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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10760 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 Reply #7 - 03/22/11 at 10:08:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	The Bc4/0-0 line is the only way to make sense after 6.h3 g6. This is not completely harmless.

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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 Reply #6 - 03/22/11 at 08:38:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	My opinion too, the Dragon works well for Black here, since h3 is not that useful in the Yugoslav Attack. But it could be useful for some less important systems vs. the Dragon, e.g. the Bc4/h3/O-O one.

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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 Reply #5 - 03/22/11 at 03:12:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 03/21/11 at 22:53:02: nobibla wrote on 03/20/11 at 23:08:30: 5.Nc3 a6 6.h3 I am looking for some theory in this line. Fisher used to play it. Is there any Yearbook about this line? Or even a book? Don't forget to look at the Keres Attack either. 5...e6 6.g4 a6 (or a later ...a6) 7.h3 also transposes. The problem lines are 5...a6 6.h3 e6 7.g4 d5 and 7.Be3 b5. Indeed, and the theoretically important games after 7...d5 are Smirin-Mista, Plovdiv 2008, and Kamsky-Karjakin, Sochi 2008. Alternatively, 6...g6 steers the game towards a Dragon where h3 isn't useful. Perhaps White has to accept the loss of a tempo with 7.Be3 Bg7 8.Qd2 0-0 9.0-0-0 b5 10.f3 Bb7 11.h4, but this doesn't look like a real try for an advantage, and Black can delay castling for some moves, as in Timman-Naiditsch, Dortmund 2002.

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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10760 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 Reply #4 - 03/21/11 at 22:53:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	nobibla wrote on 03/20/11 at 23:08:30: 5.Nc3 a6 6.h3 I am looking for some theory in this line. Fisher used to play it. Is there any Yearbook about this line? Or even a book? Don't forget to look at the Keres Attack either. 5...e6 6.g4 a6 (or a later ...a6) 7.h3 also transposes. The problem lines are 5...a6 6.h3 e6 7.g4 d5 and 7.Be3 b5.

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nobibla YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 23 Joined: 12/09/09	Re: Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 Reply #3 - 03/21/11 at 09:43:56	Post Tools	Print Post
	Thanks a lot. I will check it!


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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 Reply #2 - 03/21/11 at 08:59:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	TN is correct about the 6. g3 variation. You can also check the games of the English GM Howell, who uses it as White (e.g. recently played that vs. Carlsen). Fischer's 60 Memorable Games also have a nice coverage of some lines (esp. vs. ...e5 iirc) - see the Fischer-Najdorf game.

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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 Reply #1 - 03/21/11 at 01:38:06	Post Tools	Print Post
	nobibla wrote on 03/20/11 at 23:08:30: 5. Nc3 a6 6. h3 I am looking for some theory in this line. Fisher used to play it. Is there any Yearbook about this line? Or even a book? Have a look at Yearbooks 89 and 90. It also pays to study the 6.g3 variation when studying 6.h3 as White, since after 6.g3 e5 7.Nde2, White often plays Bg2, 0-0 and g4, therefore in the 6.h3 e5 variation White can save a tempo with an immediate g4.

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nobibla YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 23 Joined: 12/09/09	Line 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4: Nf6 03/20/11 at 23:08:30	Post Tools	Print Post
	5. Nc3 a6 6. h3 I am looking for some theory in this line. Fisher used to play it. Is there any Yearbook about this line? Or even a book?


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