e/cbm135-02/analysis_cueva.htm
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #9 - 08/20/10 at 17:23:58
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That was nice, and 13 games from Iceland 2010 as well!
I already knew that almost everyone on Iceland is writing fiction and poetry (and very good) so they have a lot of fantasy - apparently they play it as well.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #8 - 08/20/10 at 12:45:08
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #7 - 08/20/10 at 10:36:59
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Thanks!
It's a pitty that CBM doesn't maintain a master index of openings addressed in the "magazine".
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #6 - 08/20/10 at 01:30:25
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Göran wrote on 08/19/10 at 15:21:41:
BPaulsen wrote on 08/19/10 at 00:00:55:
3...e6 keeps it well within C-K solidity. The Fantasy is only exciting if black desires it to be.

Erenburg's CBM survey on it was high quality.


You don't happen to know the exact no of CBM?

Other sources to the Caro-Kann/Fantasy would be much appreciated. I only have "Gambiteer I" and Kaissiber.

Agree that the Fantasy variation is fun to play for an old and reviving 1.Nf3 player. Started to play 1.e4 and every gambit there is (hard to find a good one in Caro-Kann though)!! Have never had so fun playing chess as I have now.


CBM 133.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #5 - 08/19/10 at 22:29:24
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Tack för hjälpen TalJechin!
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #4 - 08/19/10 at 18:21:42
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Göran wrote on 08/19/10 at 15:21:41:
[quote author=7E6C5D49504F59523C0 link=1282158333/1#1 date=1282176055]

Other sources to the Caro-Kann/Fantasy would be much appreciated. I only have "Gambiteer I" and Kaissiber.


Minev gjorde ett häfte om varianten nån gång på 90-talet och det finns även en gammal "Trends" av Gallagher om 3.f3, plus att han tar upp den i ett eget kapitel i Starting Out the CK. Och i en SOS-böckerna rekommenderar Rogers (om jag minns rätt) 3...e5 som svar.
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #3 - 08/19/10 at 15:21:41
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BPaulsen wrote on 08/19/10 at 00:00:55:
3...e6 keeps it well within C-K solidity. The Fantasy is only exciting if black desires it to be.

Erenburg's CBM survey on it was high quality.


You don't happen to know the exact no of CBM?

Other sources to the Caro-Kann/Fantasy would be much appreciated. I only have "Gambiteer I" and Kaissiber.

Agree that the Fantasy variation is fun to play for an old and reviving 1.Nf3 player. Started to play 1.e4 and every gambit there is (hard to find a good one in Caro-Kann though)!! Have never had so fun playing chess as I have now.
  

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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #2 - 08/19/10 at 08:42:00
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3...Qb6 looks like anoying answer
  
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Re: Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
Reply #1 - 08/19/10 at 00:00:55
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3...e6 keeps it well within C-K solidity. The Fantasy is only exciting if black desires it to be.

Erenburg's CBM survey on it was high quality.
  

2288 USCF, 2186 FIDE.

FIDE based on just 27 games.
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Fantasy variation against the Caro Kann!!
08/18/10 at 19:05:33
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Surely the Fantasy Variation (1.e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3.f3!) has to be the most exciting way to meet the Caro Kann. Can't understand why more players don't play it. Shocked Shocked
  
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