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Re: Tactical endgame players
Reply #5 - 05/28/11 at 11:19:28
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I remember reading somewhere that Karpov was a calculating genius and that because he was so good at calculation, he wouldn't go into attacking lines that required a misstep by his opponent to gain an advantage, and that a lot of the greatest calculators were actually masters of defense. Well that and Karpov has always been known as a master of the endgame.
  

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Re: Tactical endgame players
Reply #4 - 05/28/11 at 07:10:00
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Iirc Karoly writes in Endgame Virtuoso or says in an interview he was astonished by going through Karpov's endgames how often Karpov worked with mate threats.

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Re: Tactical endgame players
Reply #3 - 05/28/11 at 00:57:31
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Well, Karpov is known as a master of positional squeeze, isn't he?

From the various examples I've seen in the books I had the impression that Kasparov was a more tactical endgame player than Karpov. Maybe that's just an unfounded bias though?
  

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Re: Tactical endgame players
Reply #2 - 05/28/11 at 00:05:09
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Karpov and Capablanca are missing. Also look at Timman's endgames.
  

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Re: Tactical endgame players
Reply #1 - 05/19/11 at 13:30:48
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The first name that springs to mind here is John Nunn, who puts a real lot of emphasis on tactics in the endings in his books - he even wrote a whole book about it (tactical chess endings). Nunn is an excellent tactician and his coverage of tactics in the endings is amazing and better than anyone else. I've got his recent books "Nunns chess endings" and they're amazing.

Another name is Karpov which you might have put in the wrong category? His endings are very tactical and he won loads of them through better calculation.
  
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Tactical endgame players
05/16/11 at 02:25:12
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I've been thinking about the concept of different endgame "styles" lately. Most well-known endgame greats (Smyslov, Fischer, Karpov, Kramnik, Andersson etc.) are known for slowly and surely improving their positions, and winning by "understanding" the position better (of course in reality there is still lots of calculation involved!).

But there's a sharper way of playing the endgame, with lots of tactics, often unbalanced material, dangerous passed pawns on both sides and so on. Players who often solve their endgames tactically include:

- Shirov (claims his great calculation skills are even more of a strength in the endgame than in attack)
- Kasparov
- Alekhine
- Tal
- Azmaiparashvili (his tactical endgame style was pointed out in one of the Beliavsky/Mikhalchishin endgame books)
- Mark Hebden (a strange choice maybe. I played through many of his games as a junior, and was struck by how often he would just continue playing sharply with constant threats, even after a queen exchange).

- Is there anything to this distinction between "positional" and "tactical" endgame players? And if so, could it be that the endgame skills of i.e. Shirov or Kasparov are underestimated, because their endgames seem more random and illogical to the average player? 

- Or, is the difference just an artifact of the openings and middlegames they play?

- Any other well-known names that fit on this list?
  

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