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Reply #49 - 12/06/11 at 21:46:45
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Don't get me wrong. This thread is wonderful and I thank slates for bringing to my attention the iPad apps. I have an iPad as well and am waiting for an app that provides what I would like to do with the iPad (I have posted somewhere).

I also think it is good idea that "authors" (used in a very broad sense) post here and answer queries. No problems with that. (Like what is happening with IM Greet over at 1 e4... forum with his new book).

However, I think it is "rude" to come here and start comparing and "bagging" competitors. If any there is critical comparison to be done, it should be by punters (consumers). In the same way that book authors don't come here begin thrashing their competitors. I don't care if there is some "history" between smartchess" and e+chess. That should be raised and aired in some other forum.

If an "author" has a contribution to make it should be about his/her/their own products and the info should be enlightening. And please stop the "advertising" bit, ie spruiking up your product.
  

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Reply #48 - 12/06/11 at 19:51:16
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adh2050 wrote on 12/06/11 at 17:31:40:
I cannot be sure yet if the ability to enter your own variations will be ready in the next update but we have that on the wish list. This will not be in the Book view but it will be in the Game Collections which will be renamed My PGNs. It will be like your Chessbase.

You will be able to enter your Opening repertoire but with limited text annotations for now.

Both of these apps are in version 1.0. So there's a lot to come folks.



Whoaa! That sounds great  Cheesy
Andres, you have more or less an open field on the I-pad, with some competion.
But the features you describe is basically just what I want!

I would just like to play through games out of a real book (yes a thing made from trees, not from sand) with my ipad. I would like to save such a game with variations, so I can review it later.
  
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Reply #47 - 12/06/11 at 18:58:45
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adh2050 wrote on 12/06/11 at 17:31:40:
fling wrote on 12/06/11 at 10:00:45:
slates wrote on 12/05/11 at 22:46:22:
Hi Andres,

Yes, you are able to change the size of both the boards and the fonts within the app, as well as flipping the board and entering your own moves in the e+ chess app.
I'm not so sure about the Everyman app, can't remember right now.

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I haven't found a way change the size of the board or font, but you can flip the board. You can't enter moves either.


Hi Fling,
I examined it some more and I could not Flip the board on the iPhone but the button appears on the iPad.

You can change the font of the book text as well but it is NOT true that the board can be resized on either iPhone or iPad.

I wonder how much use the app got by the same users who claim these features to be existing. Yes, there is the option to resize the board but it is not functioning.

I am sure it will come in the next update. Usually, Apple does not approve these features that are not doing anything. It somehow escaped the review process at Apple. We removed a lot of features because they were not totally done and were not completely tested because of this restriction.

We have users complaining about the size of our board and our board is almost twice as big as the one in e+. In fact, we are increasing the size of the boards on the iPhone and iPad in the next update.

I cannot be sure yet if the ability to enter your own variations will be ready in the next update but we have that on the wish list. This will not be in the Book view but it will be in the Game Collections which will be renamed My PGNs. It will be like your Chessbase.

You will be able to enter your Opening repertoire but with limited text annotations for now.

Both of these apps are in version 1.0. So there's a lot to come folks.

For sure, in our next update the App will keep the text to linger until the games scores are played through or until the text no longer applies to the position. And we will introduce a new (fine-tuned) formatting scheme of text and moves so there is no doubt in the reader's mind that he is inside a Variation or inside the main game.

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Andy, I am using the Everyman app only on my iPhone (don't have an iPad, won't get one). I can't find a resize font or board. But there definitely is a flip board option. It is in the middle, right under the board, shown as two round arrows.
  
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Reply #46 - 12/06/11 at 18:40:43
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I only have e+ chess on my iPad, and yes, I definitely CAN resize the board, but note that I am talking about the board on the left, I.e. the one that appears in the text of the book. In here you can resize the board and font with no problem at all.
The board on the right where the pieces are moved is a fixed size, it seems, but can be flipped and can also be used to manually enter whatever moves you want, although it doesn't record these in any way, rather it serves the purpose of you being able to visualise alternative lines, although without engine assistance.
My use of the app is for reading chess books, more than it is for analysis with engines etc, so for me it is fine.
  
