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Reply #88 - 03/08/11 at 09:39:23
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I think this is a great idea! Can't wait to see the result!
  
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Reply #87 - 02/10/11 at 12:28:02
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I am working on the Sveshnikov based Repertoire.
  

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Reply #85 - 01/10/11 at 18:45:16
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This is really good idea to use.Get a old repertoire and cut and copy in repertoire or just change some lines and paragraph and make your own repertoire.And no one know about it,if you do it properly.Thanks
  
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Reply #84 - 12/19/10 at 15:57:53
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GM Kosten should decide what is the better option for ChessPubs Subscribers and ChessPubs Forum Writers.

In my humble opinion, if the repertoires are going to be part of ChessPublishing and ChessPub Forum should have a Separate Forum, where the compilers have Moderator/Administratos Roles, in order to make a better job.  Wink
  

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Reply #83 - 12/19/10 at 15:44:43
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I think it's probably time then to divide some of the "general chess" section out and create a "Repertoires" section.

  
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Reply #82 - 12/19/10 at 14:19:27
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Wouldn't it be possible to have a public access as well if references in the repertoire is pointing to the game as such?
Then Subscribers have access to the commented ChessPub game and the non-subscriber must get the game from his own reference database - prerhaps too complicated?
  

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Reply #81 - 12/19/10 at 13:50:19
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TN wrote on 12/19/10 at 04:18:56:
I originally underestimated the sheer volume of work entailed in creating a complete repertoire for Black.

Yes, it is enormous. I certainly think that doing one opening at a time and see how it looks is the way to go. Smiley
  
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Reply #80 - 12/19/10 at 13:48:44
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Fausto Alava-Moreno wrote on 12/15/10 at 22:30:26:
I suppose that ChessPubs is interested in maintaining the Repertoire ebooks.

Yes, that is certainly my intention.

TN wrote on 12/15/10 at 22:36:00:
Currently I have some references to games from the ChessPublishing archive, since I'm not sure whether these repertoires will be only available for subscribers or not. 

My thought was to use the ChessPub annotated games, and even copy and paste text from the playable eBooks/PDFs, to make new playable eBooks, but in that case the repertoires would only be for subscribers, of course. If you want the repertoires to be available to everyone on the Forum then that won't be possible.
  
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Reply #79 - 12/19/10 at 11:55:06
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Thank you for your feedback TN.

I used to play 2...d5 vs the Alapin, however in the last times, I am thinking in change to 2...d6 for a less known theory.

I still use the 2...Nc6 move order, because the annoying 6.Nxc6 was marvelous for white in the lates 1980s, according with my old analysis.

KID as a second weapon is fine.

I used to play Slav & Semislav in my personal repertoire ( Grin)

TN wrote on 12/19/10 at 11:13:14:
Against the Alapin I strongly recommend you choose either 2...Nf6 or 2...d5. 2...Nf6 is probably the cleanest equaliser but 2...d5 usually leads to more complex positions.

2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 is usually called the 'Anti-Sveshnikov' since most players who play this way meet 3...Nf6 with 4.Bb5 and other moves such as 3...g6 with 4.d4.

I'd recommend the 2...Nc6 move order because of the annoying option of 6.Nc6 in the 2...e6 move order.

King's Indian.

I'd suggest 1.Nf3 c5 and 1.c4 c5, but that may overlap with my intended repertoire.

Against the sidelines I would recommend playing a similar answer to what you recommend against 1.Nf3/1.c4 since transpositions can occur.

  

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Reply #78 - 12/19/10 at 11:13:14
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Fausto Alava-Moreno wrote on 12/19/10 at 08:19:59:
Following LeeRoth suggestion, I am thinking in afford a less ambitious approach to the Active Black Repertorie.

Repertorie I: Play the Sveshnikov vs 1.e4

Second Line: Kalashnikov

Anti-Sicilians to be fixed

1.e4 c5 2.c3 (Alapin)
1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 (Closed Sicilian)

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 (Rossolimo)
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 (Name?)

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.c3 (Deferred Alapin)

Other Anti-Sveshnikov to be covered?

I must look for the way GMs play the Sveshnikov in the XXI Century.

Questions:

Do you Prefer 1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nf3 e5 or 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 and arrived to the same position one movement later?


Repertorie II: Play the Grunfeld vs 1.d4

Question: Second Weapon: KID or Active Slav/SemiSlav?

