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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #77 - 07/19/11 at 01:17:41
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Semkov, I agree with you that it was a strange review. This was in large measure because the reviewer was not fluent in English. His meaning was often obscured by his choice of words.

He seemed to believe that The Safest Grunfeld is a good book except it wasn't the book that he would have written. He gave back-handed reviews of Avrukh's Grandmaster Repertoire 1.d4 vols 1 and 2, and by proxy Avrukh's books on the Grunfeld, without having even read the latter series!

I agree. He clearly would have been more pleasantly disposed to The Safest Grunfeld if you had included him in the list of authors. Such a careless oversight on your part!
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #76 - 07/18/11 at 18:30:23
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Paddy wrote on 07/14/11 at 11:50:03:
There is a very interesting review of this book by a Gruenfeld player at

http://www.chessvibes.com/reviews/review-the-safest-grunfeld

Although the review is quite positive, some problematic areas are identified that we might want to discuss here, especially the lines given against

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Be3

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Nf3 c5 8.Rb1

and the controversial choice of the old line

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Bc4 c5 8.Ne2 0–0 9.Be3 Nc6 10.0–0 Qc7 11.Rc1 Rd8.


The above-mentioned review is very strange. I remained with the impression that the author Robert Kikkert (2285) was not actually reviewing the book, but instead used the chance to present at length his own tastes and understanding of the Grünfeld. He has not shown a single mistake in the 350 pages-book, but still he did not like the choice of two 2600+ grandmasters. As an editor, I also had some doubts, for example, about the position from Delchev-Rook. I was extremely insistent that Delchev rechecked his evaluations because another respectful Chess Stars author, Sakaev, claimed the opposite. However, Delchev was definitely sure that White had nothing in this line even though before the game he believed Sakaev. 
Naturally, when writing a repertoire book, there is no way to please everybody. Still, I'm a bit disappointed as a publisher that I missed to include Kikkert in the team of authors. He seems so confident in his Grünfeld expertise. So he might have contributed considerably to the book. In that case the authors' abbreviation would have looked even more impressive: D&A&K.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #75 - 07/18/11 at 17:33:10
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I must say, that after some recent disapointing books from Chess-Stars i was quite pesimistic about Grunfled but this is one of the best opening book by Chess-stars [and about Grunfeld at all which I ever read]. I think that is even better than Avrukh GM repertoire (because Avrukh is very often happy with long forced draw lines and i dont like these solutions).
Weaker chapters are about Anti-Grunfeld lines IMHO.
I can only recommend this book.

  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #74 - 07/14/11 at 11:50:03
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There is a very interesting review of this book by a Gruenfeld player at

http://www.chessvibes.com/reviews/review-the-safest-grunfeld

Although the review is quite positive, some problematic areas are identified that we might want to discuss here, especially the lines given against

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Be3

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Nf3 c5 8.Rb1

and the controversial choice of the old line

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Bc4 c5 8.Ne2 0–0 9.Be3 Nc6 10.0–0 Qc7 11.Rc1 Rd8.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #73 - 06/04/11 at 03:55:44
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Arcticmonkey wrote on 06/03/11 at 09:56:35:
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1) Why hasn't book depository got this book? I've been waiting for two weeks! Are there any other major book retailers that have free postage!?!?!


According to Booko (http://booko.com.au/books/isbn/9789548782814) only Amazon UK currently has it. However, Book Depository knows about it, and will send you an e-mail when they have it, if you ask them to. Booko tells you which sellers have free delivery (e.g. Fishpond, The Nile, AbeBooks, Better World Books), but some sellers are cheaper even after taking postage into account.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #72 - 06/03/11 at 10:13:54
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Arcticmonkey wrote on 06/03/11 at 09:56:35:
Just two random questions about this book.

1) Why hasn't book depository got this book? I've been waiting for two weeks! Are there any other major book retailers that have free postage!?!?!
2) What does Delchev think of the Grunfeld English? - I posted a similar question before btw but i thought more ppl would read it here.

For example; 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.Nf3 d5 and etc..!?
Thanks!


I've just given it a quick look, haven't arrived there yet. What I can say is that the last chapter covers 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4 and 4.cxd5; and 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 (and the Barry attack). This chapter contains only the Step By step part, no "main ideas" (probably because many totally different lines are covered) and no "Complete Games". However I have the impression there may be slightly more prose than in the average step by step chapters. As Delchev himself points out in the chapter intro it's just a guide on what to do as covering in depth all these lines would mean writing a few more books but I must say that it looks quite detailed. Hope I helped.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #71 - 06/03/11 at 09:56:35
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Just two random questions about this book.

1) Why hasn't book depository got this book? I've been waiting for two weeks! Are there any other major book retailers that have free postage!?!?!
2) What does Delchev think of the Grunfeld English? - I posted a similar question before btw but i thought more ppl would read it here.

For example; 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.Nf3 d5 and etc..!?
Thanks!
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #70 - 05/31/11 at 10:44:37
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@ ChevyBanginStyle

This is no surprise, I'm afraid -- the online sample contains a disturbing number of errors and imprecisions. The problems here are generally twofold: chess book publishers rarely understand what professional copy editing involves, and even if they do the economics rarely permit them to employ a professional editor with a specialism in chess. In over 25 years as one of those, I've worked on no more than a very small handful of chess titles.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #69 - 05/31/11 at 10:40:51
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Semkov wrote on 05/19/11 at 19:00:16:
I was really scared that the original title "The Grünfeld for Black" would cause confusion with Avrukh's title. Delchev's book is (supposedly) quite different from Avrukh's work and I wanted to distinguish it.  I'd like to hear more opnions on the structure in comparison to Quality's layout of the material. My own opinion is that most of the detailed analyses are either superflous /or irrelevant/ or wrong/ or anybody could switch on the engine for them. So it is much more important to focus on ideas and move orders. But I might be wrong. We actually produce both type of books.