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fling wrote on 12/06/11 at 10:00:45:
slates wrote on 12/05/11 at 22:46:22:
Hi Andres,

Yes, you are able to change the size of both the boards and the fonts within the app, as well as flipping the board and entering your own moves in the e+ chess app.
I'm not so sure about the Everyman app, can't remember right now.

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I haven't found a way change the size of the board or font, but you can flip the board. You can't enter moves either.


Hi Fling,
I examined it some more and I could not Flip the board on the iPhone but the button appears on the iPad.

You can change the font of the book text as well but it is NOT true that the board can be resized on either iPhone or iPad.

I wonder how much use the app got by the same users who claim these features to be existing. Yes, there is the option to resize the board but it is not functioning.

I am sure it will come in the next update. Usually, Apple does not approve these features that are not doing anything. It somehow escaped the review process at Apple. We removed a lot of features because they were not totally done and were not completely tested because of this restriction.

We have users complaining about the size of our board and our board is almost twice as big as the one in e+. In fact, we are increasing the size of the boards on the iPhone and iPad in the next update.

I cannot be sure yet if the ability to enter your own variations will be ready in the next update but we have that on the wish list. This will not be in the Book view but it will be in the Game Collections which will be renamed My PGNs. It will be like your Chessbase.

You will be able to enter your Opening repertoire but with limited text annotations for now.

Both of these apps are in version 1.0. So there's a lot to come folks.

For sure, in our next update the App will keep the text to linger until the games scores are played through or until the text no longer applies to the position. And we will introduce a new (fine-tuned) formatting scheme of text and moves so there is no doubt in the reader's mind that he is inside a Variation or inside the main game.

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Reply #44 - 12/06/11 at 10:00:45
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slates wrote on 12/05/11 at 22:46:22:
Hi Andres,

Yes, you are able to change the size of both the boards and the fonts within the app, as well as flipping the board and entering your own moves in the e+ chess app.
I'm not so sure about the Everyman app, can't remember right now.

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I haven't found a way change the size of the board or font, but you can flip the board. You can't enter moves either.
  
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Reply #43 - 12/06/11 at 00:03:35
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slates wrote on 12/05/11 at 22:46:22:
Hi Andres,

Yes, you are able to change the size of both the boards and the fonts within the app, as well as flipping the board and entering your own moves in the e+ chess app.
I'm not so sure about the Everyman app, can't remember right now.

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Hi Slates,

Then, hats off to e+. They just have to get more content in there, which is, of course, a different obstacle to surmount. The limited inventory suggests the amount of work that is required to transform content into this format and platform.

We had to create tools in-house to automate the coding process.

e+ benefited from our experience for sure. There is no turning back now. It will be a matter of time before others follow. This will spur innovation and sleeker implementation schemes which in turn will benefit all of us who love this game so much.

I see more fun gathering on the horizon. It gives me great pleasure to have spurred everyone on this path.

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Reply #42 - 12/05/11 at 22:46:22
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Hi Andres,

Yes, you are able to change the size of both the boards and the fonts within the app, as well as flipping the board and entering your own moves in the e+ chess app.
I'm not so sure about the Everyman app, can't remember right now.

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Reply #41 - 12/05/11 at 19:14:47
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slates wrote on 12/04/11 at 08:36:24:
Hi Andres,
I understand that you are defensive of your product, but I can't revise my opinion for that reason alone.
The e+chess app is simply far better in my own opinion - yes, you can enter 'what if' moves, but no, you can't flip the board, something I'd like to see, for sure. 
I simply prefer the way it handles variations, which is similar to the Everyman app - both of these apps work for me, but as I said before, I do hope your app does well and is a success, but personally I much prefer these others and will pay their prices for the functionality they offer me.
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Hi Slates,

Point taken. I appreciate your sincerity. However, I do not defend bad ideas including mine. I am quick to acknowledge better ideas and even quicker to assimilate them. But sometimes, we have a tendency to exaggerate or embellish. I was responding to the "vastly superior" part of your comment. I do not think so, and of course we have a difference of opinion there.

I did not notice if you can enlarge the font of the text, can you?

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slates wrote on 12/04/11 at 20:57:13:
LeeRoth wrote on 12/04/11 at 17:30:10:
Slates, you can flip the board in the e-chess app.  It's one of the buttons under the board. Wink

Thanks LeeRoth, I overlooked that.