Repertoire III: Play something related with I or II vs 1.c4, 1.Nf3, 1.f4, 1.g3 and soon

1.Nf3 Nf6 to look for a Grunfeld-ian Structure.
1.Nf3 c5 to look for a Sicilian after 2.e4
1.c4 Nf6 to look for a Grunfeld-ian Structure.
1.c4 c6 to look for a Slav Structure. Be careful with 2.e4 going for a Caro.

1.f4, 1.b3, 1.g3, and so on  are not fixed yet.  Wink

As everything, any feed-back is welcome and appreciated.


Against the Alapin I strongly recommend you choose either 2...Nf6 or 2...d5. 2...Nf6 is probably the cleanest equaliser but 2...d5 usually leads to more complex positions.

2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 is usually called the 'Anti-Sveshnikov' since most players who play this way meet 3...Nf6 with 4.Bb5 and other moves such as 3...g6 with 4.d4.

I'd recommend the 2...Nc6 move order because of the annoying option of 6.Nc6 in the 2...e6 move order.

King's Indian.

I'd suggest 1.Nf3 c5 and 1.c4 c5, but that may overlap with my intended repertoire.

Against the sidelines I would recommend playing a similar answer to what you recommend against 1.Nf3/1.c4 since transpositions can occur.
  

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Reply #77 - 12/19/10 at 08:19:59
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Following LeeRoth suggestion, I am thinking in afford a less ambitious approach to the Active Black Repertorie.

Repertorie I: Play the Sveshnikov vs 1.e4

Second Line: Kalashnikov

Anti-Sicilians to be fixed

1.e4 c5 2.c3 (Alapin)
1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 (Closed Sicilian)

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 (Rossolimo)
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 (Anti-Sveshnikov)

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.c3 (Deferred Alapin)

Other Anti-Sveshnikov to be covered?

I must look for the way GMs play the Sveshnikov in the XXI Century.

Questions:

Do you Prefer 1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nf3 e5 or 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 and arrived to the same position one movement later?


Repertorie II: Play the Grunfeld vs 1.d4

Question: Second Weapon: KID or Active Slav/SemiSlav?

Repertoire III: Play something related with I or II vs 1.c4, 1.Nf3, 1.f4, 1.g3 and soon

1.Nf3 Nf6 to look for a Grunfeld-ian Structure.
1.Nf3 c5 to look for a Sicilian after 2.e4
1.c4 Nf6 to look for a Grunfeld-ian Structure.
1.c4 c6 to look for a Slav Structure. Be careful with 2.e4 going for a Caro.

1.f4, 1.b3, 1.g3, and so on  are not fixed yet.  Wink

As everything, any feed-back is welcome and appreciated.
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Reply #76 - 12/19/10 at 08:03:47
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My original idea was to prepare a repertoire book in the spirit of the Winning with Series.

Using model games, to be used as a pattern recognition of Key Movements, Key Maneuvers,  Key Attacking and Defending Plans, Key Endgames if are relevants.

May be the great work of GM Bronstein on the KID could be used of inspiration: Bronstein on the King's Indian. David Bronstein and Ken Neat. First Published in 1999 by Everyman Publishers plc, formerly Cadogan Books plc.  Wink
  

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Reply #75 - 12/19/10 at 07:43:54
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My view is that it is more important to cover mainlines and some important side lines together with 1. Key positions, 2. Middle game plans, 3.Typical end games (if there is) in each variation and 4.Good game references that can serve as model games.

To build  “a complete repertoire” will take time and a lot of details will be changed along the line according to your own practice and experience. That is something that should be designed on an individual basis to make it your own repertoire.

Also I think it is better to start with one of the core variations e.g. Ruy Lopez Breyer and then expand.  With that approach you will get much better feedback from the Forum members. You don’t really know what is good or bad until you have something to complain on (in a positive way of course).
  

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I originally underestimated the sheer volume of work entailed in creating a complete repertoire for Black.

To complete the repertoire under my original plan would take up to six months of hard work, and this would probably be too slow for ChessPublishing.

Therefore I am thinking of changing the repertoire format as follows:

a) Instead of trying to cover all the theory, an annotated model game will be provided for the relevant variation. I haven't decided on how detailed the annotations will be or whether I will mostly annotate the opening phase or the middlegame/endgame.
b) Alternatives will be suggested for Black so that the repertoire is not refuted by one mega-novelty.
c) Sources will be recommended so that the purchaser can do their own repertoire work more easily.

This format should be sufficient for players below 2000 to play the repertoire, but those above 2000 will have to do their own work to successfully play the repertoire.

What is your opinion on these changes?
  

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Semi-Slav is no doubt in good theoretical shape as usual, but the chaos in some of the lines (Anti-Moscow, chiefly) requires the ability to handle unusual, highly tactical positions that can turn on a dime. Not exactly what comes to mind as solid for me.