I'll try to post my thoughts on this (preview, I am around 2200 fide, most friends say I'm stronger with the little flaw I basically have no black repertoire which slows me down: this book was exactly what I needed Smiley ). In my view today, when we all have databases and strong engines, good opening books can be divided in: 1) lots of new original analisis: stuff which would be difficult to discover/evaluate even with the engine (Avrukh?!); 2) lots of "words" with plans and typical stuff well explained followed by a theory section which must, for space reasons, be less detailed than in the first category, but the reader should get enough understanding by the first section to solve most problems (maybe in post mortem) (Delchev!). Personally I think that strong players (i.e. over 2350-2400) would benefit mostly from Avrukh-style books whereas lesser mortals would profit more from a Delchev-style book as it requires less memorization (and time) to be studied. I remember going through a Catalan line from GM1 and reading a comment like "and white has a dream position" and having no clue on why I had to party in that position!
I prefer the Delchev style format, and I actually confess that for some lines I have studied only the Main Ideas and some of the Complete Games and had good results nonetheless (e.g. 2,5/3 against the Benko or 3,5/5 with black against 6.f4 in the Najdorf)! The "evolution" of the first chapter from "Quick repertoire" to "main ideas" doesn't chop much theory while there are more typical ideas (although Kolev in the sharpest sicilian did a magnificent work in mixing theory and main ideas toghether!).
Of course this depends a lot on the author: Marin and Avrukh did totally different books in the same series, but I still find the Chess Stars approach at least more practical.
Even the choiche of the variations may be wiser: Avrukh (but also Marin at times) suggests getting into main lines, sharp lines!, against openings which as white a non professional may meet 1-2 times a year (the Leningrad Dutch for example) with the result that the suggested line leads you to a position where the overwhelming difference in experience with the black player who plays the opening all the time more than compensates the advantage you (should) have as white. I prefer to get an equal position where I know what to do rather than getting an advantage I have no idea on how to exploit.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #68 - 05/31/11 at 09:20:30
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Can anyone make out the note to 23.Qa5 on page 98? Kosyrev-Sakaev, Internet 5' 2004 is the game cited. A couple of ply seem to be missing, and I don't quite understand the combination at the end. There appears to be a typo or omission. Any help would be appreciated!

I like the book so far, but this note confused me when I was referencing the line.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #67 - 05/29/11 at 09:58:47
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MarinFan wrote on 05/28/11 at 10:10:47:
After 11...Be6, instead of 11...Bg4 12h3 Be6 of Gelfand v Grischuck game Gelfand's Rb1 idea doesn't look so effective because if 12b3 a4 13Rb1 pxp 14pxp then 14...Bf5 and if 15e4 Bg4


good point. the subtlety of provoking h3 was lost on me but no doubt it matters in some other variation 20 moves deep
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #66 - 05/28/11 at 10:10:47
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After 11...Be6, instead of 11...Bg4 12h3 Be6 of Gelfand v Grischuck game Gelfand's Rb1 idea doesn't look so effective because if 12b3 a4 13Rb1 pxp 14pxp then 14...Bf5 and if 15e4 Bg4
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #65 - 05/25/11 at 15:49:13
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I'm more accustomed to seeing that pawn grab with e3 in instead of Nf3.  I see that ECO has Black getting a clear advantage in the Nf3 version.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #64 - 05/25/11 at 14:56:56
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I played my first Grunfeld in a rated game last night and won a pretty miniature!  I won't post the game as it's not theoretically relevant at all, and I outrated my opponent by nearly 400 points, but it's still a good start.  At the very least I'll use the Grunfeld as a backup, maybe eventually as my main defense.  And so the honeymoon period begins...

One thing I noticed after the game is that I don't think the line 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bf4 0-0 6.cd (my opponent played 6.e3) Nxd5 7.Nxd5 Qxd5 8.Bxc7 is covered at all.  It's  probably just dubious and I was going to play 8...Nc6 9.e3 Bf5 with play along the c-file and against the c2-square.  One paragraph explaining how to get comp for the pawn would maybe have been nice, but honestly looking at it after the game I think Black gets good play with straightforward moves.
  
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Re: New Grünfeld Book: The Safest Grünfeld
Reply #63 - 05/24/11 at 21:43:21
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cunard64 wrote on 05/24/11 at 18:01:19:
I have just received a copy of 'The Safest Grunfeld' and am shocked to see that on page 4 'Bibliography' Jonathan Rowson's Understanding the Grunfeld' is NOT credited. 
If this means that the authors are unaware of Rowson's masterclass work then tred very carefully!
One example is on page 242 of TSG line E14 move 17.Bb5 is recomended.  Rowson shows an idea by GM Lalic 17.Rb5 with the idea of ...Ra5 and c4. This looks a very strong idea.

As I see from the same bibliography, the authors obviously learned to understand the Grünfeld from Botvinnik's book. That is not so shocking...
As to the "omission" on page 242, the idea of Rb5xa5 is analised in a separate line on page 241: 16.Rb5 b6. Here you (or Rowson?) suggest 17.Ba3?! while the authors mention the much more dangerous 17.Bb2. Anyway, in both positions Delchev's 17...Ba6 works pretty good. Can you supply more variations to your suggestion so we can understand your idea? Somehow the bishop does not look properly on a3...
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