I overlooked that as well. My apologies to the creators of e+. And if only they will consider enlarging the board.

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Reply #39 - 12/05/11 at 19:04:00
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Konstriktor wrote on 12/04/11 at 19:09:25:
My preference is for THE e+ chess app.

@andres I appreciate that you check out this forum. But don't take the criticism too hard.
Your product has good sides, one of them is that you can play through your own moves when going through a variation.

One gripe with smartchess is that when you play through some moves the annotation  disappears. This makes the game hard to follow.
Another point which can be better is that you have to go through a lot of pages when going through a game. Combined with the point above is that you miss the big picture of the game.

What I personally would like to see is an app which is a mix between your smartchessapp and the everymanchessviewer. The everymanchessviewer has as a pro that you can see the entire game with annotations.
The e+app also has this possibility of seeing the whole game or text.
You cannot go through a variation if you want, but I don't find that too bothersome.

The ipad chess apps out there are still not perfect.
I would just like to see an app which
1.can read pgn with annotations and variations.
2. Allows you to add variations and annotations and save this in a file on your ipad.

If these two can be implemented in an app I think you will have a simple winner.



Yes, we are working on it. We appreciate various suggestions on this Forum. After all, we are for creating a high-utility product.

In the next update, you will get to see the relevant text just like in the book except that it will be formatted and presented to you in a much clearer way.

After all, you do not get to see the entire text of the book on one page.

It will be similar to your experience now in reading a page of a chess book. We will just make it tidy for you. As pointed out in my other post, it will keep the variation string on the screen and the comments in between while you step through the variation. If there is no prose, you will only see the game scores of the variation.

My only objection to the e+ scheme is that the board is way too small and I still have to sift through the embedded prose.

For me, the "chaos" is not addressed by the current scheme. It is the same objection that I have with Everyman's e-viewer. Otherwise, Everyman's eBooks when read in Chessbase is the way to go because you have access to a strong engine. And if you take away the advantage and ease of mobility in these devices (and of course content), we will have no need for these Apps.

Content (what you can consume in these apps) and facility of learning or ease of consumption are the factors that we should measure these Apps. The others are good to have but are just cosmetics.

And you hit it on target when you wrote about the utility of being able to enter your own variations and comments for consumption later. That is what we are striving to achieve.

For now (first stage), we are focusing on how best to consume existing chess content. The second stage is to enable the utility of creating your own content.

Keep the great ideas from coming. That is one reason I visit the Forum. I ought to frequent it some more.

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Reply #38 - 12/05/11 at 18:42:24
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Konstriktor wrote on 12/04/11 at 19:09:25:
My preference is for THE e+ chess app.

@andres I appreciate that you check out this forum. But don't take the criticism too hard.
Your product has good sides, one of them is that you can play through your own moves when going through a variation.

One gripe with smartchess is that when you play through some moves the annotation  disappears. This makes the game hard to follow.
Another point which can be better is that you have to go through a lot of pages when going through a game. Combined with the point above is that you miss the big picture of the game.

What I personally would like to see is an app which is a mix between your smartchessapp and the everymanchessviewer. The everymanchessviewer has as a pro that you can see the entire game with annotations.
The e+app also has this possibility of seeing the whole game or text.
You cannot go through a variation if you want, but I don't find that too bothersome.

The ipad chess apps out there are still not perfect.
I would just like to see an app which
1.can read pgn with annotations and variations.
2. Allows you to add variations and annotations and save this in a file on your ipad.

If these two can be implemented in an app I think you will have a simple winner.



Hi,

Good points. That is how we can work together to make a better app. Because of Slates previous comment, we are adding Flip Board in the next Update.

Also the following:
1. We will keep text to linger in the text screen window just like in the book as you play through the nested line.

2. The actual games of the game will be in bold just like in the book.

3. However, we will keep our approach of only showing the relevant text and not the entire book so the the burden of sifting through the embedded prose is removed from the user.

4. The only time a text is allowed to stay on the screen is when it is has relevant commentary to the a series of moves on that page.

5. With regards to the handling of pgn files, the games in the Games Collections is already in pgn format, which means we already have a stable pgn reader. We are adding Start Position, End Position and Autoplay in the next update. We are still working on recursive game annotations. We are almost there but not quite so to get it part of the update. It will just be a matter of time before most apps will be able to do it.