Ragozin is more solid in comparison to the Semi-Slav in that there's less chaos, but it still isn't 4...Be7 in terms of solidity, either.
  

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Reply #72 - 12/16/10 at 22:49:26
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For the record, the repertoire choices aren't 100% confirmed yet. I've been working on White's alternatives to 1.e4 and 1.d4 first so that if I change my mind I don't lose any/much work.

In the position after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 I'm tossing up between 4...Bb4 (my original choice), 4...c6 (my current choice) and 4...Be7.
  

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Reply #71 - 12/16/10 at 22:11:14
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Antillian wrote on 12/16/10 at 12:42:49:
TN wrote on 12/14/10 at 10:45:38:
As an off-topic note, I've changed my mind regarding the most solid defence to 1.d4 - in my 'Super Solid Main Line Black Repertoire' I have replaced the Ragozin with the Semi-Slav. You'll be pleased to know that my repertoire can also be used via. a 1.d4 d5 move order against specific opponents, although you'll have to fix up the holes yourself to play 1.d4 d5 on a regular basis.


Does the semi-slav really qualify as super-solid?  A Nimzo/QGD repertoire might be more consistent with that label.


That's been my thought all along, personally.

Nimzo/QGD, or just plain QGD using the Alatortsev move order.
  

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TN wrote on 12/14/10 at 10:45:38:
As an off-topic note, I've changed my mind regarding the most solid defence to 1.d4 - in my 'Super Solid Main Line Black Repertoire' I have replaced the Ragozin with the Semi-Slav. You'll be pleased to know that my repertoire can also be used via. a 1.d4 d5 move order against specific opponents, although you'll have to fix up the holes yourself to play 1.d4 d5 on a regular basis.


Does the semi-slav really qualify as super-solid?  A Nimzo/QGD repertoire might be more consistent with that label.
  

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Currently I have some references to games from the ChessPublishing archive, since I'm not sure whether these repertoires will be only available for subscribers or not.

The impression I gained is that the repertoires will be updated, but I am not sure how regular these updates will be.
  

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Reply #68 - 12/15/10 at 22:30:26
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I suppose that ChessPubs is interested in maintaining the Repertoire ebooks.

And if subscribers want to have links to the commented games of ChessPubs, I think it's possible to do it in ChessBase format.

But GM Kosten want a premium product instead sell air.

Sure that tomorrow, he will answer that technical questions.

Göran wrote on 12/15/10 at 22:08:53:
An important issue is also how/if the repertoire will be maintained (updated) and in that case by whom.
Another interesting issue is if game references will be made to the ChessPublishing Archive database.

  

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Zatara wrote on 12/15/10 at 21:08:07:
how will these repertoires be sold??  WHo can have access to them ect??
Thanks,
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An important issue is also how/if the repertoire will be maintained (updated) and in that case by whom.
Another interesting issue is if game references will be made to the ChessPublishing Archive database.
  

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Ask to Tony. TN and myself are only the compilators.

Zatara wrote on 12/15/10 at 21:08:07:
how will these repertoires be sold??  WHo can have access to them ect??
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TN wrote on 12/15/10 at 14:45:49:
You could use the Sveshnikov as your main defence and the Four Knights as a second defence to 1.e4. Then a player using the repertoire could play both 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 and 2...e6.

I could modify my own given repertoire against 1.d4 so that it could be played via. 1.d4 Nf6 or 1.d4 d5, but that would be a bit...ambitious.  Grin


For sure, and at the end everybody is playing the Berlin Wall ala Kramnik. The Ford Knox defense and the Dragon. And of course, every opening than Carlssen used and previously Kasparov: Grunfeld, Tarrasch, Scotch. Who knows ...  Cry

And of course, the Ortodox QGD, Lasker, Tartakower and so on.  Grin

Why not the Petroff vs 1.d4?  Tongue
  

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You could use the Sveshnikov as your main defence and the Four Knights as a second defence to 1.e4. Then a player using the repertoire could play both 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 and 2...e6.

I could modify my own given repertoire against 1.d4 so that it could be played via. 1.d4 Nf6 or 1.d4 d5, but that would be a bit...ambitious.  Grin
  

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Following LeeRoth suggestion, I am thinking in afford a less ambitious approach to the Active Black Repertorie.

Repertorie I: Play the Sveshnikov vs 1.e4

Second Line: Kalashnikov

Some Anti-Sicilians to be selected.

Questions: Do you Prefer 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nf3 e5 or 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 and arrived to the same position one movement later?

