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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #39 - 08/22/11 at 04:50:32
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Knightcut wrote on 08/21/11 at 14:20:35:
Paddy wrote on 08/21/11 at 10:20:29:
Why the heck don't you Dragon fanatics subscribe to Chess Publishing? Bok-Cheparainov was analysed by GM Gawain Jones in the latest Dragons update! Black was fine for most of this game and Jones makes many suggestions to improve on Black's play.


Hmmm.... sounds reasonable.

But what's the idea in running a free chat forum if people just refer to a pay site anyhow? l am so far no subscriber and thus untill further l have to live with the limited Knowledge l have by now, namely that White is up a pawn plus the exchange, the score is 2 - zip to White and RybKa favours White, for example: 18...Rb8 (instead of BoK's 18...Rc8) 19.g5 Nh5 20.Kd2 +/=. What's the price for subscribtion?



Well, first you didn't see the analysis of G. Jones to start. Second, you want to learn for free?. Third, You are lucky to see some of the comments in here. If I owned chesspublishing.com, you wouldn't get a chance to see anything.
Chess programs sometimes don't understand unbalanced positions. Finally, Rybka is no longer the strongest program in the world (maybe that's why others selected 18..Rc8 and not 18...Rb8). I believe that you have more than one reason to subscribe.
  
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #38 - 08/21/11 at 19:13:52
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Knightcut wrote on 08/21/11 at 14:20:35:
But what's the idea in running a free chat forum if people just refer to a pay site anyhow?

To allow subscribers to discuss - and contribute to - the analysis provided on the pay site. That means that you and I (I am no subscriber either) have to accept now and then that we are behind.
Another idea is to seduce people like you to subscribe by making you curious about all the analysis you are missing.
  

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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #37 - 08/21/11 at 14:20:35
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Paddy wrote on 08/21/11 at 10:20:29:
Why the heck don't you Dragon fanatics subscribe to Chess Publishing? Bok-Cheparainov was analysed by GM Gawain Jones in the latest Dragons update! Black was fine for most of this game and Jones makes many suggestions to improve on Black's play.


Hmmm.... sounds reasonable.

But what's the idea in running a free chat forum if people just refer to a pay site anyhow? l am so far no subscriber and thus untill further l have to live with the limited Knowledge l have by now, namely that White is up a pawn plus the exchange, the score is 2 - zip to White and RybKa favours White, for example: 18...Rb8 (instead of BoK's 18...Rc8) 19.g5 Nh5 20.Kd2 +/=. What's the price for subscribtion?

  
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #36 - 08/21/11 at 10:20:29
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Knightcut wrote on 08/21/11 at 08:03:38:
Swiss_Dragon wrote on 02/11/11 at 19:58:12:
keerik wrote on 02/11/11 at 16:13:48:
And what about straight 18.h4? It seems to be critical line.


On 18.h4 I had prepared a fresh idea for my game: 18...Rb8+ and then
A) 19.Ka1 Be8 20.h5 Nd7. For example 21.Rb1 Rc8 22.hxg6 fxg6 followed by Nb6 and/or Bf7. I think Black is quite okay here.
B) 19.Kc1 Ba4 20.h5 Nd7 21.hxg6 hxg6 22.Bh6 Bf6 with good chances for Black. It is important that the bishop is on a4 in this line and not on e8. If the bishop were on e8, Black would get killed by the spectacular 23.Nf5!!

I think 18...Rb8+ is a clear improvement over 18...h5, since I really don't like 18...h5 19.g5 for Black. After 18...Rb8 the h-file opens up, but it doesn't seem to bring White the wished result.

If 18.Ka1 Black can also play the same manouver (Be8, Nd7) starting with 18...Rc8.

Another idea is 18.Bc1!?, which was played by A. Greet against G. Jones (our dragon expert Jones playing the Black side, of course). I think I have found a way to equality here, too, starting with 18...Rb8+.

Hence in my view 18.g5 is the critical move.


18.Kc1! is another test featuring twice in Chesslive.de - white won both. Last game was Bok-Cheparinov in Biel, 21 July 2011,  1-0 (49).


Why the heck don't you Dragon fanatics subscribe to Chess Publishing? Bok-Cheparainov was analysed by GM Gawain Jones in the latest Dragons update! Black was fine for most of this game and Jones makes many suggestions to improve on Black's play.
  
