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Re: nuances of 3_d5 in the Symmetrical (1.c4 c5,2_Nf6)
Reply #1 - 05/06/11 at 08:26:13
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HoemberChess wrote on 05/05/11 at 11:36:37:
Hi!

I am only getting acquainted with the defences, I still somehow find it more difficult to be on the Black side of the English Hedgehog than the position which arises after the Sicilian Kan 5.c4 Nf6 6.Nc3 Qc7 7.a3 b6 8.Be3 Bb7 9.f3 d6 etc, another move-order through which I defend hedgehog-type positions as the second player.

So, I am getting interested in the Symmetrical English (1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c5) after
- 3.g3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 etc (instead of 3..b6)
- 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 etc (instead of 3..e6) OR
- 2.Nc3 c5 3.g3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.Bg2 etc (instead of 3..e6)
which could serve as a temporary substitute for the English Hedgehog until I know enough about those difficult positions...

What is the reputation of these three variations?


These are all variants of the Rubinstein system in the symetrical English. In general it is considered quite sound and has been used by many strong players throughout history to get winning chances with black. It is really an attempt to reach a reversed Maroczy bind in the sicilian dragon, but white has several ways to avoid this. After 1.c4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 white can, besides 5.g3 which is possibly the most common, play 5.e4 and 5.d4 of which the former leads to original play and the latter often transposes to other openings (Grünfeld, Semi-Tarrasch).
If white does play 5.g3 black can chose between a kingside fianchetto and an ambitious attempt to conquer space with 5...Nc6 6.Bg2 Nc7 7.0-0 e5.
The 2 other move-orders are likely to reach the same positions, but white will not have the opportunity to play with the early central actions since he/she already is committed to g2-g3.
  
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nuances of 3_d5 in the Symmetrical (1.c4 c5,2_Nf6)
05/05/11 at 11:36:37
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Hi!

I am only getting acquainted with the defences, I still somehow find it more difficult to be on the Black side of the English Hedgehog than the position which arises after the Sicilian Kan 5.c4 Nf6 6.Nc3 Qc7 7.a3 b6 8.Be3 Bb7 9.f3 d6 etc, another move-order through which I defend hedgehog-type positions as the second player.

So, I am getting interested in the Symmetrical English (1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c5) after
- 3.g3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 etc (instead of 3..b6)
- 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 etc (instead of 3..e6) OR
- 2.Nc3 c5 3.g3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.Bg2 etc (instead of 3..e6)
which could serve as a temporary substitute for the English Hedgehog until I know enough about those difficult positions...

What is the reputation of these three variations?
  

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*W 1d4) Torre/Barry/Pirc/Philidor/ early _d5:early c4(QGD/Slav/QGD/etc)
*B) 1e4:e6 [+1_c5 2Nf3 a6]| 1d4:e6 2c4 Bb4+ BID/pseudoNID [+1_Nf6 NID]| 1c4:c5,_Nc6,_e5,_g6| 1Nf3:c5
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