Repertorie II: Play the Grunfeld vs 1.d4

Second Weapon: KID or Active Slav/SemiSlav?

Repertoire III: Play something related with I or II vs 1.c4, 1.Nf3, 1.f4, 1.g3 and soon

Not fixed yet.  Wink
  

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Reply #61 - 12/14/10 at 22:12:33
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Do you think, Master Kosten, that is better to focalize our efforts in one active repertoire vs 1.e4, to start with.


I second this suggestion.

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LeeRoth's suggestion is a good one, and anyway you should probably only tackle one opening at a time, and see how it looks, before going on to the next one.


Good idea.  Smiley

  

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Reply #60 - 12/14/10 at 15:26:28
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Do you think, Master Kosten, that is better to focalize our efforts in one active repertoire vs 1.e4, to start with.

And later on, prepare and active repertoire vs 1.d4, 1.c4, 1.Nf3.

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I leave all this to you, but I agree with those who suggest not being too ambitious at first!
LeeRoth's suggestion is a good one, and anyway you should probably only tackle one opening at a time, and see how it looks, before going on to the next one.

  

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TN wrote on 12/14/10 at 10:33:10:
Tony, could you reply via. PM how detailed you want these repertoires to be? And what rating range(s) would you recommend them to be aimed at?

I leave all this to you, but I agree with those who suggest not being too ambitious at first!
LeeRoth's suggestion is a good one, and anyway you should probably only tackle one opening at a time, and see how it looks, before going on to the next one.
  
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TN wrote on 12/14/10 at 10:33:10:
I have a complete repertoire organised for Black, divided into 334 sections. Now it's time to do the real work!  Grin

Tony, could you reply via. PM how detailed you want these repertoires to be? And what rating range(s) would you recommend them to be aimed at?


Certainly, it would be great if I also received these basic data by PM.
Target of the potential audience? Club Players, Masters.

Levels and so on? Correspondence Chess, Over the Board Chess, ...

How detailed should the repertoire should be? Main weapon and second. A couples of variants to be refuged if the main line should to be fixed ...

Tony could you kindly send me a PM with "this important information" prior to start the hard work of selection and compilation of the material?
  

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I have a complete repertoire organised for Black, divided into 334 sections. Now it's time to do the real work!  Grin

Tony, could you reply via. PM how detailed you want these repertoires to be? And what rating range(s) would you recommend them to be aimed at?
  

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The idea is to prepare a nice repertoire based in the recommended variants/openings.

And prepare a Repertoire Book that can be used for any subscriber if the lines selected fits on his/her style.

The repertorie "Active Black Side" has been my personal choice for the last 20 years. :-D

LeeRoth wrote on 12/13/10 at 21:07:27:
It's one thing to recommend a repertoire, another to write it all out.  If its not going to be superficial, it will be a lot of work for one person, even one as industrious as TN.

  

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Fausto Alava-Moreno wrote on 12/13/10 at 19:28:55:
I used to play the Tarrasch when Kasparov used to play it. Is it still sound?

Göran wrote on 12/13/10 at 09:34:23:
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Not many playing Tarrasch:
Just above 16000 OTB games in my MEGA2010
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If it's sound? Don't know but if Carlsen start playing it it will be  Cheesy

By the way, I really agree with LeeRoth. It's high risk to be too ambitious and it will grow out of control.
  

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It's one thing to recommend a repertoire, another to write it all out.  If its not going to be superficial, it will be a lot of work for one person, even one as industrious as TN.  Maybe the way to do it is to decide on a particular set of openings and then have forum members sign up to cover particular lines, with TN as the central coordinator.  So if its the French vs. 1.e4, someone takes the Winawer, someone else takes the Tarrasch, etc.   
  
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I used to play the Tarrasch when Kasparov used to play it. Is it still sound?

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The Benko is certainly active, although it may not be sound enough to include in the repertoire, even as a second defence.
  

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what about KID?
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QGD Tarrasch Defense is one suggestion.


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I am thinking on a "Active Black Repertoire"

Sveshnikov as First Weapon vs 1.e4
Kalashnikov as Second Weapon

Grunfeld as First Weapon vs 1.d4
Second Weapon to be fixed. Any suggestions?

Something to play vs 1.Nf3 and 1.c4 in a Grunfeld Style.
  

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Interesting timing. The Anand-Carlsen game should be interesting for Spanish fans. Anand apparently wasn't happy with his opening, then Carlsen made a significant mistake and Anand was able to bring home the point in a super-subtle endgame.
  