6. I am a consumer of this Apps too so I know what we all want. We will get there eventually.

7. Once we have a stronger engine, you will be able to call an analysis module in Book view.

But one thing is encouraging that Slates is willing to pay for functionality. I think most consumers would and it is a good thing.

Slates, I am not taking these criticisms "too hard." I am actually thankful for them. If you noticed, we changed the way we implement the nested lines largely because of your comment earlier. And we heartily agreed with you. Allowing certain texts or a nested line to linger while it is being played through is again a response to your comment.

While e+ has its strengths, we still believe that by adding the lingering text, our presentation scheme is by far the best approach when it comes to the enjoyment, delivery and consumption of chess content.

I very much welcome the arrival of e+ because it is vindicating my vision. If you only know the untold story behind it and SmartChess!, you will see my point. It will someday become part of chess lore. For now, I am happy that it is out there and chess content consumers have now more choices.

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Reply #37 - 12/04/11 at 22:55:32
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adh2050 wrote on 12/04/11 at 02:49:15:
slates wrote on 12/02/11 at 07:42:39:
Late for work, so just time for a quick couple of mentions, prompted by your post  - the Chess Tiger app is pretty good for entering variations, as well as being a lot of fun to play as an engine in its own right and although expensive and iPhone native right now is apparently due out in universal iPad enhanced form shortly.....
Also, I found an app called e+chess recently which is superb for playing through chess books on the iPad, it's vastly superior, in my opinion, to Smartchess, which failed to live up to its promise. 
It comes with Capablanca book free and has options to buy other titles, first one I got was Beim's strategy book, I believe Silman's endgame and Reassess 4 are on their way to the app too.


Hi Slates,

If an app with a small and unresponsive (dead) board because it cannot accept what-if moves is described as "vastly superior" to SmartChess as a matter of opinion, then I think it is an opinion that will not worry me a bit.

I am sure every app to its credit provides for some utility and meets the needs of content consumers but to call it vastly superior (based on what is not clear), is quite a stretch.

If I remember it right, you were looking for a Flip board option in an App, were you not?

Chess Fundamentals is free but the other titles are a bit pricey, don't you think?

It has good graphics for sure.

And if you enjoy reading through a maze of variations and nested lines in variations while having to sift through embedded prose then it is the perfect app for you.

Andres


The e+ chess app board isn't dead, you can do what if moves there too, but isn't drag and drop

I have to admit I too prefer their format as you can see all the text at the same time, which better enables you to navigate your position in the game.

For future updates of the smart ches app it would be worth considering giving the user theoptn of either looking at the 'book' in your way or the more traditional full notation approach.

In any case I think there is still a lot of room for further developments before the ultimate app comes


  
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LeeRoth wrote on 12/04/11 at 17:30:10:
Slates, you can flip the board in the e-chess app.  It's one of the buttons under the board. Wink

Thanks LeeRoth, I overlooked that.
  
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Konstriktor wrote on 12/04/11 at 19:09:25:
If these two can be implemented in an app I think you will have a simple winner.



After testing most apps on my iPhone, I have come to realize that the winner (at least for me) most likely will be a tablet with Win 8.
  
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My preference is for THE e+ chess app.

@andres I appreciate that you check out this forum. But don't take the criticism too hard.
Your product has good sides, one of them is that you can play through your own moves when going through a variation.

One gripe with smartchess is that when you play through some moves the annotation  disappears. This makes the game hard to follow.
Another point which can be better is that you have to go through a lot of pages when going through a game. Combined with the point above is that you miss the big picture of the game.

What I personally would like to see is an app which is a mix between your smartchessapp and the everymanchessviewer. The everymanchessviewer has as a pro that you can see the entire game with annotations.
The e+app also has this possibility of seeing the whole game or text.
You cannot go through a variation if you want, but I don't find that too bothersome.

The ipad chess apps out there are still not perfect.
I would just like to see an app which
1.can read pgn with annotations and variations.
2. Allows you to add variations and annotations and save this in a file on your ipad.

If these two can be implemented in an app I think you will have a simple winner.

