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Re: 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 Move order issues
Reply #6 - 05/16/11 at 20:57:04
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Re: 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 Move order issues
Reply #5 - 05/05/11 at 21:05:19
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I think the real issue with the Smith Morra setup from an early g6 position is that Black has to work hard to keep finding useful moves whereas White seems to be able to delay the recapture on d4 with Bc4 etc.
  

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Re: 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 Move order issues
Reply #4 - 05/03/11 at 13:43:21
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Highfive wrote on 05/03/11 at 05:09:58:
The finegold defense does involve an a6 , which I usually play around move 8.  The  O ' Kelly seems like an interesting choice;  Thanks for the idea.   Something which your idea brought up I am now thinking about  what if they employ the move order

1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. c3?

What then?



If you meet 3.c3 with 3...Bg7 4.d4 cd4 5.cd4 d5, then simply 4...Bg7 is the most practical option, with a direct transposition.

If you meet 3.c3 with 3...d5 4.ed5 Qd5 then 4...d5 could be considered, though I'm not sure if 5.Qd4 or 5.e5 are dangerous then.

Otherwise MNb's suggestion is pretty easy to play.
  

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Re: 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 Move order issues
Reply #3 - 05/03/11 at 13:05:29
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You might consider 4...d3. The Knight on f3 deprives White of a few dangerous options.
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Re: 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 Move order issues
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The finegold defense does involve an a6 , which I usually play around move 8.  The  O ' Kelly seems like an interesting choice;  Thanks for the idea.   Something which your idea brought up I am now thinking about  what if they employ the move order

1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. c3?

What then?

  
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Re: 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 Move order issues
Reply #1 - 05/01/11 at 20:48:36
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The Finegold defence to the Morra involves an early ...a6, doesn't it?

If so, you can play 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 a6! and now 4.Nxd4 e5 transposes to the O'Kelly Sicilian, and a line where Black is already at least equal. Compared to the Sveshnikov or Kalashnikov White doesn't have b5 for the knight. This was covered in Dangerous Weapons: The Sicilian a.o.

For this reason the O'Kelly 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6 is the one second move where 3.d4 is never recommeded (unless White transposes to the Morra). Every repertoire book I've seen gives 3.c4 or 3.c3 instead.
  

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1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 Move order issues
05/01/11 at 20:36:05
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1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Nf3 

If white plays both the open sicilian and the morra, can he freely choose the one or the other no matter black's reply on move 3?  Is there some drawback to this move order?

I play the accelerated dragon against the open but against the SM gambit I adopt a schevenigen (or however you spell it) style setup  and play the fine gold defense. 
But this move order is worrying me because if I play 3. ..Nc6 or 3....g6 then my opponent can play 4. c3 going into the gambit when I don't know what I'm doing. 
Otherwise if I try to play d6 or e6 then he can continue Nxd4 and I am not going to be playing the accelerated anymore. 

Any ideas?
  
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