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TN wrote on 12/08/10 at 03:10:44:
1.e4: Closed Spanish (no changes)

Breyer?


Most likely. Carlsen and Mamedyarov have been doing well with it, which is as good a reason as any.
  

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TN wrote on 12/08/10 at 03:10:44:
1.e4: Closed Spanish (no changes)

Breyer?
  
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TN wrote on 12/08/10 at 03:10:44:
After much deliberation I have decided to change the 'Super-Solid Main line Repertoire' as follows:

1.e4: Closed Spanish (no changes)

1.d4: Nimzo/Ragozin/Closed Catalan

1.Nf3/1.c4: Symmetrical English



Looks good - pretty much what I'm playing at the moment! Wink
  
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Sorry but I can't right now as I am currently very busy.

I will try to post more detailed recommendations on the 14th or 15th of December.
  

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Could you kindly give us more information on concrete lines and variations?

TN wrote on 11/29/10 at 06:40:35:
Super-Solid Main Line Repertoire (for Black)


After much deliberation I have decided to change the 'Super-Solid Main line Repertoire' as follows:

1.e4: Closed Spanish (no changes)

1.d4: Nimzo/Ragozin/Closed Catalan

1.Nf3/1.c4: Symmetrical English


  

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TN wrote on 11/29/10 at 06:40:35:
Super-Solid Main Line Repertoire (for Black)

Summary: Closed Spanish, Main Line Slav, Anglo-Slav

More information coming soon.



After much deliberation I have decided to change the 'Super-Solid Main line Repertoire' as follows:

1.e4: Closed Spanish (no changes)

1.d4: Nimzo/Ragozin/Closed Catalan

1.Nf3/1.c4: Symmetrical English

  

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Fausto Alava-Moreno wrote on 11/30/10 at 22:06:47:
TN wrote on 11/30/10 at 21:48:08:
BabySnake wrote on 11/30/10 at 14:41:29:
A very interesting concept. I can see there will probably not be too much overlap with my current repertoire but will follow this nonetheless.

I notice that TN and Fausto seem not to have mentioned how to meet 1.Nf3 and 1.c4. I should that should be sketched from the beginning as well.


I mentioned in an earlier post that I recommended the Anglo-Slav, i.e. 1.Nf3 d5 followed by ...c6 and 1.c4 c6 followed by ...d5.



And what about the Anti-Slav lines 1.c4 c6 2.e4 or 2.g3?

You should prepare a couples of extra-lines dealing with posible Caro transpositions and 2.g3 lines.


That is exactly what I am doing.  Wink I decided to just give what opening I will recommend before posting detailed recommendations against each variation.

As I said earlier, I won't be able to work on the repertoire in the next couple of weeks but after that I will be able to commence writing.
  

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For instance:

1.c4 c6 2.g3 d5 3.Bg2 Nf6 4.Nf3 dxc4 in the Main Slav Spirit

A post dealing with this line can be found here:
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1290756086
  

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TN wrote on 11/30/10 at 21:48:08:
BabySnake wrote on 11/30/10 at 14:41:29:
A very interesting concept. I can see there will probably not be too much overlap with my current repertoire but will follow this nonetheless.

I notice that TN and Fausto seem not to have mentioned how to meet 1.Nf3 and 1.c4. I should that should be sketched from the beginning as well.


I mentioned in an earlier post that I recommended the Anglo-Slav, i.e. 1.Nf3 d5 followed by ...c6 and 1.c4 c6 followed by ...d5.



And what about the Anti-Slav lines 1.c4 c6 2.e4 or 2.g3?

You should prepare a couples of extra-lines dealing with posible Caro transpositions and 2.g3 lines.
  

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BabySnake wrote on 11/30/10 at 14:41:29:
A very interesting concept. I can see there will probably not be too much overlap with my current repertoire but will follow this nonetheless.

I notice that TN and Fausto seem not to have mentioned how to meet 1.Nf3 and 1.c4. I should that should be sketched from the beginning as well.


I mentioned in an earlier post that I recommended the Anglo-Slav, i.e. 1.Nf3 d5 followed by ...c6 and 1.c4 c6 followed by ...d5.

  

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Hi,

I just wanted to mention that (IMO) there is a rather huge demand and market for this sort of thing, especially among hobbyists at my rating and lower.  Book publishers come out with "repertoire books" based on the annotated games format all the time-- often quickly put together by the same few commissioned authors.  Well, ChessPublishing's annotated games are better than any other ones out there, so simply by selecting and arranging a coherent game collection, it would seem to me that ChessPublishing's repertoire collections would surpass those of other companies.