  
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Slates, you can flip the board in the e-chess app.  It's one of the buttons under the board. Wink
  
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Hi Andres,
I understand that you are defensive of your product, but I can't revise my opinion for that reason alone.
The e+chess app is simply far better in my own opinion - yes, you can enter 'what if' moves, but no, you can't flip the board, something I'd like to see, for sure. 
I simply prefer the way it handles variations, which is similar to the Everyman app - both of these apps work for me, but as I said before, I do hope your app does well and is a success, but personally I much prefer these others and will pay their prices for the functionality they offer me.
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slates wrote on 12/02/11 at 07:42:39:
Late for work, so just time for a quick couple of mentions, prompted by your post  - the Chess Tiger app is pretty good for entering variations, as well as being a lot of fun to play as an engine in its own right and although expensive and iPhone native right now is apparently due out in universal iPad enhanced form shortly.....
Also, I found an app called e+chess recently which is superb for playing through chess books on the iPad, it's vastly superior, in my opinion, to Smartchess, which failed to live up to its promise. 
It comes with Capablanca book free and has options to buy other titles, first one I got was Beim's strategy book, I believe Silman's endgame and Reassess 4 are on their way to the app too.


Hi Slates,

If an app with a small and unresponsive (dead) board because it cannot accept what-if moves is described as "vastly superior" to SmartChess as a matter of opinion, then I think it is an opinion that will not worry me a bit.

I am sure every app to its credit provides for some utility and meets the needs of content consumers but to call it vastly superior (based on what is not clear), is quite a stretch.

If I remember it right, you were looking for a Flip board option in an App, were you not?

Chess Fundamentals is free but the other titles are a bit pricey, don't you think?

It has good graphics for sure.

And if you enjoy reading through a maze of variations and nested lines in variations while having to sift through embedded prose then it is the perfect app for you.

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Yeah e+ is a nice app.  Chess tiger from my side not so good,  but if a new iPad version is coming that might be quite cool
  
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Thanks Slates.  The e-chess app is impressive.
  
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Late for work, so just time for a quick couple of mentions, prompted by your post  - the Chess Tiger app is pretty good for entering variations, as well as being a lot of fun to play as an engine in its own right and although expensive and iPhone native right now is apparently due out in universal iPad enhanced form shortly.....
Also, I found an app called e+chess recently which is superb for playing through chess books on the iPad, it's vastly superior, in my opinion, to Smartchess, which failed to live up to its promise. 
It comes with Capablanca book free and has options to buy other titles, first one I got was Beim's strategy book, I believe Silman's endgame and Reassess 4 are on their way to the app too.
  
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Chess partner has just been released.

The good news is that it addresses one of my key 'wants' - that being the ability to see the board, notation, engine and make variations.

Still some room for improvement- I haven't found a way to promote variations, you don't seem to be able to enter text or assesments, and you seem to only be able to import Pgn files through iTunes (as a result I haven't been able to test playing with an annotated game).

Anyway for the price definitely worth a look, and a significant step forward.
  
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aidin wrote on 09/09/11 at 19:39:02:


Does anyoneknow if Hiarcs supports adding variations yourself and saving that? I have just got my new iPad and as of yet i am not overly impressed by the chess apps available.

The one on my android phone worked better (scid and stockfish. Stockfish on android actually allowes you to enter variations. The stockfish on the iPad does not Sad )
  
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So there is no way to consume cbh files on the iPad at the moment?
  
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Maybe it's just economics; more demand for Pocket Fritz as it's more difficult to smuggle your iPad into the toilet surreptitiously  Smiley
  

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I can understand what fling says. it's so frustrating .since I have both ( Ipad 2 and Pocket fritz 4) , I can relate. I have tons of Cbv and Cbh files on my thin Pocket pc always in my shirt pocket , and Pf4 can handle them extremely well ! Suppose you are in a waiting room or something like that and then suddenly you find that what a tactical blunder or strategical flaw  Capablanca has made in 19?? game vs another world champion ! that 's great . a critical moment or even a new Novelty in the games of new  millenium players ! ....and just by a thin and 4.5" Pocket Pc which is always in your pocket ! thank to technology....

in the Recent famouse game : Grischuk vs  Polgar , and examining the post mortem analysis by GM Gravias , I could see that my thin PPC can find out almost all of the related
Novelties ! it's a great feeling....  Cool

Meanwhile  When I'm analysing my own games for i. e rapid online games , I can't pin point my blind spots and complete evaluation of my thought process  via relying on Ipad ( while I have plenty of good chess apps on it ) Sad....so I need to go back to that little handy device !

yes , I can relate.
  
