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Re: 1_Nf6 2Nc3 c5:3e4 Nc6 4Nf3 e6 5Be2|4f4+3g3 e6 4Bg2
Reply #4 - 01/25/11 at 11:46:59
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BPaulsen wrote on 01/25/11 at 09:21:51:
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I know literally nothing about line #2 so won't comment.

Played 4 times by GM Normunds MIEZIS according to the online database @ www.chesslive.de, the Closed Sicilian-like variation (with a strange c2-c4) is impossible to avoid with my move-order.
  

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Re: 1_Nf6 2Nc3 c5:3e4 Nc6 4Nf3 e6 5Be2|4f4+3g3 e6 4Bg2
Reply #3 - 01/25/11 at 09:21:51
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HoemberChess wrote on 01/24/11 at 17:36:52:
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As Black, I choose the English Hedgehog but there are 3 White deviations on the way which I can't avoid.
    1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 c5 3.e4 Nc6
  • #1:4.Nf3 e6 5.Be2 d5 etc //BTW, is 5..d5 the strongest answer to 5.Be2?. Mastering Chess Openings, Vol 3 by Watson contains a few thoughts about 5..d5
  • #2:4.f4 d6 etc
  • #3:3.g3 e6 4.Bg2 d5 etc //the book English Hedgehog, Vol 1 by Schipov gives 4..d5, but without many details
Please recommend books, articles, etc where I could read about them.
Thanks for the replies in advance.


Besides general resources (ie: ECO) there's not a whole lot to be found on some of those lines. For instance, line #3 you cite has never been a serious concern for black due to white not even being able to get into a comfortable Tarrasch set-up. Black should know how to handle the continuation after 6. Nf3 d4 7. Na4, more specifically how to handle the position very similar to a variation from the KID (1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 0-0 5. Nf3 d6 6. Be2 c5 7. 0-0 Nc6 8. d5 Na5). Alternatively, black could allow a standard Tarrasch, but that doesn't attempt to punish white's move order.

In line #1 5...d5 is supposed to equalize comfortably, but black should exercise some caution in the symmetrical positions that arise (white having the extra tempo and all in what are pretty open positions). I'm not aware of anything with a better reputation than 5...d5. If you're seeking winning chances as black this line could be undesirable, due to many different completely equal endgames.

I know literally nothing about line #2 so won't comment.
  

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Re: 1_Nf6 2Nc3 c5:3e4 Nc6 4Nf3 e6 5Be2|4f4+3g3 e6 4Bg2
Reply #2 - 01/25/11 at 09:15:29
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TN wrote on 01/24/11 at 20:17:36:
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I have found nothing about (#2) and (#3) there.
  

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Re: 1_Nf6 2Nc3 c5:3e4 Nc6 4Nf3 e6 5Be2|4f4+3g3 e6 4Bg2
Reply #1 - 01/24/11 at 20:17:36
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01/24/11 at 17:36:52
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Symmetrical English

As Black, I choose the English Hedgehog but there are 3 White deviations on the way which I can't avoid.
    1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 c5 3.e4 Nc6
  • #1:4.Nf3 e6 5.Be2 d5 etc //BTW, is 5..d5 the strongest answer to 5.Be2?. Mastering Chess Openings, Vol 3 by Watson contains a few thoughts about 5..d5
  • #2:4.f4 d6 etc
  • #3:3.g3 e6 4.Bg2 d5 etc //the book English Hedgehog, Vol 1 by Shipov gives 4..d5, but without many details
Please recommend books, articles, etc where I could read about them.
Thanks for the replies in advance.
« Last Edit: 01/25/11 at 16:24:32 by HoemberChess »  

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