Personally, I subscribed only once to CP.com (to the 1.e4 section) and then decided that I'm not such a hardcore player that i need it.  (I also don't usually play huge theoretical mainlines.)  However, i would likely be willing to purchase one or more repertoire collections if they are offered as a standalone product (i.e., not on a subscription basis).  I am also curious what a fair price for this sort of thing would be.
  

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In my case Probably using a 1.Nf3 d5 aproach going for a Slav Setup or 1.Nf3 Nf6 going for a Grunfled Setup.

Or even 1.Nf3 c5 dreaming with 2.e4 with a Sicilian by transposition.

In case of 1.c4 c6 or 1.c4 Nf6 with the same idea.

BabySnake wrote on 11/30/10 at 14:41:29:
A very interesting concept. I can see there will probably not be too much overlap with my current repertoire but will follow this nonetheless.

I notice that TN and Fausto seem not to have mentioned how to meet 1.Nf3 and 1.c4. I should that should be sketched from the beginning as well.

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A very interesting concept. I can see there will probably not be too much overlap with my current repertoire but will follow this nonetheless.

I notice that TN and Fausto seem not to have mentioned how to meet 1.Nf3 and 1.c4. I should that should be sketched from the beginning as well.
  
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I am ready to start.

We can discuss wathever you want, in a private way.

I feel to maintain a repertoire as a long-term task.

And changes used to arrived in a natural way.
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A PM sounds good.

We can discuss the repertoires further from there.

I'm intending to start off with a file containing a basic summary of the lines in the repertoire. Then I can work from there.

Edit: I won't be able to start serious work on the repertoire until the middle of December. However, to make up for this I have made a start on the repertoire in the last few days.
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Could you clarify by a private message time-table of the repertoires, task, and soon?

I don't want to force a time table on anyone, if you are both ready to start I will PM you with my thoughts on how it should be done. Wink
I would say, though, that it might be a good idea not to be too ambitious at the beginning, and give yourselves too much work, these repertoires can be built up over time.
  
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TN, what do you mean by Main Line Slav?

I assume 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 derived lines. Is that correct?

Will semislav or a6 lines (chebanenko's) be treated in your Super Solid Black Repertoire?


That's correct, I am referring to the 4...dc4 variation.

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Tony, I would also like a private message with this information.
  

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It's fine for me Tony to accept your proposal of maintain some repertoires.

After 20 years of open with 1.e4 and avoid mainstream theory, I have changed to the 1.d4, c4, Nf3 complex.

As black I have been playing Sicilian Sveshnikov in correspondence chess since 1990, so I have some "unpublished ideas" in some lines out of fashion now.

And the same happens with Grunfelds, my first love when I was a young player.

In the meanwhile, I have played french, closed spanish, and Slav-SemiSlav complex, but as a second weapon, if some is broken in my pet lines. Playing that lines in an active way.

My chess-style fits with active play playing unbalanced positions as black, and clearly long-term small advantages as white.

My ending skills are good enough to be able to win microscopic advantages as white (ala Karpov) in correspondence chess. And to win in a tactical way, if my opponent miss something in his analysis.

Could you clarify by a private message time-table of the repertoires, task, and soon?

GMTonyKosten wrote on 11/28/10 at 12:24:55:
I think that one strong player should be in charge of each repertoire, that they should say what lines they intend to cover, and that anyone can suggest changes/improvements as time goes by.
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TN wrote on 11/29/10 at 06:40:35:
Super-Solid Main Line Repertoire (for Black)

Summary: Closed Spanish, Main Line Slav, Anglo-Slav

More information coming soon.



TN, what do you mean by Main Line Slav?

I assume 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 derived lines. Is that correct?

Will semislav or a6 lines (chebanenko's) be treated in your Super Solid Black Repertoire?
  

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As black I used to play:

Sveshnikov Sicilian vs e4 (as main weapon)
I can add a second Sicilian as second weapon

I can accept suggestions.


Kalashnikov Sicilian: 2 votes (TonyRo, Hacker)
  

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As black I used to play:

Sveshnikov Sicilian vs e4 (as main weapon)
I can add a second Sicilian as second weapon

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I can accept suggestions.


May I suggest Kalashnikov?
  

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As black I used to play:

Sveshnikov Sicilian vs e4 (as main weapon)
I can add a second Sicilian as second weapon

Grunfeld vs d4, c4, Nf3 (as main weapon)
Slavs vs d4, c4, Nf3 (as second weapon)

As white

I open with d4 (50%) c4 (30%) and Nf3 (20%) in order to play Main Lines and avoid some other ones.

vs Grunfeld (Russian System)
vs QG (Slavs or Semi-Slav and Bf4 vs ortodox)
vs King's Indian (Classical System)
vs Bogoindia and Queen's Indian

Others minor options to fix.