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Blunderer wrote on 09/21/11 at 07:18:30:
fling wrote on 09/13/11 at 09:01:06:
slates wrote on 09/13/11 at 06:27:13:
Hiarcs for ipad is now out and I suggest that any ipad owner immediately invests in it.
What with that and the ICC app, which is vastly more useable than it was on the iphone, naturally, the ipad is my favourite place for chess now.



But again, it doesn't read CBH-files or Chessbase videos, right?
If so, my laptop will remain my favourite place for chess.


I just want an app which can compete with Pocket Fritz which i used to use on my old HP iPAQ 10 years ago.

- Ability to read PGN which includes commentary and variations
- Ability to enter in new variations & save
- An engine
- Ability to see the board and the notation at the same time

It would be nice if the capability of pocket fritz to show chessbase video files could also be used.


I agree, this is pretty much what I would need as well, BUT:

It is hard to convert CBH-files to PGN entirely, that is why e.g. Everyman produces both files.

If you could show CB-videos, you probably could show CBH-files as well, right?

I still can't believe Chessbase doesn't spend any resources on this.
  
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fling wrote on 09/13/11 at 09:01:06:
slates wrote on 09/13/11 at 06:27:13:
Hiarcs for ipad is now out and I suggest that any ipad owner immediately invests in it.
What with that and the ICC app, which is vastly more useable than it was on the iphone, naturally, the ipad is my favourite place for chess now.



But again, it doesn't read CBH-files or Chessbase videos, right?
If so, my laptop will remain my favourite place for chess.


I just want an app which can compete with Pocket Fritz which i used to use on my old HP iPAQ 10 years ago.

- Ability to read PGN which includes commentary and variations
- Ability to enter in new variations & save
- An engine
- Ability to see the board and the notation at the same time

It would be nice if the capability of pocket fritz to show chessbase video files could also be used.
  
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people are willing to pay extra money for iPads compared to normal tablets, but people are unwilling to pay a single dime for chess software, therefore noone really puts effort in developing good chess software ...
which results in no good chess software being available ... the only thing you can do is to hope for an idealist out there who does this job for free ...
  
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Thx, Antillian. I knew 95% couldn't be correct, unless it was some specific niche that was being reported.

Still, 68% control of the total tablet market by a single product family is amazing.
  
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/10/11 at 01:30:47:
Consumer Reports and consumers seem to agree: I recently heard that Apple controls ~95% of the tablet market and Consumer Reports rated the I-Pads head and shoulders above the next best competition (which I think was indeed the Samsung).


Not quite. Ipad's market share is more like 68%, still dominant nonetheless.
  

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Icc app is very good except for blitz one I find I lose about 2-3 seconds a move even trying to move instantly, but otherwise I am impressed by all the features and you can see the videos that icc do.
And you have to pay the subscription.
  
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Hiarcs for ipad is now out and I suggest that any ipad owner immediately invests in it.
What with that and the ICC app, which is vastly more useable than it was on the iphone, naturally, the ipad is my favourite place for chess now.



But again, it doesn't read CBH-files or Chessbase videos, right?
If so, my laptop will remain my favourite place for chess.
  
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Hiarcs for ipad is now out and I suggest that any ipad owner immediately invests in it.
What with that and the ICC app, which is vastly more useable than it was on the iphone, naturally, the ipad is my favourite place for chess now.

  
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Consumer Reports and consumers seem to agree: I recently heard that Apple controls ~95% of the tablet market and Consumer Reports rated the I-Pads head and shoulders above the next best competition (which I think was indeed the Samsung).

I don't currently own a tablet, but if I was going to buy one in the next 12 months or so I'm pretty sure it would be made by Apple. We'll see what sort of market share Apple has in a year though.
  
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Willempie wrote on 09/09/11 at 20:51:10:
I hate apples Wink

Seriously though, I dont like them. More interested in the Samsung one.


I really liked it too, but Apple did not!

I am don't care too much for my Iphone, but the Ipad looks like the best tablet option right now. However, I don't want just a bigger Iphone.
  