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Re: B78: Burnett variation
Reply #35 - 08/21/11 at 08:58:13
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Keerik wrote about this line, and in the game Cheparinov did not play the recommended/analysed ...Ba4.
  

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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #34 - 08/21/11 at 08:03:38
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Swiss_Dragon wrote on 02/11/11 at 19:58:12:
keerik wrote on 02/11/11 at 16:13:48:
And what about straight 18.h4? It seems to be critical line.


On 18.h4 I had prepared a fresh idea for my game: 18...Rb8+ and then
A) 19.Ka1 Be8 20.h5 Nd7. For example 21.Rb1 Rc8 22.hxg6 fxg6 followed by Nb6 and/or Bf7. I think Black is quite okay here.
B) 19.Kc1 Ba4 20.h5 Nd7 21.hxg6 hxg6 22.Bh6 Bf6 with good chances for Black. It is important that the bishop is on a4 in this line and not on e8. If the bishop were on e8, Black would get killed by the spectacular 23.Nf5!!

I think 18...Rb8+ is a clear improvement over 18...h5, since I really don't like 18...h5 19.g5 for Black. After 18...Rb8 the h-file opens up, but it doesn't seem to bring White the wished result.

If 18.Ka1 Black can also play the same manouver (Be8, Nd7) starting with 18...Rc8.

Another idea is 18.Bc1!?, which was played by A. Greet against G. Jones (our dragon expert Jones playing the Black side, of course). I think I have found a way to equality here, too, starting with 18...Rb8+.

Hence in my view 18.g5 is the critical move.


18.Kc1! is another test featuring twice in Chesslive.de - white won both. Last game was Bok-Cheparinov in Biel, 21 July 2011,  1-0 (49).
  
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Re: B78: Burnett variation
Reply #33 - 07/21/11 at 17:25:04
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Oops, I meant 19.Kc1.

Moderator's note: it's corrected.
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #32 - 07/20/11 at 18:57:54
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Schroeder wrote on 07/20/11 at 13:29:42:
My second corr game with Swiss_Dragon's novelty 18.-Rb8+ also passed the test:

In a third game (still ongoing) White played the probably more testing move 19.Ka1.


Hi!

Nice to know that the 18...Rb8-idea works in practice as well. Your games look like dragon is fun!  Smiley

By the way, I guess you mean 18.Ka1 in the third game, don't you?
  
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #31 - 07/20/11 at 13:29:42
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My second corr game with Swiss_Dragon's novelty 18.-Rb8+ also passed the test:



In a third game (still ongoing) White played the probably more testing move 19.Kc1.
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #30 - 05/07/11 at 17:58:05
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White is not forced to play b3, while black is forced to reply b4 or end up a pawn down without compensation. White has a alternative in h4, dont remember why it not theoretical best move.
  
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #29 - 05/06/11 at 17:08:57
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I really hate having to play b3, sometimes it seems the position becomes almost symmetrical with his bishop in control of the long diagonal.  
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #28 - 04/29/11 at 12:36:12
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While this becomes more and more of topic,I do not study openings anymore,these day I study positional play, endgames and tactical excercises. Only opening theory I look at recently is Nimzo Indian from blacks point of view.

About Svartån, I used to study Computer Science in Västerås before graduating and got my current job.
  
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #27 - 04/28/11 at 14:57:39
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Write the book and move on to other openings, bragesjo. It will do you good.
  

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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #26 - 04/28/11 at 11:13:14
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I got a vision last night about a Dragon book at internet.

First it will have a theory section with full verbal annotations and then the theory chapter will be filled with instrucitve wins, draws and loses from my own praxis since I have meet most Dragon lines in my 2200+ dragon games long carrier. The focus on recommended lines will be on positional lines.

However can not start with this project untill early september, way to busy at work as well as busy on improving my chess with the goal of becomning club champion next season.

  
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Re: Burnett variation
Reply #25 - 04/16/11 at 12:30:54
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gewgaw wrote on 04/16/11 at 10:49:49:
bragesjo wrote on 04/16/11 at 09:05:15:
Very nice game


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The forum is still waiting for your book "My Life For The Dragon" - 666 pages of hardcoredragon  Cool


Well I might have som further plans in the future of making a html and javascript based theory book of dragon games but right now I am devoting my spare time towards studying the Nimzo Indian as well as endgame books and the recent book of Ulf Anderssons best games.
  
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