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I think that one strong player should be in charge of each repertoire, that they should say what lines they intend to cover, and that anyone can suggest changes/improvements as time goes by.
If TN and Fausto are happy to take on a repertoire each that is great. Smiley
  
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Thanks for the clarifications, but I'll wait for Tony to reply with the confirmed conditions. I won't start working on the repertoires until I am 100% clear on the aspects, conditions and details of the task.
  

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Reply #18 - 11/28/10 at 09:21:04
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Not sure, Mr. Kosten think about the Repertoires ebooks.

My idea is to maintain my own repertoire like a Pro.

And of course, I can offer it freely (or with some fees) if someone is interested in see my chess preparation "laboratory".

If there are some repertories prepared based on main-lines or side-lines I can change it for my own one.

But Mr. Kosten should decide if the idea of repertoires fit with chesspubs philosophy.

  

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As I understand it a repertoire is not a collection of different opening systems collected by chance. There should be something (whatever it is) connecting the different choices to make it a coherent set of systems. To accomplish that I would suggest one person is “in charge” (TN) and will have the ultimate responsibility when the basic criteria for the repertoire are agreed.  That shouldn’t however prohibit suggestions from other persons and discussions during the development. I also think that the person “in charge” very well could delegate different lines to other persons but still maintain the overall responsibility to ensure consistency in the repertoire(s).
  

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Let me clarify something.

How exactly will this 'Chesspub Repertoire' concept work? i.e. will everyone make their own contributions and the best will be turned into e-books, or is one person chosen to write the e-books and everyone else posts their own ideas to the author?

I am interested to know this because if my offer to write all the first repertoire books is accepted, I want to know whether this would make me the sole author of the repertoires, one of several co-authors, or an author of my e-books while others make e-book repertoires of their own.

I forgot to mention earlier, I currently write for a regular chess periodical and have had a contribution of mine published in the New In Chess Yearbook.  Smiley
  

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dom, F means Fou (Bishop, I supposse)

Maybe, your repertoire for the French fits better in the French Sub-Forum

Have you think in transposition from 1.d4 e6 in the hope of 2.e4 and you are playing the French!!!

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(cont)

This is one French Defence repertoire "for Black" (= selected moves/lines for Black against various moves for White).

Some of these lines are part of systems of famous players and others.

Subject of critics of course, because sometimes it is a matter of choice (and personal taste)   (I start reading Moskalenko book "Revolutionize your chess"  Smiley it affects greatly my posts)

I am interested by the coverage/comments of this repertoire...by J.Watson or others. The idea is to explain for Black how to play position at the end of the opening line).

Often comments have been done on positions/lines... on chesspub updates or in the forum ... but sometimes they were forgotten.

Specialists will recognize many.
  

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Repertoire like this ?  Smiley

(read attached file)
  

French_Defence_Repertoire.txt ( 31 KB | Downloads )

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TalJechin wrote on 11/23/10 at 22:47:24:
GMTonyKosten wrote on 11/23/10 at 21:42:12:
Sounds like a good idea to me, pick a repertoire and then cut and paste the relevant lines from the eBooks to make a new 'Repertoire eBook', updated monthly. Smiley
I'm willing to give it a try if we can decide on, say, a positional/tactical or whatever repertoire. Any suggestions?


Great!

I suggest the two repertoires should be: "Theoretically Critical" & "Easy to Play/Remember".


I think that is an excellent proposal. If then the Easy is choosen to allow a slowly stepwise upgrade from Easy to Theoretical it would really support the improving player.
  

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In my case, I am interested in Sveshnikov vs e4 and Grunfeld or Slavs vs d4, c4, Nf3.

From the White side I prefer to play c4, Nf3 or even d4 and play some principal lines vs Grunfeld, King's Indian, ...

I am rated 2300+ in correspondence chess and are my personal repertoires.
  

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My idea:

Something on Tactical, Estrategic, Gambler from the white side and the black side.

Or even, split in 1.e4 or 1.d4, c4 or Nf3

Some repertoire for main-lines (for theorics) and side-lines (for strategicals)

For example, If you open 1.e4 you should prepare something vs the Sicilian. If you are interested in play the open sicilian, you should prepare something vs several main-lines (najdorf, sveshnikov, paulsen, schev, dragon and so on) or you can go for any anti-sicilian (closed, alapin, moscow, and soon)
  

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This post has died a death! If there are no propositions for the repertoire subject (i.e. 'Aggressive with 1. e4', say) or for the content, then I propose accepting TN's offer! Smiley
  
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TN wrote on 11/24/10 at 13:13:27:
Who will write these repertoire ebooks? The authors of each section

I assumed the repertoires would each span several sections, rather than have one repertoire per section.
  