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The iPad doesn't yet do enough to justify its purchase (though we have 3 of them in my household  Grin), but they are "cool" and Apple Apps are taking over.  As I've posted before, it's high time for chess publishers to get with the program and bring their products into the 21st century (you listening New in Chess, Gambit and Quality Chess?  Chessbase too, but to a lesser degree).  Getting off the pedestal now.
  
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I hate apples Wink

Seriously though, I dont like them. More interested in the Samsung one.
  

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right !
In fact I wonder why Chessbase doesn't cooperate with the world widest app market ! strange !
  
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Looks interesting, but it seems that I have to stick to a laptop to be able to watch the videos and CBH-files Sad
  
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Generally, chess apps for iPad are pretty disappointing IMO...there's so much untapped potential..
  

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It's time Chessbase updated itself to the Apple world; everyone in my family has an Apple laptop (not to mention iPhones, iPads, iPods, etc.) except me who has a Dell because most chess software does not run on Mac OS.  I have many Everyman eBooks but the older ones are all cbv so they don't run on Mac OS (the new ones are released as cbv and pgn).
  
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[quote author=7D524858535E496F5A57425A59593B0 link=1302818533/1#1 date=1302888215]  I know I am tempted to pick it up, but the only problem is I believe it only does PGN and not CBV.


At least on Iphone, it only does PGN, unfortunately.

I been meaning to buy a tablet, but am not sure. Is there any app for a tablet, be it Ipad or any other, that can display CBH-files? Also, same question for the Chessbase videos? If not, I'll skip a tablet for now.
  
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Very interesting , I would be fascinated to hear of what other Ipad chess apps there are- I would like to be able to play my chess base DVDs on it and have some sort of database.
What sort of apps to play on ICC or Playchess are available?

There is the Everyman digital reader for ebooks on it.  I know I am tempted to pick it up, but the only problem is I believe it only does PGN and not CBV.
  
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Very interesting , I would be fascinated to hear of what other Ipad chess apps there are-iPad2case
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What sort of apps to play on ICC or Playchess are available?


I tested stockfish (last Version: Stockfish for iOS 2.4, 2011-03-20) on it and it was amazingly fast and fluid with an elo estimate near 2950 !  almost equal to Fritz 12 on an average dual core PC. A good start ! let's see what have the old  Shredder to say ?!
  
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There are almost 50-60 chess apps on ipad app store . for playing online also there are some out there. last night I downloaded a free app called "ichess pro " that have FIcs and Icc client. 
"chess for ICC HD" is another choice.
"chessbase online " is what you need .
also" Chess.com " have a good app that you can play online or vs computer ( in 10 levels ). it has a daily tactic training feature too , rating your tactic ability continuouesly.
There is an app called "chess-wise" that have a huge online database and can search online for the latest games and tournements , downloading them instantly and replay each game for you.
About the chessbase and Dvd issue '  i'm not sure  completely but i met an application adopted for chessbase too.There exists a "chessbase lite" application also . An app called "Wyse " can connect you remotely to your windows pc and all your chessbase database and engines.
"Tchess pro"  and " shredder chess" also have strong and fascinating features . Stockfish has a useful feature called "remote engine " which you can connect to your home Pc or database online and utilize them on an "ipad-2" format properly.

Another possibility with an ipad for chess- lovers is "ibooks" , which you can purchase some good chess books via it and study them or chess PDfs easily when and where ever you are.
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Very interesting , I would be fascinated to hear of what other Ipad chess apps there are- I would like to be able to play my chess base DVDs on it and have some sort of database.
What sort of apps to play on ICC or Playchess are available?
  
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After some while , finally the magic tablet has been released and since I'm a chess- nut  , instantly after unboxing I checked out some chess applications on it. As you know this new tablet has been armed with a breakthrough strong dual core A5 chip , so it can reach to 19-20 plies in  analysing a normal middle game position at only 50 seconds which may be a new mile stone in such ultraportable and handy devices .
I tested stockfish (last Version: Stockfish for iOS 2.4, 2011-03-20) on it and it was amazingly fast and fluid with an elo estimate near 2950 !  almost equal to Fritz 12 on an average dual core PC. A good start ! let's see what have the old  Shredder to say ?! Grin
  
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