on 10/04/12 at 03:27:21:
I think you don't understand the difference between an equal position and a drawn position.Your use of the word drawn is incorrect. I wonder if any GM would agree with your assessment that the position is a draw. I bet no. Strong players know the difference between equal and drawn. That's why they continue to play this line.
I can demonstrate, regardless of whichever line you choose in analysis, that black will draw.
I am using the word drawn
intentionally. This isn't a complex position where "equal chances" is what I want to say. Quote:
If the position is drawn you should be able to hold against any opposition, right? If you gave me a king and my opponent a rook pawn and wrong colored bishop I could draw anybody. If you give me a Philidor position, I will not lose. Can you say the same thing about the position after move 9 with only one pawn exchanged?
...A player's abilities have nothing to do with the objective appraisal of the position.
You've got this absurd idea that something is only drawn if an individual can prove it OTB. That's not how chess theory works. Quote:
Sure if you had access to a chess engine you could do better. In fact, You might never lose from that position. But the same could be said from any mainline opening on move 9.
No, the same could not be said of any main line opening on move 9.
We are discussing a very specific position
. One which you have declined to actually analyze
I'll give you a hint as to how this works: I would never call the position after 8.d5 a draw, but I am calling this one a draw. I will back it up in analysis if someone actually wants to contribute something. Quote:
I am beginning to understand why you don't like statistics:)
No, actually, you still don't get it. Statistics tell you nothing
about the position, they tell you about the performance of players
The difference between me and you is I'm here to discuss theory
on a site dedicated to opening theory
. I am asserting that this line can be analyzed out to a draw regardless of what white tries.
I welcome attempts to prove me wrong. It'd do a great service to opening theory. I'm not holding my breath.