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Who will write these repertoire ebooks? The authors of each section, or Chesspub Forum members?

I would assume the former, but if it is the latter then I would be happy to volunteer in writing the first e-books. I am a FIDE Master rated in the 2300s.
  

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A quick poll to see if anyone is actually reading this section  Wink
  
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How about a "manly, brave" repertoire and a "yellow, scaredy-cat" one?! I can think of someone who would gladly compile the first one!


Don't get carried away, haven't we already had too much of this s...tuff in the forum?  Cool

ML & Easy, quick example in the french:

White ML 3.Nc3 and what's considered the best vs black's main options plus

White Easy 3.Nd2 or 3.e5

Black ML 3.Nc3 Bb4; 3.Nd2 Nf6 etc

Black Easy 3.Nc3 Nf6; 3.Nd2 Be7 / Nc6 etc

Or whatever the guy in charge of the section recommends...

In some sections a rep-suggestion would be quite helpful - e.g. in the D-pawn Specials & Anti-Sicilians it would be nice with an overview of what's most promising seen from both sides, as the updates so often zoom in on a particular line or two.
  
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 11/23/10 at 21:42:12:
Sounds like a good idea to me, pick a repertoire and then cut and paste the relevant lines from the eBooks to make a new 'Repertoire eBook', updated monthly. Smiley
I'm willing to give it a try if we can decide on, say, a positional/tactical or whatever repertoire. Any suggestions?


Even then there are several repertoire to choose from, even withing 1.d4 or 1.e4 for White, for example. It doesn't have to require that much updating either, for example if you suggest that the Bb5(+) Sicilians, the Exchange Lopez, the French Tarrasch etc. give White solid, easy to play repertoire, that verdict would remain fairly constant from one month to the next. Something like the Chess Stars "Quick Repertoire" sections, with links to appropriate games, would be sufficient, I think.

How about a "manly, brave" repertoire and a "yellow, scaredy-cat" one?! I can think of someone who would gladly compile the first one!  Wink
  

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GMTonyKosten wrote on 11/23/10 at 21:42:12:
Sounds like a good idea to me, pick a repertoire and then cut and paste the relevant lines from the eBooks to make a new 'Repertoire eBook', updated monthly. Smiley
I'm willing to give it a try if we can decide on, say, a positional/tactical or whatever repertoire. Any suggestions?


Great!

I suggest the two repertoires should be: "Theoretically Critical" & "Easy to Play/Remember".
  
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Sounds like a good idea to me, pick a repertoire and then cut and paste the relevant lines from the eBooks to make a new 'Repertoire eBook', updated monthly. Smiley
I'm willing to give it a try if we can decide on, say, a positional/tactical or whatever repertoire. Any suggestions?
  
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TalJechin wrote on 11/22/10 at 10:27:15:
Just a small suggestion that sounds like a good idea but might be too much work:

How about making pgn-bases with suggested repertoires for those looking to quickly get up to speed with a new opening or just refresh their memory? The games are already there so it would be mostly about selecting the most important games over the years...

I see two immediate gains at least, in a repertoire based view, it's easier to spot some of the lines that may have escaped attention over the years (without having to rely on disgruntled subscribers) and it may well increase the number of subscribers, since repertoires (and repertoire books) is one of the most common topics on the forum.

Besides, chesspub repertoire opening bases will be much easier to update than a book and quicker to absorb for the readers, since the moves are already "clicked in".


There is already a repertoire section on suggested repertoires by Martin and Davies on the site, but they are quite out of date, and tend to recommend sidelines that can be quickly learned and played.
  

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Just a small suggestion that sounds like a good idea but might be too much work:

How about making pgn-bases with suggested repertoires for those looking to quickly get up to speed with a new opening or just refresh their memory? The games are already there so it would be mostly about selecting the most important games over the years...

I see two immediate gains at least, in a repertoire based view, it's easier to spot some of the lines that may have escaped attention over the years (without having to rely on disgruntled subscribers) and it may well increase the number of subscribers, since repertoires (and repertoire books) is one of the most common topics on the forum.

Besides, chesspub repertoire opening bases will be much easier to update than a book and quicker to absorb for the readers, since the moves are already "clicked in".
  
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